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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesKane View Post
    The most interesting thing for most though is this:
    Deep Ancestry
    We sequence your entire Y chromosome (Y-DNA) and your mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA).
    In partnership with FamilyTreeDNA, we give you access to the world’s largest Y-DNA and mtDNA databases, enable you to trace your paternal and maternal ancestry and connect with your relatives.
    This is definitely something I would like to see clarified in more detail by Nebula and/or FTDNA. If this is essentially having your raw data processed by FTDNA into a "pseudo-Big Y-700" (perhaps for a fee) then the prospect of having access to a previously exclusive database which is larger than YFull is very tantalising.
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    * MGMs MGF: R1a-Z93 > Y7 - ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    This is definitely something I would like to see clarified in more detail by Nebula and/or FTDNA. If this is essentially having your raw data processed by FTDNA into a "pseudo-Big Y-700" (perhaps for a fee) then the prospect of having access to a previously exclusive database which is larger than YFull is very tantalising.
    It raises all sorts of questions though like
    * is it OPT-IN basis only
    * will FTDNA start adding SNPs they have seen to their tree even if you don't approve a transfer (or don't get asked permission)
    * does this mean anyone who buys from Nebula is automatically submitted to FBI searches even if they live outside the US and covered by GDPR or equivalent legislation
    * why would anyone buy BY unless they reduce it to about USD150, I mean firms like Dante and Nebula are giving you not only your whole genome but an actual BAM file, that in itself is worth USD100 in FTDNA terms
    * is ftdna going to launch its own dirt cheap wgs and retire the BY?
    * is this a precursor or trial for a generic WGS import?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacUalraig View Post
    It raises all sorts of questions though like
    * is it OPT-IN basis only
    * will FTDNA start adding SNPs they have seen to their tree even if you don't approve a transfer (or don't get asked permission)
    * does this mean anyone who buys from Nebula is automatically submitted to FBI searches even if they live outside the US and covered by GDPR or equivalent legislation
    * why would anyone buy BY unless they reduce it to about USD150, I mean firms like Dante and Nebula are giving you not only your whole genome but an actual BAM file, that in itself is worth USD100 in FTDNA terms
    * is ftdna going to launch its own dirt cheap wgs and retire the BY?
    * is this a precursor or trial for a generic WGS import?
    I would like to see a little more clarity on how their relationship with FT is actually going to work. I can only imagine there are going to be fees involved to make it worth while for FT. While not under cutting their own product. As the statements have been a little vague, I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Any idea if they'll switch to FTDNA myorigins for their autosomal test? It's not great but it seems better than the one they were using last i checked from gene plaza or whatever. can't remember exactly but Digital Noise got results from them.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, Eastern German 12.5%, Eastern European (Likely Polish possibly including Romanian) 12.5%, French 7.81%, Native American (Saulteaux and Assiniboine) 2.34%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be traced with certainty. With certainty, there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English.

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    It raises all sorts of questions though like
    * is it OPT-IN basis only
    * will FTDNA start adding SNPs they have seen to their tree even if you don't approve a transfer (or don't get asked permission)
    * does this mean anyone who buys from Nebula is automatically submitted to FBI searches even if they live outside the US and covered by GDPR or equivalent legislation
    * why would anyone buy BY unless they reduce it to about USD150, I mean firms like Dante and Nebula are giving you not only your whole genome but an actual BAM file, that in itself is worth USD100 in FTDNA terms
    * is ftdna going to launch its own dirt cheap wgs and retire the BY?
    * is this a precursor or trial for a generic WGS import?
    * is it OPT-IN basis only
    Yes.
    * will FTDNA start adding SNPs they have seen to their tree even if you don't approve a transfer (or don't get asked permission)
    No.
    * does this mean anyone who buys from Nebula is automatically submitted to FBI searches even if they live outside the US and covered by GDPR or equivalent legislation
    No. First, data transfer is opt-in, second your data is anonymized and hence useless to law enforcement.
    * is ftdna going to launch its own dirt cheap wgs and retire the BY?
    I can't comment on FTDNA's future plans, but in the near term Nebula Genomics is going to be FTDNA's partner for 30x WGS.
    Last edited by kobbad; 02-26-2020 at 03:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronbee2010 View Post
    This is definitely something I would like to see clarified in more detail by Nebula and/or FTDNA. If this is essentially having your raw data processed by FTDNA into a "pseudo-Big Y-700" (perhaps for a fee) then the prospect of having access to a previously exclusive database which is larger than YFull is very tantalising.
    Yes, that's exactly what it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesKane View Post
    It’s a 30x WGS. You have the raw data for most anything you would ever want to know.

    The most interesting thing for most though is this:
    Thank you! Once you have your results, I will order mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Any idea if they'll switch to FTDNA myorigins for their autosomal test? It's not great but it seems better than the one they were using last i checked from gene plaza or whatever. can't remember exactly but Digital Noise got results from them.
    Its what was once Gencove.
    Their website is broken. I cannot access my ancestry report. Its just blank. Ive had this issue since I did the test, or shortly thereafter. Safari doesnt work, Firefox, Microsoft Edge or Chrome either.
    Last edited by digital_noise; 02-26-2020 at 05:42 AM.
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobbad View Post
    * is it OPT-IN basis only
    Yes.
    * will FTDNA start adding SNPs they have seen to their tree even if you don't approve a transfer (or don't get asked permission)
    [B]No.
    FTDNA illegally acquired customer DNA from DNA Heritage without their permission, including mine.
    YSEQ:#37; YFull: YF01405 (Y Elite 2013)
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    Just received this email from Nebula today, March 4th.

    Your Kit Has Been Received!

    Thanks for registering and sending in your sample -- it has been successfully received at our lab. Once the sequencing is complete, you will receive an email indicating that your results are ready. This process generally takes about 8 weeks.

    We shall see!
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