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    Global25 - New Balkans K5 Modern Calculator

    And here my first attempt at a calculator. Don't forget, i need your feedback and comments in order to improve myself and this calculator.


    Components:

    -Western Balkans
    -Eastern Balkans
    -Balkanic-Aegean
    -Turkic
    -Caucasia

    Target: Obviously Balkanites, Greeks, Romanians and Turks. Especially good for mixed people who in search of his/her ethnic breakdown.

    Some results:

    I used nMonte3 and scaledcoordinates.

    Bosnian

    [1] "distance%=1.4175"

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    Western_Balkans,86
    Eastern_Balkans,13
    Turkic,1


    50% Thracian Greek - 50% Pontic Greek:

    [1] "distance%=1.726"

    dosas

    Balkanic-Aegean,73
    Caucasian,26
    Turkic,1


    Ukrainian: (Europeans probably will get 100% Western Balkans.)

    Mykhailo

    Western_Balkans,99.8
    Turkic,0.2


    Balkan Turk:

    [1] "distance%=2.2418"

    zuzu14

    Balkanic-Aegean,68.4
    Turkic,14.6
    Eastern_Balkans,12.8
    Caucasian,4.2


    Me:

    [1] "distance%=2.4887"


    Kaspias

    Eastern_Balkans,70.2
    Turkic,23.8
    Balkanic-Aegean,6



    I was thinking to extend this calculator to all over Eurasia. Then i tested it with current version, i got reasonable results in every run. So i change my mind and i want to share this version too as a specific Balkan calculator.
    Last edited by Kaspias; 12-07-2018 at 03:46 PM.

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    Looks promising but there seems to be a lot going on with your Balkan components. Too many similar populations could potentially skew the results, I would try something like this:

    Polish = Slavic
    Albanian = Balkan
    Greek Crete = Aegean
    Georgian Imer = Caucasian
    Turkmen = Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    Looks promising but there seems to be a lot going on with your Balkan components. Too many similar populations could potentially skew the results, I would try something like this:

    Polish = Slavic
    Albanian = Balkan
    Greek Crete = Aegean
    Georgian Imer = Caucasian
    Turkmen = Turkic
    My current components:

    Western Balkans: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro
    Eastern Balkans: Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania
    Balkanic-Aegean: Albania, Greece(Mainland)
    Turkic: Turkmen, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Uyghur, Kazakh, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia
    Caucasian: Georgian Imer

    Your suggestion also looks good for determining broad admixtures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    My current components:

    Western Balkans: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro
    Eastern Balkans: Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania
    Balkanic-Aegean: Albania, Greece(Mainland)
    Turkic: Turkmen, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Uyghur, Kazakh, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia
    Caucasian: Georgian Imer

    Your suggestion also looks good for determining broad admixtures.
    That selection is definitely going to lead to over-fitting. You only need a single ethnic group per component, preferably ones that do not overlap on the PCA.

    Also, could you please reply to my PM when you have the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTG View Post
    That selection is definitely going to lead to over-fitting. You only need a single ethnic group per component, preferably ones that do not overlap on the PCA.

    Also, could you please reply to my PM when you have the time.
    Thank you for your comment, i will check results with more samples. Then probably i'm going to update it.

    I replied.

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    Too accurate for my results. Good job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    .....................
    Could you give mine a run if its no trouble? Thanks in advance.

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    Dibran_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

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    Dibran,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Could you give mine a run if its no trouble? Thanks in advance.

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    Dibran_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

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    Dibran,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017
    [1] "distance%=2.4814"


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    Balkanic-Aegean 86.2
    Eastern Balkans 13.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    [1] "distance%=2.4814"


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    Thank you so much!

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    Could you run mine as well?

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    Romani_Ashkenazi_scaled,0.118376,0.140143,0.010936 ,-0.011305,0.027082,-0.008088,0.00094,-0.001846,0.000818,0.012574,0.001137,0.004646,-0.013082,-0.004954,-0.000407,0.019888,0.018775,-0.006334,0.000251,0.003252,-0.002745,0.002226,-0.000493,0.009399,0.003832

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    Romani_Ashkenazi,0.0104,0.0138,0.0029,-0.0035,0.0088,-0.0029,0.0004,-0.0008,0.0004,0.0069,0.0007,0.0031,-0.0088,-0.0036,-0.0003,0.015,0.0144,-0.005,0.0002,0.0026,-0.0022,0.0018,-0.0004,0.0078,0.0032

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