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Thread: My Brothers AncestryDNA results. Swedish-Italian.

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    My fathers MDLP World-22


    1 69% Italian-North (derived) + 31% Karelian (derived) @ 2.91
    2 66.8% Italian-North (derived) + 33.2% Finnish (derived) @ 2.97
    3 70.9% Italian-North (derived) + 29.1% Vepsa (derived) @ 2.99
    4 67.9% Corsican (derived) + 32.1% Vepsa (derived) @ 3.27
    5 68.8% Italian-North (derived) + 31.2% Finnish-South (derived) @ 3.31
    6 65.8% Corsican (derived) + 34.2% Karelian (derived) @ 3.33
    7 67.2% Italian-North (derived) + 32.8% Inkeri (derived) @ 3.47
    8 63.6% Corsican (derived) + 36.4% Finnish (derived) @


    And original World:

    62.7% Italian-North + 37.3% Russian_North @ 1.88
    2 69.4% Italian-North + 30.6% Vepsa @ 1.91
    3 80.9% Italian_North + 19.1% Saami @ 1.99
    4 67.5% Italian-North + 32.5% Karelian @ 2.01
    5 70.4% Italian-North + 29.6% Finnish-North @ 2.17
    6 65.7% Italian-North + 34.3% Finnish @ 2.19
    7 67.7% Italian-North + 32.3% Finnish-South @ 2.25
    8 75.6% German + 24.4% Jew_Morocco @ 2.4
    9 72.9% German + 27.1% Jew_France @ 2.42
    10 59.3% Italian-North + 40.7% Moldavian @ 2.45
    11 88.8% Montenegrin + 11.2% Saami @ 2.48
    12 73.3% German + 26.7% Jew_Italia @ 2.5
    13 51.3% Italian-North + 48.7% Mordovian_V @ 2.51
    14 82.2% Provancal + 17.8% Saami @ 2.53
    15 74.6% German + 25.4% Sephardim @ 2.53
    16 75.2% German + 24.8% Jew_Algeria @ 2.68
    17 57.7% German + 42.3% Ashkenazim_V @ 2.81
    18 71.3% German + 28.7% Ashkenazim @ 2.82
    19 85% Swiss + 15% Saami @ 2.85
    20 76.2% German + 23.8% Jew_Tunisia @
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Known ancestery:
    50% Swedish(Norrland + Svealand)
    37.5% North Tuscany
    12.5% Lappland(Possible Saami or Finnish)


    Sweden (South Sweden Skåne)
    34%
    Norway
    26%
    Finland
    15%
    England, Wales and Northwest Europe
    9%
    Frankrike
    8%
    Germanic Europe
    5%
    Italy
    3%


    Eurogenes K13
    You sure you're actually Italian? Because pretty much non existent on your results.
    DNA Tribes

    Balto - North Slavic 22.4%
    Northwest European 18.8%
    Italian Greek 18.1%
    Persian Jewish 9%
    Iberian 6.3%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 5.9%
    Basque 4.3%
    Sephardic Jewish 4.1%
    Balochi Punjab 3.7%
    Caucasus 2.5%
    Urals 1.3%
    Finnish 1.2%
    Lebanese Cypriot 1%
    Other 1.4%

    Sephardic Jewish Turkey 18.8%
    Argyll and Bute Scottish Highlands 18.6%
    Sardinia 18.4%
    Lithuania 15.7%
    Russia Voronezh 7%
    Belgium 5.6%
    Syrian Jewish 4.9%
    Libyan Jewish 4.4%
    Russia Tver 2.4%
    Azerbaijani Jewish 2.2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tz85 View Post
    You sure you're actually Italian? Because pretty much non existent on your results.
    Yes. 100% Sure. If you noticed I posted my fathers gedmatch above.

    Here is my fathers K13

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 35.06
    2 Baltic 19.59
    3 West_Med 19.17
    4 East_Med 11.33
    5 West_Asian 6.57
    6 Siberian 4.45
    7 Red_Sea 1.92
    8 East_Asian 0.62
    9 Oceanian 0.49
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.4
    11 Amerindian 0.29
    12 South_Asian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 French 8.32
    2 West_German 9.82
    3 South_Dutch 10.49
    4 Austrian 11.47
    5 Portuguese 11.58
    6 Serbian 11.74
    7 Spanish_Galicia 11.75
    8 Spanish_Cataluna 11.9
    9 North_Italian 12.68
    10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.85
    11 Hungarian 13.05
    12 Romanian 13.12
    13 Spanish_Extremadura 13.2
    14 Spanish_Murcia 13.5
    15 East_German 13.61
    16 Spanish_Valencia 13.88
    17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.43
    18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.66
    19 Southwest_French 14.67
    20 Spanish_Andalucia 14.93

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 69.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.4% Tatar @ 2.16
    2 75.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 24.2% Chuvash @ 2.62
    3 66.4% Spanish_Valencia + 33.6% Tatar @ 3.08
    4 68.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 31.8% Tatar @ 3.17
    5 70.7% Portuguese + 29.3% Tatar @ 3.37
    6 67.2% Spanish_Murcia + 32.8% Tatar @ 3.51
    7 78% Spanish_Cataluna + 22% Mari @ 3.56
    8 65.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 34.7% Tatar @ 3.61
    9 73% Spanish_Valencia + 27% Chuvash @ 3.64
    10 76.8% Portuguese + 23.2% Chuvash @ 3.78
    11 74.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 25.3% Chuvash @ 3.81
    12 73.7% Spanish_Murcia + 26.3% Chuvash @ 3.83
    13 61.7% Spanish_Aragon + 38.3% Tatar @ 3.85
    14 71.8% Spanish_Murcia + 28.2% Erzya @ 3.95
    15 67.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 32.1% Tatar @ 4.04
    16 72% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 28% Chuvash @ 4.04
    17 64.3% North_Italian + 35.7% North_Swedish @ 4.04
    18 70.7% Spanish_Galicia + 29.3% Tatar @ 4.1
    19 65.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 34.2% Tatar @ 4.15
    20 74.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 25.7% Chuvash

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    Never found Dodecad a particularly good calculator. I think Eurogenes is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    Never found Dodecad a particularly good calculator. I think Eurogenes is better.
    Agree. Only problem is that it puts my and my brothers swedish and italian together to South dutch or similar populations.

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    K13 generic N Italian/N Swedish/your dad/your brother:

    N Atl: 31.7/44.5/35.1/42.4
    Baltic: 11.9/36.3/19.6/24.9
    W Med: 25.8/7.4/19.2/13.1
    W Asian: 6.9/3.2/6.6/4.9
    E Med: 19.6/1.3/11.3/7.9
    Red Sea: 2.8/0.8/1.9/1.2

    Makes sense all together, and K13 does provide the right answer as an option, as you highlighted. It just seems to be a really hard mix for the mainstream calculators to come up with, maybe because the N Swedish counterbalances the Mediterranean to such an extent (and it's already a northern-leaning Italian anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmarjoribanks View Post
    K13 generic N Italian/N Swedish/your dad/your brother:

    N Atl: 31.7/44.5/35.1/42.4
    Baltic: 11.9/36.3/19.6/24.9
    W Med: 25.8/7.4/19.2/13.1
    W Asian: 6.9/3.2/6.6/4.9
    E Med: 19.6/1.3/11.3/7.9
    Red Sea: 2.8/0.8/1.9/1.2

    Makes sense all together, and K13 does provide the right answer as an option, as you highlighted. It just seems to be a really hard mix for the mainstream calculators to come up with, maybe because the N Swedish counterbalances the Mediterranean to such an extent (and it's already a northern-leaning Italian anyway).
    Thank you for your input. Appreciate the help.
    I had some similar thoughts. That the northern pulls up the already quite northern Italian. Because it look so minor in most calculators and sites.

    I don't understand why my brother gets Tuscany as reference while I just get Spanish tho'. Maybe because of higher red sea + W Asian?

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    6 Siberian 4.45
    8 East_Asian 0.62

    So your father is over 5% East Eurasian. How much does your father get on Dodecad?

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    Dodecad K12b

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 34.12
    2 Atlantic_Med 32.75
    3 Caucasus 15.32
    4 Gedrosia 6.41
    5 Southwest_Asian 4.59
    6 Siberian 4.55
    7 Northwest_African 1.65
    8 East_Asian 0.53
    9 Sub_Saharan

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    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 60.06
    2 Southern 19.29
    3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 14.33
    4 Siberian 4.88
    5 Australasian 0.52
    6 Amerindian 0.32
    7 African 0.28
    8 East_Asian 0.25
    9 South_Asian 0.06

    Dodecad K7b

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 59.75
    2 Southern 20.1
    3 West_Asian 14.51
    4 Siberian 5.08
    5 African 0.34
    6 East_Asian 0.18
    7 South_Asian 0.0


    Dodecad V3

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 39.05
    2 Mediterranean 26.99
    3 East_European 12.28
    4 West_Asian 11.31
    5 Northeast_Asian 3.88
    6 Southwest_Asian 3.5
    7 Northwest_African 1.93
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.92
    9 South_Asian 0.08
    10 East_African 0.05

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