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    Big Y Block Tree view

    An email just got sent out to FTDNA admins that a Block Tree visualization of the tree is now available on kits with Big Y results. It looks...familiar, to say the least. (Edit - I didn't catch that the Big Tree is cited at the bottom of the page as the inspiration for the layout used, so that's good to see.)

    As a haplogroup project admin, it makes it (marginally) easier for me to see how many kits sort into paragroups currently in the FTDNA database and would be good candidates to find, have them join relevant projects, contact their matches, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swid View Post
    An email just got sent out to FTDNA admins that a Block Tree visualization of the tree is now available on kits with Big Y results. It looks...familiar, to say the least. (Edit - I didn't catch that the Big Tree is cited at the bottom of the page as the inspiration for the layout used, so that's good to see.)

    As a haplogroup project admin, it makes it (marginally) easier for me to see how many kits sort into paragroups currently in the FTDNA database and would be good candidates to find, have them join relevant projects, contact their matches, etc.
    I recently saw this new feature today on my FTDNA page. It's quite familiar indeed, but I find it very useful to better visualize exactly where my Big Y matches and close STR matches branch off from the common ancestral root. It's quite helpful.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    I like it a lot but recognized right away how similar it is to Alex Williamson's Big Tree, and, of course, FTDNA gives Alex credit at the bottom of the page.

    It's a good deal and should be nice for checking periodically to see if any newbies have shown up anyplace that could be significant.
     


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    It's a helpful tool to keep my matches in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonardo View Post
    It's a helpful tool to keep my matches in perspective.
    Indeed. It nicely places me independent and quite separate from my closest Big Y matches who are oddly grouped with me on the same "branch" on my Big Y matches page.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    I like how it lists the average private variants for each subclade (prior this was only possible with matches). This gives me a general idea about the average SNP mutation rates and possible ages for relevant subclades.

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    I don't have Big Y myself, but I've seen a few screenshots and it looks like a nice feature. Roberta Estes has a blog here https://dna-explained.com/2019/01/24...-y-block-tree/ and there's a section in the FTDNA Learning Center here https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/...1wJYm1sgFp25KM

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    I do not understand how they got the % in your SNP

    I have only 2 on my SNP .......... 1 England and 1 Italian...yet I get

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    27% SE-Europe
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    all these areas for only 2 people ?...............or am I reading it wrong somewhere

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    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    I like how it lists the average private variants for each subclade (prior this was only possible with matches). This gives me a general idea about the average SNP mutation rates and possible ages for relevant subclades.
    But you don't know how many of them are in the regions used for age calculations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    I don't have Big Y myself, but I've seen a few screenshots and it looks like a nice feature. Roberta Estes has a blog here https://dna-explained.com/2019/01/24...-y-block-tree/ and there's a section in the FTDNA Learning Center here https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/...1wJYm1sgFp25KM
    Roberta Estes in her blog about the tree provided a perfect example of how NOT to use the SNP information to estimate ages/SNP. She didn't even touch on what the basis is for age estimations in terms of WHICH snps are counted. Now all of less knowledgeable people in the community who follow her blog will go off and generate/utilize incorrect year/SNP estimates. Yet another informational flub by Estes.

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