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    Are the Southwest German people closer to the Celts ?

    Perhaps the origin of the Celts is in the South of Germany or a other part of France, I don't know but I had heard about the origin of the Celts, I bet that you can explain me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio Delfin Vang B View Post
    Perhaps the origin of the Celts is in the South of Germany or a other part of France, I don't know but I had heard about the origin of the Celts, I bet that you can explain me
    The proto-Celts originally came from the Danube valley, or so i have read. However you have to consider the fact that massive cultural assimilation took place in the millenia since then, there is a reason they're often being completely lumped together with germanics in the "celto-germanic" monicker. I was born and live in the northern part of southwestern Germany not far from the Rhine river and there are many ancient celtic burial sites and celtic-themed museums here which can be visited, the local sense of historical identity infused with celtic, roman, french and plain germanic influences can be interesting. I wouldn't necessarily say we're a celtic "stronghold" region as is the case with some parts of the UK though.

    This whole region of europe in fact is pretty ancient when it comes to human/proto-germanic settlement. I'm sure you've heard of the Herxheim dig site, there's some interesting documentaries out there on it - Also some of the earliest neanderthal Venus figurines that have been found to date are from modern-day Baden-Wurttemberg aswell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilio Delfin Vang B View Post
    Perhaps the origin of the Celts is in the South of Germany or a other part of France, I don't know but I had heard about the origin of the Celts, I bet that you can explain me
    Celts are from the North of Germany, not the South.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tz85 View Post
    Celts are from the North of Germany, not the South.
    Is there evidence for this? From what I've seen the Celts did not come from the North of Germany...

    Celtic_expansion_in_Europe.png

    Yellow = Halstatt territory
    Light Green = maximum Celtic expansion
    Turquoise (in Iberia) = Celtic presence uncertain
    Dark Green = current extent of Celtic languages
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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Is there evidence for this? From what I've seen the Celts did not come from the North of Germany...

    Celtic_expansion_in_Europe.png

    Yellow = Halstatt territory
    Light Green = maximum Celtic expansion
    Turquoise (in Iberia) = Celtic presence uncertain
    Dark Green = current extent of Celtic languages
    Same here. Perhaps this is a reference to the Cimbri theory that some people hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Same here. Perhaps this is a reference to the Cimbri theory that some people hold.
    I'm still quite skeptical that the Cimbri/Teutones were Celts. Sure their leaders had seemingly Celtic names and we are aware that there were trade networks rather early on in Europe which would have exposed early Germanic cultures to Celtic influence. We even see later Germanic kings/chiefs with "Celtic" names (Maroboduus to name one such king).

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Is there evidence for this? From what I've seen the Celts did not come from the North of Germany...

    Celtic_expansion_in_Europe.png

    Yellow = Halstatt territory
    Light Green = maximum Celtic expansion
    Turquoise (in Iberia) = Celtic presence uncertain
    Dark Green = current extent of Celtic languages
    Check the net for the celtic capital of glauberg
    It is near modern frankfurt


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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    I'm still quite skeptical that the Cimbri/Teutones were Celts. Sure their leaders had seemingly Celtic names and we are aware that there were trade networks rather early on in Europe which would have exposed early Germanic cultures to Celtic influence. We even see later Germanic kings/chiefs with "Celtic" names (Maroboduus to name one such king).
    There is a dna paper on the cimbri.....iirc, it states their origin in eastern bavaria


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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Check the net for the celtic capital of glauberg
    It is near modern frankfurt
    That isn't in Northern Germany exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    There is a dna paper on the cimbri.....iirc, it states their origin in eastern bavaria
    Is this paper refering to the Cimbrian Bavarian speakers who live in modern day Italy? Or is it refering to the Cimbri/Teutones of the famous Cimbrian War?

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