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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    Did you expect to get some Uralic and Uzbek result as well? Do you know if they even have those Uralic groups within RF?
    Yeah expected atleast some minor %.
    They do have it:
    Abazin (Caucasus)
    Adyghe (Caucasus)
    Balkar (Caucasus)
    Buryat (Siberia)
    Chukchi
    Daur
    Dhurwa
    Dolgan
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    Hazara
    Kabardin
    Kargopol (Russian)
    Kazakh
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    Mordovian (Russia)
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    Nganasan (Siberia)
    Nogai (Russia)
    North-Ossetian
    Ossetian (Caucasus)
    Russian- (Smolensk, Volga, etc)
    Selkup (Siberia)
    Shors (Russia)
    Siberian
    Stalskoe (Russia)
    Tabassaran (Dagestan)
    Tajik
    Tatar
    Turkmen
    Tuva
    Uygur
    Uzbek
    Uzbek Jewish
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    Quote Originally Posted by rober_tce View Post
    I ordered a test at Wednesday night. I still haven't my results...
    I also ordered Wednesday night and am waiting. However, the website didn't load for me after payment (got an "element could not be loaded" error) so I needed to email them. I also let them know the upload page failed to load, so hopefully it gets fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buxoro View Post
    Yeah expected atleast some minor %.
    They do have it:
    Abazin (Caucasus)
    Adyghe (Caucasus)
    Balkar (Caucasus)
    Buryat (Siberia)
    Chukchi
    Daur
    Dhurwa
    Dolgan
    Erzya
    Evenki
    Evens
    Hazara
    Kabardin
    Kargopol (Russian)
    Kazakh
    Ket
    Koryak
    Kumyk
    Kyrgyz
    Lezgin
    Mari (Russia)
    Mordovian (Russia)
    Nenet
    Nganasan (Siberia)
    Nogai (Russia)
    North-Ossetian
    Ossetian (Caucasus)
    Russian- (Smolensk, Volga, etc)
    Selkup (Siberia)
    Shors (Russia)
    Siberian
    Stalskoe (Russia)
    Tabassaran (Dagestan)
    Tajik
    Tatar
    Turkmen
    Tuva
    Uygur
    Uzbek
    Uzbek Jewish
    Yakut
    Yukagir
    Interesting that they have Mordovian twice. They have Erzya and Mordovian. The probably don't know that Erzya are Mordovians. Or maybe their "Mordovian" is Moksha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    Interesting that they have Mordovian twice. They have Erzya and Mordovian. The probably don't know that Erzya are Mordovians. Or maybe their "Mordovian" is Moksha.
    Yeah and I didn’t score it despite being 12.5% Mordovian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    How accurate are the regions they gave you? Was anything at all correct?
    As for the paternal side - 25% Iranian (Khorasan) seems legitimate (thats also what i score on g25 - ~~25% Mazandarani or ~~25% IRN Ganj Dareh in case of ancients), since my father is Bukharan. That where 23andMe fails - they didnt detect iranian ancestry despite me having persian matches. Crimean tatar part is not identified by them. But certainty of crimean part is unclear tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buxoro View Post
    Yeah expected atleast some minor %.
    They do have it:
    Abazin (Caucasus)
    Adyghe (Caucasus)
    Balkar (Caucasus)
    Buryat (Siberia)
    Chukchi
    Daur
    Dhurwa
    Dolgan
    Erzya
    Evenki
    Evens
    Hazara
    Kabardin
    Kargopol (Russian)
    Kazakh
    Ket
    Koryak
    Kumyk
    Kyrgyz
    Lezgin
    Mari (Russia)
    Mordovian (Russia)
    Nenet
    Nganasan (Siberia)
    Nogai (Russia)
    North-Ossetian
    Ossetian (Caucasus)
    Russian- (Smolensk, Volga, etc)
    Selkup (Siberia)
    Shors (Russia)
    Siberian
    Stalskoe (Russia)
    Tabassaran (Dagestan)
    Tajik
    Tatar
    Turkmen
    Tuva
    Uygur
    Uzbek
    Uzbek Jewish
    Yakut
    Yukagir
    that! is an expansive group/list just from the Ural (arctic to the Caspian Sea) region! I wonder how expansive of a list they have for other regions....

    I just looked at their Germany reference regions: German - Saxony, Bavaria, Hesse, northern, southern, eastern, western. My German ancestry is supposedly from Bremen and to a lesser extent Hamburg which are both in Lower Saxony, a region they don't reference. My Ethnogenes results did included a sprinkling of Dutch/Danish groups which could "pull" the German they gave me toward Lower Saxony. To this day, with as much dissatisfaction that I've read about 23/me compared to Ancestry et al. it [23/me] is the only calculator model to give me Lower Saxony for my German, and they did it exclusively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    that! is an expansive group/list just from the Ural region! I wonder how expansive of a list they have for other regions....

    I just looked at their Germany reference regions: German - Saxony, Bavaria, Hesse, northern, southern, eastern, western. My German ancestry is supposedly from Bremen and to a lesser extent Hamburg which are both in Lower Saxony, a region they don't reference. My Ethnogenes results did included a sprinkling of Dutch/Danish groups which could "pull" the German they gave me toward Lower Saxony. To this day, with as much dissatisfaction that I've read about 23/me compared to Ancestry et al. it [23/me] is the only calculator model to give me Lower Saxony for my German, and they did it exclusively.
    No, that is a list of peoples that happened to be in russian federation.
    From this list Uralic are only Erzya, Mordvin (also includes Erzya) and Mari. Arguably you could include Kargopol russians as assimilated Uralic people.

    Uralic people missing in the list: Udmurt, Karelians, Ingrians, Votes, Veps, Komi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    No, that is a list of peoples that happened to be in russian federation.
    From this list Uralic are only Erzya, Mordvin (also includes Erzya) and Mari. Arguably you could include Kargopol russians as assimilated Uralic people.

    Uralic people missing in the list: Udmurt, Karelians, Ingrians, Votes, Veps, Komi
    I do not know in the slightest all the sub groups for the region, if I came across that way I apologize. However, the Ural region extends from the Arctic to the Caspian Sea, that is a large expanse of land than can include Siberian type folks as well as those with middle eastern leanings. if that is incorrect also I hope you can forgive that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    I do not know in the slightest all the sub groups for the region, if I came across that way I apologize. However, the Ural region extends from the Arctic to the Caspian Sea, that is a large expanse of land than can include Siberian type folks as well as those with middle eastern leanings. if that is incorrect also I hope you can forgive that too.
    Ural region is a home to many peoples, but when talking about ethnicity Uralic and Finno-Ugric a pretty much synonymous (Samoyedic are more often referred separately). Rest of the peoples are referred to by their respective language groups as well. Middle eastern leaning are Tatars, although this leaning is mostly religious/cultural rather than genetic. They are more East Asian leaning genetically (pre-middle-east Turkic admixture plus Uralic substrate)
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvspidrs View Post
    I also ordered Wednesday night and am waiting. However, the website didn't load for me after payment (got an "element could not be loaded" error) so I needed to email them. I also let them know the upload page failed to load, so hopefully it gets fixed.
    Similar situation here.

    I ordered Thursday, and had a problem with the raw data upload, so I sent through email.

    I asked them to confirm that the payment and raw data were correctly received, to no response so far.

    I understand it has only been a few days, and that they must be busy, but it would be nice to get a confirmation, just so I know I am not waiting in vain.

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