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    *Everything I have read indicates J2b in South Asia is pre-Neolithic.

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    Exclamation Haplogroup J2-M172, Population Size Estimates.

    J2 Population Size Estimates

    The purpose of this document is a global understanding of the J2 Y-DNA population size. Haplogroup frequencies taken from Eupedia.com. (Frequencies at Eupedia are compiled from different sources, reliability and sample size varies.) Population data taken from wikipedia.com. (Mostly 2012 data, when not available data from older dates is used.) Calculations were made assuming a 50/50 male-female ratio in each country.

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Population Estimate. (36 Countries)

    Albania
    Total Population: 3.002.859
    Males: 1.501.430
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 292.779

    Austria
    Total Population: 8.219.743
    Males: 4.109.871
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 493.185

    Belarus
    Total Population: 9.643.566
    Males: 4.821.783
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 72.327

    Belgium
    Total Population: 10.438.353
    Males: 5.219.177
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 208.767

    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    Total Population: 3.879.296
    Males: 1.939.648
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 116.379

    Bulgaria
    Total Population: 7.037.935
    Males: 3.518.968
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 15,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 545.440

    Croatia
    Total Population: 4.480.043
    Males: 2.240.022
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 78.401

    Czech Republic
    Total Population: 10.177.300
    Males: 5.088.650
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 305.319

    Cyprus
    Total Population: 1.099.341
    Males: 549.671
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 37%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 203.378

    Denmark
    Total Population: 5.543.453
    Males: 2.771.727
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 69.293

    England
    Total Population: 51.000.000 (2008)
    Males: 25.500.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 892.500

    Estonia
    Total Population: 1.274.709
    Males: 637.355
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 6374

    France
    Total Population: 62.814.233
    Males: 31.407.117
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 7%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 2.198.498

    Germany
    Total Population: 81.305.856
    Males: 40.652.928
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.829.382

    Greece
    Total Population: 10.767.827
    Males: 5.383.914
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 23%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.238.300

    Hungary
    Total Population: 9.958.453
    Males: 4.979.227
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 7%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 348.546

    Italy
    Total Population: 61.261.254
    Males: 30.630.627
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 18%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 5.513.513

    Ireland
    Total Population: 6.399.152
    Males: 3.199.576
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 31.996

    Latvia
    Total Population: 2.191.580
    Males: 1.095.790
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 0,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 5479

    Macedonia (FYROM)
    Total Population: 2.082.370
    Males: 1.041.185
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 124.942

    Netherlands
    Total Population: 16.730.632
    Males: 8.365.316
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 501.919

    Norway
    Total Population: 5.033.675
    Males: 2.516.838
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 25.168

    Poland
    Total Population: 38.415.284
    Males: 19.207.642
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 480.192

    Portugal
    Total Population: 10.781.459
    Males: 5.390.730
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 9,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 512.119

    Romania
    Total Population: 21.848.504
    Males: 10.924.252
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 13%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.420.153

    Russia
    Total Population: 142.517.670
    Males: 71.258.835
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 2.137.766

    Scotland
    Total Population: 5.295.000
    Males: 2.647.500
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 2%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 52.950

    Serbia
    Total Population: 7.276.604
    Males: 3.638.302
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 236.490

    Slovakia
    Total Population: 5.445.324
    Males: 2.722.662
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 108.906

    Slovenia
    Total Population: 2.055.496
    Males: 1.027.748
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 30.832

    Spain
    Total Population: 47.265.321
    Males: 23.632.661
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.417.960

    Sweden
    Total Population: 9.540.065
    Males: 4.770.033
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 143.101

    Switzerland
    Total Population: 8.000.000
    Males: 4.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 6%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 240.000

    Turkey/Anatolia
    Total Population: 74.724.269
    Males: 37.362.135
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 24%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 8.966.912

    Ukraine
    Total Population: 44.854.065
    Males: 22.427.033
    Haplogroup J2 Frequency: 6,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.457.757

    Wales
    Total Population: 3.063.500
    Males: 1.531.750
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 1%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 15.318

    Total European Estimate: 32.322.341 (32,3 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Caucasus Population Estimate. (5 Countries)

    Armenia
    Total Population: 3.262.200
    Males: 1.631.100
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 22%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 358.842

    Azerbaijan
    Total Population: 9.165.000
    Males: 4.582.500
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 30,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.397.663

    Chechnya
    Total Population: 1.268.989
    Males: 634.495
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 56,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 358.490

    Georgia
    Total Population: 4.469.200
    Males: 2.234.600
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 27%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 603.342

    Ingushetia
    Total Population: 412.529
    Males: 206.265
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 88%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 181.513

    Total Caucasian Estimate: 2.899.850 (2,9 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Middle East Population Estimate. (5 Countries)

    Iran
    Total Population: 75.149.669
    Males: 37.574.835
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 12%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 4.508.980

    Iraq
    Total Population: 31.129.225
    Males: 15.564.613
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 3.035.099

    Jordan
    Total Population: 6.508.271
    Males: 3.254.136
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 13%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 423.038

    Lebanon
    Total Population: 4.224.000
    Males: 2.112.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 26%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 549.120

    Syria
    Total Population: 22.530.746
    Males: 11.265.373
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 17%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.915.113

    Total Middle Eastern Estimate: 10.431.350 (10,4 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA North Africa Population Estimate. (3 Countries)

    Egypt
    Total Population: 82.000.000
    Males: 41.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 11%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 4.510.000

    Libya
    Total Population: 5.670.688
    Males: 2.835.344
    No DNA data found.
    Total J2 Y-DNA = not available.

    Morocco
    Total Population: 32.644.370
    Males: 16.322.185
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 3%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 489.666

    Tunesia
    Total Population: 10.732.900
    Males: 5.366.450
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 4%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 214.658

    Total North African Estimate: 5.214.324 (5,2 Million)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Other Populations Estimate. (3 Groups)

    Ashkenazi
    Total Population: 11.200.000
    Males: 5.600.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 19%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 1.064.000

    Sephardim
    Total Population: 2.000.000
    Males: 1.000.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 25%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 250.000

    Vlach/Aromun
    Total Population: 500.000
    Males: 250.000
    Haplogroup J2 Y-DNA Frequency: 24,5%
    Total J2 Y-DNA = 61.250

    Total Other Population Estimate: 1.375.250 (1,4 Million)
    Last edited by RHAS; 11-20-2013 at 11:22 AM.

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    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions + Other Groups Frequency Estimate Top 25. (Top 25 of all countries & groups included in this research)

    1. Ingushetia (88%)
    2. Chechnya (56,5%)
    3. Cyprus (37%)
    4. Azerbaijan (30,5%)
    5. Georgia (27%)
    6. Lebanon (26%)
    7. Sephardi (25%)
    8. Vlachs/Aromuns (24,5%)
    9. Turkey (24%)
    10. Greece (23%)
    11. Armenia (22%)
    12. Albania & Iraq (19,5%)
    13. Ashkenazi (19%)
    14. Italy (18%)
    15. Syria (17%)
    16. Bulgaria (15,5%)
    17. Romania & Jordan (13%)
    18. Macedonia (FYROM), Austria, Iran (12%)
    19. Egypt (11%)
    20. Portugal (9,5%)
    22. Spain (8%)
    23. France & Hungary (7%)
    24. Serbia & Ukraine (6,5%)
    25. Netherlands, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Czech Republic, Switserland (6%)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Countries Population Estimate Top 25.
    (Top 25 of all European countries included in this research)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912)
    2. Italy (5.513.513)
    3. France (2.198.498)
    4. Russia (2.137.766)
    5. Germany (1.829.382)
    6. Ukraine (1.457.757)
    7. Romania (1.420.153)
    8. Spain (1.417.960)
    9. Greece (1.238.300)
    10. England (892.500)
    11. Bulgaria (545.440)
    12. Portugal (512.119)
    13. Netherlands (501.919)
    14. Austria (493.185)
    15. Poland (480.192)
    16. Hungary (348.546)
    17. Czech Republic (305.319)
    18. Albania (292.779)
    19. Switserland (240.000)
    20. Serbia (236.490)
    21. Cyprus (203.378)
    22. Sweden (143.101)
    23. Macedonia (FYROM) (124.942)
    24. Bosnia-Herzegovina (116.379)
    25. Slovakia (108.906)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions Population Estimate Top 25.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912)
    2. Italy (5.513.513)
    3. Egypt (4.510.000)
    4. Iran (4.508.980)
    5. Iraq (3.035.099)
    6. France (2.198.498)
    7. Russia (2.137.766)
    8. Syria (1.915.113)
    9. Germany (1.829.382)
    10. Ukraine (1.457.757)
    11. Romania (1.420.153)
    12. Spain (1.417.960)
    13. Azerbaijan (1.397.663)
    14. Greece (1.238.300)
    15. England (892.500)
    16. Georgia (603.342)
    17. Lebanon (549.120)
    18. Bulgaria (545.440)
    19. Portugal (512.119)
    20. Netherlands (501.919)
    21. Austria (493.185)
    22. Morocco (489.666)
    23. Poland (480.192)
    24. Jordan (423.038)
    25. Armenia (358.842)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Regional Population Size Estimate. (of regions included in this research)

    1. Europe, 32,3 Million (32.322.341). -Turkey/Anatolia, 23,4 Million (23.355.429)
    2. Middle East, 10,4 Million (10.431.350). +Turkey/Anatolia, 19,4 Million (19.398.262)
    3. North Africa, 5,2 Million (5.214.324)
    4. Caucasus, 2,9 Million (2.899.850)
    5. Other, 1,4 Million (1.375.250) (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Vlach/Aromun)

    Total J2 Y-DNA in all regions = 52,2 Million (52.243.115)
    Last edited by RHAS; 11-20-2013 at 11:22 AM.

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    Addendum.

    "Romans surely helped spread haplogroup J2 across its borders, judging from the distribution of J2 within Europe (frequency over 5%) wich bears an uncanny resemblance to the borders of the Roman Empire."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The propagation of J2b and E V-13 correspond roughly to the ancient Greek and Roman spheres of influence."
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "The ancient Greeks and Phoenicians were the main driving forces behind the spread of J2 around the western and southern Mediterranian"
    Eupedia.com 2013

    "Di Giacomo stressed the role of post-Neolithic migratory phenomenon, specifically that of the Ancient Greeks, as also being important in the dispersal of haplogroup J-M172."
    Wikipedia.org - Haplogroup J2 M172 2013

    "J-M172, which occurs as frequently as J-M267 in some Middle Eastern populations, is the more prevalent in Europe."
    Origin Diffusion and Differentation Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J

    J2-M172 Y-DNA European Countries Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    4. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece, Sarmatia*, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    5. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    6. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece, Sarmatia*, Scythia)
    7. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    8. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    9. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    10. England (892.500) - (Roman Empire, British Empire)
    11. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    13. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    14. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    15. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    16. Hungary (348.546) - (Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary, Austria- Hungarian Empire)
    17. Czech Republic (305.319) - (Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    18. Albania (292.779) - (Ancient Greece, Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Switserland (240.000) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    20. Serbia (236.490) - (Ancient Greece, Roman Empire, Austria- Hungarian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    21. Cyprus (203.378) - (Ancient Greece, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    22. Sweden (143.101) - (Germanic, Nordic, Viking, Kingdom of Sweden, Swedish Empire)
    23. Macedonia (FYROM) (124.942) - (Ancient Greece, Macedon, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    24. Bosnia-Herzegovina (116.379) - (Illyria, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Slovakia (108.906) - (Scytho-Thracian, Celts, Roman Empire, Kingdom of Hungary)

    J2-M172 Y-DNA Countries Of All Regions Population Estimate Top 25 + Civilisations.
    (Top 25 of all countries included in this research & major civilisations/tribes they were part of.)


    1. Turkey/Anatolia (8.966.912) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    2. Italy (5.513.513) - (Ancient Greece*, Etruscan, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Holy Roman Empire)
    3. Egypt (4.510.000) - (Ancient Egypt, Greek Ptolemaic Kingdom*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    4. Iran (4.508.980) - (Parthian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Greco-Bactrian Kingdom*, Persian Empire)
    5. Iraq (3.035.099) - (Mesopotamia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    6. France (2.198.498) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    7. Russia (2.137.766) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia, Russian Empire)
    8. Syria (1.915.113) - (Mesopotamia, Phoenician, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    9. Germany (1.829.382) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    10. Ukraine (1.457.757) - (Ancient Greece*, Sarmatia, Scythia)
    11. Romania (1.420.153) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    12. Spain (1.417.960) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire, Gothic Kingdom, Moors, Spanish Empire)
    13. Azerbaijan (1.397.663) - (Scythia, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire)
    14. Greece (1.238.300) - (Ancient Greece*, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman)
    15. England (892.500) - (Celtic, Roman Empire, British Empire)
    16. Georgia (603.342) - (Ancient Greece*, Roman Empire)
    17. Lebanon (549.120) - (Phoenician, Persian Empire, Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Ottoman)
    18. Bulgaria (545.440) - (Ancient Greece*, Thrace, Roman Empire, Byzantium, Ottoman Empire)
    19. Portugal (512.119) - (Ancient Greece*, Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    20. Netherlands (501.919) - (Germania, Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    21. Austria (493.185) - (Roman Empire, Frankish Empire, Holy Roman Empire)
    22. Morocco (489.666) - (Phoenician, Roman Empire)
    23. Poland (480.192) - (Sarmatia, Polish Kingdom, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Vlach & German Settlers)
    24. Jordan (423.038) - (Greek Seleucid Empire*, Roman Empire, Persian Empire, Ottoman Empire)
    25. Armenia (358.842) - (Kingdom of Armenia, Roman Empire, Persian Empire. Ottoman Empire, Russian)


    (Left: The geographic space over which Classical Greek and Latin served as a lingua franca in antiquity. Right: Y-DNA Haplogroup Frequency map of J2-M172.)

    Source of Language map: http://chs.harvard.edu/wa/pageR?tn=A...bdc=12&mn=4827

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    Last edited by RHAS; 11-20-2013 at 12:20 PM.

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    Y-DNA (P)
    J2b2-M241 (J-Y978*)
    mtDNA (M)
    M30b2a
    Y-DNA (M)
    R1a1-L657 (R-Y16494)
    mtDNA (P)
    M18a

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    "Lastly, HG J2b2-M241–related microsatellite variance is higher in Uttar Pradesh near the border of Nepal. It should be noted that numerous Mesolithic sites have been observed in this region (Kennedy 2000)."
    Polarity and Temporality of High-Resolution Y-Chromosome Distributions in India Identify Both Indigenous and Exogenous Expansions and Reveal Minor Genetic Influence of Central Asian Pastoralists.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380230/
    Interesting for a number of reasons. My father's phased paternal kit (via GEDmatch's phasing tool) showed high affinity for this exact area (Nepal was high on his population match) and in DNA-Tribes my highest match was the Tharu population of this region. There were other associations with Northeast Indian tribal populations in these various tests too. There's no such association with my mother's kit which was closer to Punjabi Brahmin in the admixture tools.

    Also note how the Haplogroup frequency overlaps between R1a1, R2, J2b2, but variation differs:

    http://i.imgur.com/swYxoDW.png
    http://i.imgur.com/dAmDj6f.png
    http://i.imgur.com/uBbLpsv.png

    The Geno 2.0 map shows an additional hotspot in Sindh/Gujarat which makes the correlation that much more striking.
    Last edited by Dr_McNinja; 11-20-2013 at 06:51 PM.

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    Haplogroup J2 and the spread of the Alphabet

    According to the Greek legend Europa’s brother Cadmus went looking for his kidnapped sister who is depicted on the mosaic being whisked away on the back of Zeus disguised as a bull. The story goes that in his search for Europe Cadmos transmitted the Phoenician alphabet to the Hellenes.


    The Abduction of Europa: mosaic, Byblos, 3rd century A.D . National Museum of Beirut Collection.

    "Cadmus or Kadmos (Ancient Greek: Κάδμος), in Greek mythology, was a Phoenician prince, the son of king Agenor and queen Telephassa of Tyre and the brother of Phoenix, Cilix and Europa. He was originally sent by his royal parents to seek out and escort his sister Europa back to Tyre after she was abducted from the shores of Phoenicia by Zeus. Cadmus founded the Greek city of Thebes, the acropolis of which was originally named Cadmeia in his honour. Cadmus was credited by the ancient Greeks (Herodotus is an example) with introducing the original Alphabet or Phoenician alphabet -- phoinikeia grammata, "Phoenician letters"—to the Greeks, who adapted it to form their Greek alphabet."
    Cadmus.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmus

    "There is a distinct association of ancient J2 civilisations with bull worship."
    Eupedia.com, 2011.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml

    Haplogroup J2, Greeks, Phoenicians, Etruscans, Romans.

    "The authors found a weak – but significant – genetic signature among their samples that could not be explained by chance. Many of the samples belonged to a very specific branch of haplogroup J2, which the authors believe points back to distinct migrations by Phoenician traders from the Middle East into Europe and North Africa more than 3,000 years ago."
    Ripples in the Mediterranean: Tracing the Genetic Origins of the Phoenicians.
    http://blog.23andme.com/ancestry/rip...e-phoenicians/

    "The ancient Greeks and Phoenicians were the main driving forces behind the spread of J2 around the western and southern Mediterranian."

    Eupedia.com, 2013.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origin...s_europe.shtml

    "In 2004, two geneticists educated at Harvard University and leading scientists of the National Geographic Genographic Project, Dr. Pierre Zalloua and Dr. Spencer Wells, identified "the haplogroup of the Phoenicians" as haplogroup J2, with avenues open for future research."
    Familypedia.com - Phoenicia.
    http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Phoenicia

    "Occurrence of J2-M172 Y-chromosomes in Tuscany has been related to the Etruscan heritage of the region."

    Uniparental Markers of Contemporary Italian Population Reveals Details on Its Pre-Roman Heritage.
    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0050794



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_alphabet

    "Phoenician became one of the most widely used writing systems, spread by Phoenician merchants across the Mediterranean world, where it was assimilated by many other cultures and evolved."
    Phoenician Alphabet.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet

    "The Greek alphabet was developed by a Greek with first-hand experience of contemporary Phoenician script and, almost as quickly as it was established in the Greek mainland was rapidly re-exported, eastwards to Phrygia, where a similar script was devised, and westwards with Euboean or West Greek traders, where the Etruscans adapted the Greek alphabet to their own language."
    History of the Greek Alphabet.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...Greek_alphabet

    "The Latin alphabet is the main writing system in use in the Western world and is the most widely used alphabetic writing system in the world. It is the standard script of the English language and is often referred to simply as "the alphabet" in English. It is a true alphabet which originated in the 7th century BC in Italy and has changed continually over the last 2500 years. It has roots in the Semitic alphabet and its offshoot alphabets, the Phoenician, Greek, and Etruscan."
    History of the Latin Alphabet.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...Latin_alphabet

    The English word alphabet came into Middle English from the Late Latin word alphabetum, which in turn originated in the Greek ἀλφάβητος (alphabētos), from alpha and beta, the first two letters of the Greek alphabet. Alpha and beta in turn came from the first two letters of the Phoenician alphabet, and originally meant ox and house respectively.

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    Missing Link: Ancestral Mediterraneans



    "One extraordinary group carried their traditions and their chromosomes into the Mediterranean frontier. Were they the Atlantis superheroes of science fiction? No. They do appear to have been more intellectually and artistically advanced than anyone around them in the same time period. Where they settled, they made an impact. Their descendants survived through the ages with aspects of their original ancient identity largely intact until time and assimilation finally absorbed them -- as Sea Peoples and Temple-Builders, later as Minoans and Etruscans, and still later in the great civilizations of Classical Greece and Rome. Original ancestral families of settlers who make up a bridge into civilization are the people we are identifying as The Mediterraneans."
    http://www.ancientmed.org/TheMediterraneans.htm

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    Haplogroup J2, Romans, Viticulture and Christianity.

    Correlations between the distribution/spread of Haplogroup J2-M172, the Roman Empire, Viticulture and Christianity.

    Haplogroup J2 - Roman Empire.



    Haplogroup J2 - Spread of Christianity.



    Haplogroup J2 - Viticulture.

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    Haplogroup J2 & Romans.

    "It is important to note that at least four additional YDNA markers may have arrived with the Romans. What have been described as the Balkan group (E-V13), the Ancient Caucasians (G-S314), the Herdsman-Farmers (J-M172 – and a sub-group of this, M67, looks particularly Italian) and the Anatolian marker (R1b-M269*), when taken together, potentially add another 2.3 million Englishmen and Welshmen who could trace their fatherlines to the veterans of the II Augusta, the IX Hispana, the XIV Gemina, the XX Valeria Victrix and the other Italians who crossed to Britain in their wake."
    BritainsDNA Press Releases - BritainsDNA finds the Lost Legions.
    http://www.britainsdna.com/about/press-releases

    "Moffat said his colleagues had also discovered DNA originating from Roman-period Illyria, the area occupied by modern Croatia, which may relate to Roman occupation of lowland Scotland."
    Guardian - Scotland DNA Study Project.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/au...-study-project

    "In this study, we have detected a number of lineages that are prominent in the Balkans (I2*, I2b*, J2b1 and J2b2) at low levels throughout Ararat Valley, Gardman and Lake Van, the latter of which also contains haplogroups commonly associated with Bronze Age Greece (ie, J2a8-M319 (4.9%), and E1b1b1-M78 and its sublineages (3.9%)). While this may suggest genetic input from early Greek or Phrygian tribes, it is also possible that these low levels of Balkan lineages arrived in Armenia at a later time, such as during one of the many incursions into the area during the reign of the Macedonian, Roman and Byzantine empires."
    Neolithic patrilineal signals indicate that the Armenian plateau was repopulated by agriculturalists.
    http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v...g2011192a.html

    "One fourth of the Vlach people (isolated communities of Romance language speaking peoples in the Balkans) belong to J2, which, combined to the fact that they speak a language descended from latin, suggests that they could have had a greater part of Roman (italian) ancestry than other ethnic groups in the Balkans."
    Eupedia.com, 2013.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml

    "The J2 haplogroup can be found in today’s populations with notable frequency in Italy, Iberia, Turkey, Albania, Greece and even India, and most likely interacted with numerous cultures, including the Greeks and Romans."
    Ancestry.com - Paternal Ancestry Certificate.
    http://www.ancestry.com/

    "Haplogroups in Wallonia show the expected admixture of Gallo-Roman (R1b-S28, J2, G2a, E1b1b) and Germanic (R1b-S21,I1,I2b) haplogroups."

    Eupedia.com - Ancient Ancestry Project, Benelux & France.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/benelu..._project.shtml

    "With respect to the Romans and the Visigoths, Romans appear not differ much genetically from the Iberians, particularly in relation to the Y chromosome, such that the gene frequencies of the population would not have changed much due to these invaders."
    Searching the Peopling of the Iberian Peninsulafrom the Perspective of Two Andalusian Subpopulations: A Study Based on Y-chromosome Haplogroups J and E.
    http://academia.edu/3067504/Searchin...Subpopulations
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    "Research conducted by the administrators of the Border Reivers DNA Project has identified numerous haplotypes in persons of British descent that show Haplotype 35 markers. Moreover, most of these haplotypes appear to originate from areas of Britain near the Antonine Wall, Hadrian's Wall and other places of Roman fortification or settlement. These areas include Galloway, Dumfries, Ayrshire and The Borders in Scotland, and Cumbria, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Shropshire and Staffordshire in England. Many of the Roman troops stationed in these areas came from Southeastern Europe or Western Asia. They included Sarmatians, Dacians, Goths, Syrians, Mesopotamians, Thracians and Anatolians. The Capelli study has shown that these areas also exhibit higher than average frequencies of haplogroups E3b and J2, neither of which is native to Britain. E3b is found most commonly in North Africa, Iberia, the Mediterranean and the Near East, and J2 occurs most frequently in the Near East, the Mediterranean and Western Asia. The fact that all three groups - E3b, J2 and Haplotype 35 - have a similar origin in territories of the Roman Empire, and occur at comparable frequencies in parts of Britain with a known history of Roman settlement, suggests that they arrived in Britain through the same means."
    Elliot (And border receivers) DNA Project (Haplogroup J2) - Haplogroup R1b (Haplotype 35).
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....5_analysis.htm

    "The members of this haplotype are found in high numbers in Anatolia and Armenia, with smaller numbers throughout Central Asia, the Middle East, the Balkans, the Caucus Mountains, and in Jewish populations. They are also present in Britain in areas that were found to have a high concentration of Haplogroup J, suggesting they arrived together, perhaps through Roman soldiers."
    Wikipedia.org - Haplotype 35.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplotype_35

    "We could even go so far as to suggest he probably was a member of the J Haplogroup carrying the J2 (M172 subgroup) y-chromosome."
    Roman Times - Roman Archaeology.
    http://ancientimes.blogspot.nl/p/rom...eology_29.html

    "Romans surely helped spread haplogroup J2 across its borders, judging from the distribution of J2 within Europe (frequency over 5%) wich bears an uncanny resemblance to the borders of the Roman Empire."
    Eupedia.com , 2013.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml

    "Another relatively more recent mode for J2's entry into some parts of Europe from the Mediterranean areas could have been the Roman Legions and Roman settlements."
    Kerchner.com - YDNA Haplogroup Descriptions & Information Links.
    http://www.kerchner.com/haplogroups-ydna.htm

    "This lineage originated in the northern portion of the Fertile Crescent where it later spread throughout central Asia, the Mediterranean, and south into India. J2 is found in Britain, but rarely. It is most common in Eastern European countries, leading to speculation that it is either from gypsy background or, possibly, from Eastern European soldiers stationed in Britain during the Roman occupation in the first three centuries AD."
    Scotland DNA Project.
    http://www.ourfamilyorigins.com/scotland/j2.htm

    "Nog een aardigheidje voor Oost-Brabant: daar is een relatieve concentratie van haplogroep J gevonden. Volgens genetisch genealogen zijn die mensen waarschijnlijk nazaten van de oude Romeinen, gelegerd in Noviomagus (Nijmegen) of rond Locus Paludosus (De Peel)."
    Eindhovens Dagblad - Veel DNA komt uit Spanje en ScandinaviŽ. (Dutch)
    http://www.ed.nl/regio/4449996/Veel-...candinavie.ece

    Translated: One remarkable fact about this research is the concentration of J(2) found in the province of North Brabant, Genetic Genealogist believe these people are decended from Roman Soldiers stationed in Noviomagus (City of Nijmegen) and Locus Paludosis (De Peel)"

    "From about 700 BCE, the Etruscans settled around Tuscany and the Greeks in southern Italy. Etruscans probably came from Palestine and brought haplogroups J1, J2 and E with them. The Greeks in Italy were Doric and brought J2, E, G2a and probably more R1b (see above). The Romans progressively absorbed the Etruscans and Italian Greeks and mixed with them. By the time of Julius Caesar Roman citizens were probably composed of 45% of R1b, 20% of J, 15% of E, 15% of G2a and 5% of I2a."
    Eupedia.com - Y-DNA haplogroups of ancient civilizations.
    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...-civilizations

    "De verdeling der hoofdhaplogroepen met ruwweg hun plaats van ontstaan en de afgelegde weg: R1b: 145 57,31 % directe afstammelingen van de Cro-Magnons. I1: 030 11,86 % Balkan, Centraal Europa, ScandinaviŽ. I2: 027 10,67 % Caucasus, Balkan, gebied van ex-JoegoslaviŽ. E1: 016 06,32 % Noord-Afrika, Middellandse Zeegebied. J2: 011 04,35 % MesopotamiŽ, FeniciŽrs, Grieken, Zuid-ItaliŽ, (Romeinen)."
    Familiekunde Vlaanderen - Jaarverslag 2009. (Dutch)
    http://www.familiekunde-vlaanderen.b...lag%202009.pdf

    "In deze studie wordt een tot nu toe niet bekende concentratie van de haplogroepen J in oostelijk Brabant aangetroffen. Het betreft hier voornamelijk J2 en oude, gevestigde families. Het is niet onmogelijk dat hier sprake is van families van nazaten van īRomeinseīsoldaten. Ook in het grensgebied van Engeland en Schotland is een concentratie van J2 families gevonden. In dat gebied zijn ook resten van tempels van de Iraanse god Mitras bekend en blijkt er een boogschuttereenheid uit het Midden/Oosten gelegerd geweest te zijn. Romeinse aanwezigheid in het land van Cuijck en aan de randen van de Peel (de naam is afkomstig van de naam die de Romeinen aan het gied gaven: Locus Paludosus ofwel moerassige streek) is bekend, zoals ook landmetingen van militairen die zich er gevestigd hadden en landbouw bedreven."
    Project Genetische Genealogie in Nederland. (Dutch)
    http://www.barjesteh.nl/DNAproject.htm

    Translated: "In this study is an untill now unknown concentration of J haplogroups found in eastern Brabant. These mainly are old established J2 families. It is not impossible that these families are descendants of Roman Soldiers. Also in the border area of England and Scotland concentrations of J2 families are found. In these areas temples of the Iranian god Mithras are known to have excisted and there appears to be remnants of an archer unit stationed in the Middle / East. Roman presence in the country in that area of Cuijck and at the edges of the Peel (the name comes from the name the Romans gave to the area: Locus paludosus either swampy area) is known, as surveying of soldiers who had established and agriculture experts ".

    "J2 - This haplogroup originated during the Neolithic in Central Asia, and spread across the Mediterranean and the Middle East. It may have been brought to Britain by prehistoric farmers, Greek or Phoenician traders and Sephardic Jews among the Normans and the Flemish - as well as by Roman troops and settlers."
    Elliot (And border receivers) DNA Project.
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb..../~gallgaedhil/

    "Het eerste jaar heeft tal van verrassingen opgeleverd. Via de gevonden DNA-profielen konden een aantal families aan elkaar gekoppeld worden, die voor het project nog niet van een onderlinge band wisten. Verrassend was voor tal van deelnemers ook de diepere oorsprong van de familie. Een oorsprong die bijvoorbeeld mogelijk te vinden is bij de zich in onze gebieden gevestigd hebbende soldaten uit het Romeinse leger."
    Heemkundekring Weerderheem - Project Genetische Genealogie in Nederland. (Dutch)
    http://www.weerderheemvalkenswaard.n...caties-dna.pdf

    Translated: The first year has yielded many surprises. A number of families could be linked together, which did not yet know of a mutual bond. Surprisingly for many participants were the discovery of deeper origins of the family. An origin that may be found for example in the areas were soldiers from the Roman army having settled.

    "The propagation of J2b and E V-13 correspond roughly to the ancient Greek and Roman spheres of influence."
    Eupedia.com, 2013.
    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origin...s_europe.shtml

    "TONGEREN/ALKEN/WELLEN - Welke Tongerse families stammen echt af van de Romeinen? Onderzoekers van de KU Leuven zoeken dat uit aan de hand van DNA-stalen van tientallen mannen. Het Romeins DNA-project is een initiatief van het laboratorium van forensische genetica en moleculaire archeologie van de Leuvense universiteit en Familiekunde Vlaanderen."
    Nieuwsblad - Romeins DNA van Limburgers onderzocht.
    http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/det...21104_00357111

    Translated: Which Tongeren families are really descendants of the Romans? Researchers of the University of Leuven are investigation the DNA samples of dozens of men. The Roman DNA-project is an initiative of the laboratory of forensic genetics and molecular archeology of the University of Leuven and the Genealogical Society of Flanders.

    "In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire by the decree of the Emperor, which would persist until the fall of the Western Empire, and later, with the Eastern Roman Empire, until the Fall of Constantinople."
    History of the Catholic Church.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...atholic_Church

    Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberiu..._Abdes_Pantera

    Roman DNA Project.
    http://romandnaproject.org/


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