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Thread: Southeast Europe/Balkans: From Neolithic to Modern times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirm View Post
    What about the shift in y axis?
    Good point, but it doesn't really matter. If you want to visualise the y change as well, then you'll just put the origin at the Slavic end Northwest in the middle of that cluster and the other end Southeast in the middle of the Bronze Age cluster. The segment will have the same length anyway. So the result won't change.
    Checking with Global 25 outputs a similar estimate.

    Here's a rough sketch

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    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    There was a change from the Bronze Age to the Roman era.

    Perhaps in the southeast of the Pannonian basin there was a population that is a mixture of the East Hungary Iron Age, the Moldovan Iron Age and the Croatian Bronze Age
    Last edited by Sirm; 01-30-2019 at 03:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirm View Post
    There was a change from the Bronze Age to the Roman era.

    Perhaps in the southeast of the Pannonian basin there was a population that is a mixture of the East Hungary Iron Age, the Moldovan Iron Age and the Croatian Bronze Age
    Anything flies really, this model is just a guess until we get more relevant data.
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    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    [1] "distance%=1.8428"


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    Slavic_Migration Period,80.4
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    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    Very good graph OP, that's exactly how I imagined it.
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