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    Anyone else notice that private variants for other subclades aren’t showing anymore on the Block Tree? This is disappointing because I found this information useful for seeing variable snp mutation rates for various patrilineal lines.
    I1 (3200 BC - 2000 BC) Battle Axe Culture >
    DF29 > Z58 > Z59 > Z2041 > Z2040 >
    Z382 (1800 BC - 900 BC) Nordic Bronze Age >
    S26361 > S16414 > FGC24354 >
    FGC24357 (500 BC - 300 AD) Nordic Iron Age >
    FGC24356 > S10350 > FGC75802 >
    Y125947 Lübeck, Germany >
    S21197 Ireland > BY149414 Scotland >
    BY188003 (1544 AD - 1875 AD) >
    BY188570 (Jean Wauthy 1908 AD) Belgium

    YFull id: YF15884

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    Yes, I did. It also looks like the left hand bar that has the total number of SNPs has changed position, too.

    Edit: it appears to be up and running now.
    Last edited by JMcB; 06-28-2019 at 06:04 PM.
    Paper Trail: 43.8% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >A13252/YSEQ (circa 1630 AD).

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    Is there anyway to find out who one of your block mates are? Including myself there are seven of us on the FGC23196 block. 5 of us are on further downstream blocks. Two kits are still at the parent block. One kit has a French flag, this person I have communicated with. The second kit has an Italian flag. I never knew of this kit as they are not in the DF27 project nor have they submitted their results to Yfull or the Big Tree. As there anyway to find out who they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    Is there anyway to find out who one of your block mates are? Including myself there are seven of us on the FGC23196 block. 5 of us are on further downstream blocks. Two kits are still at the parent block. One kit has a French flag, this person I have communicated with. The second kit has an Italian flag. I never knew of this kit as they are not in the DF27 project nor have they submitted their results to Yfull or the Big Tree. As there anyway to find out who they are?
    Perhaps, a shot in the dark but have you tried filtering your STR matches for someone with a Big Y test and an Italian MDKA?
    Paper Trail: 43.8% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >A13252/YSEQ (circa 1630 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Perhaps, a shot in the dark but have you tried filtering your STR matches for someone with a Big Y test and an Italian MDKA?
    I did and they must not be a 12 marker match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Personally, I don't find the "myOrigins" part of the new Big Y Block Tree all that important, at least not to me. Most of one's autosomal dna comes from places other than the single line of males who comprise the y-chromosome line. Even really close Big Y matches can differ significantly on autosomal dna depending upon what this or that ancestor's mother was like.

    Now, if they wanted to throw some ancient dna results into the tree, like maybe a few exemplars here and there on the y-chromosome line, that would be cool.
    I came here to ask what the Origins thing referred to, and this thread helpfully answered my questions. I agree with the above, though.

    My dad has only one BigY match, and it's more relevant that the match is in England and English as far back as he knows (not that far, however), and that my dad's patrilineal line is also in England as of the 1700s.

    It's not that relevant that they average:

    69% British Isles
    13.5% West and Central Europe
    7% Scandinavia
    7% East Europe
    2% South Europe
    1% Other

    Since there are only two of them, this does let me see that my dad's English match is apparently:

    63% British Isles
    27% West and Central Europe
    10% Scandinavia

    But that doesn't help me for Y-line research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmarjoribanks View Post
    I came here to ask what the Origins thing referred to, and this thread helpfully answered my questions. I agree with the above, though.

    My dad has only one BigY match, and it's more relevant that the match is in England and English as far back as he knows (not that far, however), and that my dad's patrilineal line is also in England as of the 1700s.

    It's not that relevant that they average:

    69% British Isles
    13.5% West and Central Europe
    7% Scandinavia
    7% East Europe
    2% South Europe
    1% Other

    Since there are only two of them, this does let me see that my dad's English match is apparently:

    63% British Isles
    27% West and Central Europe
    10% Scandinavia

    But that doesn't help me for Y-line research.
    We need more granular breakdowns to get much use of this... but I am pretty sure they will have to deliver this.
    I have seen pretty cool cases of origins that differentiate but those cases were not British Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    Is there anyway to find out who one of your block mates are? Including myself there are seven of us on the FGC23196 block. 5 of us are on further downstream blocks. Two kits are still at the parent block. One kit has a French flag, this person I have communicated with. The second kit has an Italian flag. I never knew of this kit as they are not in the DF27 project nor have they submitted their results to Yfull or the Big Tree. As there anyway to find out who they are?
    I take it you have not seen this person on any of your Y111 (down to Y12) matching displays? The haplogroup labels show up on the matching displays.
    Another thing to do is just an internet search on "FTDNA R-FGC23196" or a couple of variations. Make sure to use the lead haplogroup label for the block that FTDNA uses.
    I checked and they do use that label.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ame=R-FGC23196

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