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Thread: Who have more genuine "Arab" ancestry -- Lebanese, or Tunisians/Algerians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingofPhoenicia001 View Post
    I found a kit with the surname Maalouf. That’s a know Ghassinid family, I believe. 2nd result in mixed mode could be that ancient ancestry?

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 49.11
    2 West_Asian 18.32
    3 Red_Sea 12.94
    4 West_Med 11.23
    5 Atlantic 4.68
    6 Southeast_Asian 1.24
    7 Eastern_Euro 1.09
    8 South_Asian 0.98
    9 Baltic 0.25
    10 Northeast_African 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Lebanese_Christian 3.48
    2 Samaritan 5.12
    3 Lebanese_Druze 5.93
    4 Palestinian 8.71
    5 Lebanese_Muslim 9.76
    6 Cyprian 10.56
    7 Syrian 10.7
    8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.95
    9 Jordanian 11.32
    10 Iranian_Jewish 12.21
    11 Tunisian_Jewish 14.5
    12 Assyrian 15.12
    13 Bedouin 15.54
    14 Libyan_Jewish 15.76
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.39
    16 Algerian_Jewish 18.37
    17 Italian_Jewish 18.76
    18 Georgian_Jewish 19.2
    19 Yemenite_Jewish 20.47
    20 Egyptian 20.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.6% Lebanese_Christian + 7.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.09
    2 96% Lebanese_Christian + 4% Saudi @ 3.34
    3 85.5% Lebanese_Christian + 14.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.38
    4 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% Palestinian @ 3.4
    5 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Dai @ 3.42
    6 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Vietnamese @ 3.42
    7 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% She @ 3.42
    8 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Lahu @ 3.43
    9 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Miaozu @ 3.43
    10 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Cambodian @ 3.43
    11 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Tujia @ 3.43
    12 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Malay @ 3.43
    13 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Yizu @ 3.44
    14 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Naxi @ 3.44
    15 99.4% Lebanese_Christian + 0.6% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 3.45
    16 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Japanese @ 3.45
    17 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Tu @ 3.46
    18 99.6% Lebanese_Christian + 0.4% Xibo @ 3.46
    19 99.6% Lebanese_Christian + 0.4% Hezhen @ 3.47
    20 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Samaritan @ 3.47
    Fascinating, the Y DNA the person is a male should be interesting too. I've never seen a Lebanese score Saudi on gedmatch. I think this person may have genuine Arabian ancestry.

    I got these for k15

    1 86.5% Lebanese_Christian + 13.5% Kurdish @ 3.05
    2 84.8% Lebanese_Christian + 15.2% Armenian @ 3.07
    3 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Balkar @ 3.13
    4 85.6% Lebanese_Christian + 14.4% Turkish @ 3.13
    5 86.9% Lebanese_Christian + 13.1% Azeri @ 3.13
    6 82.8% Lebanese_Christian + 17.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.13
    7 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Adygei @ 3.14
    8 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Lezgin @ 3.14
    9 93.1% Lebanese_Christian + 6.9% Ossetian @ 3.14
    10 93.1% Lebanese_Christian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 3.15
    11 93% Lebanese_Christian + 7% Kabardin @ 3.16
    12 93.4% Lebanese_Christian + 6.6% Chechen @ 3.17
    13 92.6% Lebanese_Christian + 7.4% Georgian @ 3.19
    14 92.2% Lebanese_Christian + 7.8% Kumyk @ 3.22
    15 93.4% Lebanese_Christian + 6.6% Tabassaran @ 3.22
    16 78.3% Lebanese_Christian + 21.7% Assyrian @ 3.25
    17 88% Lebanese_Christian + 12% Iranian @ 3.26
    18 93.6% Lebanese_Christian + 6.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.27
    19 93.8% Lebanese_Christian + 6.2% Balochi @ 3.28
    20 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% Kalash @ 3.29

    Also whats up with all of the East Asian percentages haha
    Last edited by Batroun; 12-27-2018 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batroun View Post
    Fascinating, the Y DNA the person is a male should be interesting too. I've never seen a Lebanese score Saudi on gedmatch. I think this person may have genuine Arabian ancestry.

    I got these for k15

    1 86.5% Lebanese_Christian + 13.5% Kurdish @ 3.05
    2 84.8% Lebanese_Christian + 15.2% Armenian @ 3.07
    3 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Balkar @ 3.13
    4 85.6% Lebanese_Christian + 14.4% Turkish @ 3.13
    5 86.9% Lebanese_Christian + 13.1% Azeri @ 3.13
    6 82.8% Lebanese_Christian + 17.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.13
    7 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Adygei @ 3.14
    8 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Lezgin @ 3.14
    9 93.1% Lebanese_Christian + 6.9% Ossetian @ 3.14
    10 93.1% Lebanese_Christian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 3.15
    11 93% Lebanese_Christian + 7% Kabardin @ 3.16
    12 93.4% Lebanese_Christian + 6.6% Chechen @ 3.17
    13 92.6% Lebanese_Christian + 7.4% Georgian @ 3.19
    14 92.2% Lebanese_Christian + 7.8% Kumyk @ 3.22
    15 93.4% Lebanese_Christian + 6.6% Tabassaran @ 3.22
    16 78.3% Lebanese_Christian + 21.7% Assyrian @ 3.25
    17 88% Lebanese_Christian + 12% Iranian @ 3.26
    18 93.6% Lebanese_Christian + 6.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.27
    19 93.8% Lebanese_Christian + 6.2% Balochi @ 3.28
    20 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% Kalash @ 3.29

    Also whats up with all of the East Asian percentages haha
    Yes, it seems like they have a small percent of Southeast Asian which is rare in Lebanese (might just be noise?) while South Asian at 1 or 2% would be normal. Thats probably why they get all those populations.

    Haven't seen Lebanese score Saudi either, so that may be saying something... but I am not sure if Ghassinid ancestry could be detected for everyone especially if it's been established for so long and spread around the community.
    78.1% Lebanese (Lebanon) + 21.9% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 3.3

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    Using Y-DNA, it's usually Lebanese

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    Pierre Zalloua and his team in some papers suggests that when Middle eastern males migrated into North Africa, they left their female companions behind ..
    In the paper "Recent Historical Migrations Have Shaped the Gene Pool of Arabs and Berbers in North Africa " ..They reported that Comparison of inferred ancestry proportions between the autosomes and X chromosome in Cluster M is indicative of sex-biased admixture with an overabundance of males with Middle Eastern(Syrian-like) ancestry and females with sub-Saharan African (Yoruba-like) ancestry.التقاط.PNG
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