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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    Nomans ordered with LivingDNA, and his results are due soon, so I would wait for them. LivingDNA's mtDNA and Y-DNA coverage is absolutely fantastic for a generic DNA testing service, although their autosomal results are bad.
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    Not really, it is the shittiest for southasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
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    Not really, it is the shittiest for southasians.
    I completely disagree. The Y-DNA tree they use seems to be pretty up to date with the current ISOGG tree. I can only speak for R2 however the tree they had for R2 was just as detailed as the ISOGG tree, which is brilliant considering R2s ISOGG tree has a small amount of SNPs compared to other Y-DNA. Sapporo showed me his results and his Y-DNA result was also detailed enough. His result was L-Z5921. The ISOGG and YFull trees only have two subclades below his so that's pretty good as well considering 23andMe only gave him L-M357, and he didn't even test with v5, otherwise he would only get L-M22, according to him.

    They also test for R2b, which 23andMe don't even do.

    I've seen Geno 2.0 mess up individual results too, there was a Sidhu Jatt who was F (possibly H) who had issues with them assigning him J and they assigned noman R1b1a1a2a1a which is completely off, however he did transfer from Helix.

    Like I said, considering they're just a generic DNA testing company and not a full sequencing company like FGC Corp, I'm really impressed with their Y-DNA coverage.

    If you know of other South Asians who had bad haplogroup results from LivingDNA then I would like to know. I'm willing to change my mind if I saw bad experiences from them but what I've seen from them so far is impressive enough.
    Y-DNA (ISOGG 2019): R2a2b1b2a1a1-Y1383*

    YFull Line (From R-M207):

    M207+ ---> M479+ ---> M124+ ---> P267+ ---> Y12100+ ---> Y8763+ ---> Y8766+ ---> V3714+ ---> SK2142+ ---> Y1377+ ---> Y1379+ ---> Z29271+ ---> Y1383+ -X-> Y154917-

    Important Y-DNA negatives (within R2a-M124): L295-, Y5080-, L1069-, F1092-, L288-, L263-

    Extra mtDNA rCRS mutations: 207A, (315.1C), (523-), (524-), 2404C, 6150A, 8898T, 9755A, 15433T

    FTDNA Kit: IN41220

    GEDmatch Kit (MyHeritage): KC4074281

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    Can you kindly clarify on what you mean by transferred through helix, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by jortita View Post
    Can you kindly clarify on what you mean by transferred through helix, thank you
    Okay!

    I ordered my Neanderthal kit from insitome, and Insitome is affiliated with Helix, so if you buy any of the Helix products, you don't have to send your sample again. You can just authorize Helix to keep using your provided sample. It actually costs cheaper, if you are already a member at Helix. I saw Geno, and it was at must cheaper rate than Nat Geo site, so I just authorized Helix to provide my sample to Nat Geo, paid some fee, and got my results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    I completely disagree. The Y-DNA tree they use seems to be pretty up to date with the current ISOGG tree. I can only speak for R2 however the tree they had for R2 was just as detailed as the ISOGG tree, which is brilliant considering R2s ISOGG tree has a small amount of SNPs compared to other Y-DNA. Sapporo showed me his results and his Y-DNA result was also detailed enough. His result was L-Z5921. The ISOGG and YFull trees only have two subclades below his so that's pretty good as well considering 23andMe only gave him L-M357, and he didn't even test with v5, otherwise he would only get L-M22, according to him.

    They also test for R2b, which 23andMe don't even do.

    I've seen Geno 2.0 mess up individual results too, there was a Sidhu Jatt who was F (possibly H) who had issues with them assigning him J and they assigned noman R1b1a1a2a1a which is completely off, however he did transfer from Helix.

    Like I said, considering they're just a generic DNA testing company and not a full sequencing company like FGC Corp, I'm really impressed with their Y-DNA coverage.

    If you know of other South Asians who had bad haplogroup results from LivingDNA then I would like to know. I'm willing to change my mind if I saw bad experiences from them but what I've seen from them so far is impressive enough.
    I bought two kits from livingdna, only one was sent in, yDNA results are L-M27, so crude, and mtDNA also was crude compared to results of a relative 7 years before from 23andme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    I bought two kits from livingdna, only one was sent in, yDNA results are L-M27, so crude, and mtDNA also was crude compared to results of a relative 7 years before from 23andme.
    Interesting. This has me questioning their accuracy for the L1a2 subclade breakdown they did for me. Maybe I should test if Im positive for that clade with FTDNA. Any recommendations?
    I4285 I4285 1873-1661 calBCE (343025 BP, PSUAMS-2536) BMAC Sappali_Tepe_BA Sappali Tepe Uzbekistan U7a3 L1a
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    I bought two kits from livingdna, only one was sent in, yDNA results are L-M27, so crude, and mtDNA also was crude compared to results of a relative 7 years before from 23andme.
    I wasn't expecting that. It seems their tree might not be up-to-date for L-M27 then. Your Y-DNA has plenty of subclades below M27 on ISOGG and YFull trees. That's a shame to hear
    Y-DNA (ISOGG 2019): R2a2b1b2a1a1-Y1383*

    YFull Line (From R-M207):

    M207+ ---> M479+ ---> M124+ ---> P267+ ---> Y12100+ ---> Y8763+ ---> Y8766+ ---> V3714+ ---> SK2142+ ---> Y1377+ ---> Y1379+ ---> Z29271+ ---> Y1383+ -X-> Y154917-

    Important Y-DNA negatives (within R2a-M124): L295-, Y5080-, L1069-, F1092-, L288-, L263-

    Extra mtDNA rCRS mutations: 207A, (315.1C), (523-), (524-), 2404C, 6150A, 8898T, 9755A, 15433T

    FTDNA Kit: IN41220

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    Update:

    I first emailed Razib Khan, explained my situation, and that's what he responded.



    Then, I had a live chat with one of the representatives of Insitome because that's where my raw data was transferred. Insitome told me contact Helix.

    I sent an email to Helix and waited for their response.

    Next day, I had a phone conversation with someone at Geno department. She told me that 23andme does testing from the recent population, we go back 1000s of years. That's why you have different Y DNA haplogroup by us. I don't know what she meant, so I said: thank you, and ended the conversation.

    Today, I receive the response from Helix:



    I know, my Y DNA can't be R2b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noman View Post
    Update:

    I first emailed Razib Khan, explained my situation, and that's what he responded.



    Then, I had a live chat with one of the representatives of Insitome because that's where my raw data was transferred. Insitome told me contact Helix.

    I sent an email to Helix and waited for their response.

    Next day, I had a phone conversation with someone at Geno department. She told me that 23andme does testing from the recent population, we go back 1000s of years. That's why you have different Y DNA haplogroup by us. I don't know what she meant, so I said: thank you, and ended the conversation.

    Today, I receive the response from Helix:



    I know, my Y DNA can't be R2b.
    What I don't get is that MorleyDNA shows that 23andMe tested you positive for M479, L266 and M124. I guess its a waiting game while we wait for LivingDNA (seriously, when will they give you your results lol).

    The woman from the Geno department was spouting complete nonsense. If you look at 23andMe's raw data, they tested you all the way from the root of the Y-DNA tree (A0-T) all the way to R2, so I would pretend that conversation never happened.

    The Helix response rubs me the wrong way a little bit. Reeks of red herrings and bias. I wouldn't take them at their word either. They just sound like they're trying to shift the blame to avoid responsibility. Wait until your LivingDNA results come........eventually.
    Y-DNA (ISOGG 2019): R2a2b1b2a1a1-Y1383*

    YFull Line (From R-M207):

    M207+ ---> M479+ ---> M124+ ---> P267+ ---> Y12100+ ---> Y8763+ ---> Y8766+ ---> V3714+ ---> SK2142+ ---> Y1377+ ---> Y1379+ ---> Z29271+ ---> Y1383+ -X-> Y154917-

    Important Y-DNA negatives (within R2a-M124): L295-, Y5080-, L1069-, F1092-, L288-, L263-

    Extra mtDNA rCRS mutations: 207A, (315.1C), (523-), (524-), 2404C, 6150A, 8898T, 9755A, 15433T

    FTDNA Kit: IN41220

    GEDmatch Kit (MyHeritage): KC4074281

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    What I don't get is that MorleyDNA shows that 23andMe tested you positive for M479, L266 and M124. I guess its a waiting game while we wait for LivingDNA (seriously, when will they give you your results lol).

    The woman from the Geno department was spouting complete nonsense. If you look at 23andMe's raw data, they tested you all the way from the root of the Y-DNA tree (A0-T) all the way to R2, so I would pretend that conversation never happened.

    The Helix response rubs me the wrong way a little bit. Reeks of red herrings and bias. I wouldn't take them at their word either. They just sound like they're trying to shift the blame to avoid responsibility. Wait until your LivingDNA results come........eventually.
    I have no hope on Living DNA. Their wait time is never-ending.
    I can't get my raw data directly from helix because that would cost me: (Exome+ Data) $499.00

    I copied the data from Geno 2.0 raw data and pasted them in Morley DNA and that's what I got. I thought to transfer geno to FTDNA, but FTDNA doesn't accept Helix transferred data files.

    Last edited by noman; 01-09-2019 at 07:42 PM.
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