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    There has been an update on 23andMe in the last 24 hours.
    Layout has ever so slightly changed on ancestry composition.
    My 1.8 French & German has been allocated now to same area of southern France my mother gets on 23andMe and I now get an added hit on the ancestry maps for “likely” on Ireland where as before I only had area’s of England.
    Plus:
    23andMe has now Changed there description/explanation for recent Ancestor maps location.
    (Probably had a lot of emails from customers on subject)

    Now says:C32EAF6D-571C-4316-BF8E-E4B5F23ED1C0.pngD69D38C7-6C23-457A-B952-D0C4C4E75A4C.png

    So technically Sharing DNA with people with ancestry going back to one location does not necessarily mean you have ancestry from that location,and maps will change as database grows.
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    And just received these two emails from 23andMe stating that they allocate regional ancestry the same way as countries giving you location if you are related to 5 or more customers with ancestry from location you will be also be assigned location. ( I imagine the more DNA relatives above 5 that share that location the darker The coloring of the region on map)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudio View Post
    There has been an update on 23andMe in the last 24 hours.
    Layout has ever so slightly changed on ancestry composition.
    My 1.8 French & German has been allocated now to same area of southern France my mother gets on 23andMe and I now get an added hit on the ancestry maps for “likely” on Ireland where as before I only had area’s of England.
    Plus:
    23andMe has now Changed there description/explanation for recent Ancestor maps location.
    (Probably had a lot of emails from customers on subject)

    Now says:C32EAF6D-571C-4316-BF8E-E4B5F23ED1C0.pngD69D38C7-6C23-457A-B952-D0C4C4E75A4C.png

    So technically Sharing DNA with people with ancestry going back to one location does not necessarily mean you have ancestry from that location,and maps will change as database grows.
    your correct...major increase for me in ialtian from 35.8% to see below and a first time iberian addition............also lost my east-asian........french/german stayed the same






    new alpine matches from italians with surnames

    Penner, Linter, Segurini, Serrer, Zardo, Tezzele, Koestenberger, Moschitz, Unterluggauer ......................I only have a penner so far in my tree

    The Beta map remains exactly the same ............and I have zero in every other country in the beta test
    Last edited by vettor; 01-15-2019 at 11:25 PM.

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    is the french/german just a northern italian regional similarity thing?
    nMonte K36
    Fit = 1.87
    NE England 47.5%
    IT Calabria 33.3%
    NL_Friesland 13.3%
    SV_Svealand 5.83%

    G25
    Fit=2.03
    Eng 61.67%
    IT South 30%
    Sweden 8.33%


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    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    my fathers changed as well



    European 99.6% from 99.2

    Italian 38.0% from 21.6
    Italy

    French & German 24.7% from 15.7

    Spanish & Portuguese 10.3% from zero

    Eastern European 1.4% from 6.1

    Broadly Southern European 17.9%

    Broadly Northwestern European 3.3%

    Broadly European 4.1%

    East Asian & Native American 0.3% from 0.9



    Fathers beta map states, now, in order

    Veneto
    Lombardy
    Sardinia
    Calabria
    Last edited by vettor; 01-15-2019 at 11:36 PM.

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    is the french/german just a northern italian regional similarity thing?
    could be....i have both austrian, and
    german matches from Hessians and Swabians

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    sons results changed as well


    European 99.8% ...................from 99.2

    Italian 42.4% .........................from 27.8
    Italy

    French & German 20.9% ..........from 15.7

    Spanish & Portuguese 5.2% ......same % ....from mother

    Greek & Balkan 3.5% .........from 2.1

    Eastern European 1.5% ........from 3.6

    Broadly Southern European 18.4%

    Broadly Northwestern European 1.7%

    Broadly European 6.3%

    East Asian & Native American 0.1% ...........from 0.5
    Manchurian & Mongolian 0.1%


    Maybe 23andme sorted out some numbers for the italians/austrian alps ....maybe they have defined the populace there

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    My wife is quarter Italian with ancestor's from the hills above Genoa. Her area are Liguria and Piedmont with almost nothing else chosen.

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    My mom has 2.1% Italian with Campania and Sicily as subregions...we have no Italian family lines.Screenshot_2019-01-15 Ancestry Composition - 23andMe.png
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    12.5% Prussian (Pomeranian)
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    This beta test thing was a good tip because it actually seems to be more accurate from what I know from my family tree and other tests. Pretty cool!

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