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Thread: Model for seeing if you have Longobards? G25

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    I do think some people in the British Isles record some Eastern European in their results, I record it as do many of my matches.

    I also have recorded some Indian or Middle Eastern Dna, supposedly. I have been told this is all ancient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I do think some people in the British Isles record some Eastern European in their results, I record it as do many of my matches.

    I also have recorded some Indian or Middle Eastern Dna, supposedly. I have been told this is all ancient.
    Well my point is that itís impossible to tell and most people cannot accurately estimate their genetic heritage even over the last 300 years.

    I donít even know who all my fourth great grandparents were, let alone exactly how much immigration affected or didnít affect the areas they lived.

    I know I am English and Irish so I can understand why Iíd plot near other English and Irish people and get majority British on commercial tests. But to claim Iím not just English and Irish but all English and Irish would be a guess.

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    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 2.5976% / 0.02597563

    65.6 IBERIAN
    20.0 ISLES-CELTIC
    10.4 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC
    4.0 LEVANT


    One Iberian reference , or maybe better call it "Iberian":

    Distance to: IBERIAN:FN_2
    0.00000000 DEU_Roman
    0.02739174 CHE_IA

    I am not from Eastern Iberia, sorry:

     
    Distance to: IBERIAN:FN_2
    0.02156545 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02346295 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.02403037 Spanish_Baleares
    0.02427525 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    0.02434128 Spanish_Castello
    0.02533252 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.02537786 Spanish_Penedes
    0.02581898 Spanish_Menorca
    0.02598522 Spanish_Lleida
    0.02602720 Spanish_Girona
    0.02657032 Spanish_Cataluna
    0.02676356 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.02700920 Spanish_Barcelones
    0.02766374 Spanish_Murcia
    0.02891308 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02908718 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.03013156 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.03077220 French_Auvergne
    0.03080841 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    0.03121260 Spanish_Alacant
    0.03128334 Spanish_Aragon
    0.03130138 Spanish_Eivissa
    0.03196777 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03207226 Swiss_French
    0.03208990 Spanish_La_Rioja
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    it's meh for me-- but it's not surprising as it isn't really for my genetic profile

    Target: Luso_scaled
    Distance: 3.6631% / 0.03663067
    35.4 IBERIAN
    34.0 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC
    14.8 LEVANT
    7.6 LONGOBARD
    5.6 ISLES-CELTIC
    2.6 NORTH-URALIC
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    Maternal Lineage: H1c3: Estrela de Monchique- em Silves, Portugal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    it's meh for me

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    You are 35.4 Catalonian!!!

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    Target: Michael_scaled
    Distance: 1.5543% / 0.01554305
    37.0 LONGOBARD
    35.0 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC
    8.6 ISLES-CELTIC
    7.4 SLAVIC
    6.4 SOUTH-GERMANIC
    5.6 BALTIC

    Distance to: Michael_scaled
    0.03130164 LONGOBARD:SZ4
    0.03158228 LONGOBARD:SZ2
    0.03307218 LONGOBARD:CL145
    0.03427858 LONGOBARD:CL92
    0.03468789 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT3
    0.03478714 ANGLO-SAXON:O3-I0774
    0.03573547 ISLES-CELTIC:3DT16
    0.03742253 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT23
    0.03778615 LONGOBARD:SZ7
    0.03793141 LONGOBARD:CL146
    0.03830956 SOUTH-GERMANIC:STR_486
    0.03869310 ANGLO-SAXON:NO3423
    0.03883882 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL63
    0.03885843 LONGOBARD:SZ12
    0.03941073 LONGOBARD:CL84
    0.04001941 LONGOBARD:CL151
    0.04006419 LONGOBARD:SZ16
    0.04016818 SOUTH-GERMANIC:STR_220
    0.04074438 NORTH-GERMANIC:AED_249
    0.04106120 ANGLO-SAXON:HS2-I0159
    0.04111396 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT22
    0.04285143 LONGOBARD:SZ13
    0.04287665 ANGLO-SAXON:HS1-I0157
    0.04371094 LONGOBARD:SZ11
    0.04396410 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ14
    0.04414141 SOUTH-GERMANIC:ALH_1
    0.04418863 SOUTH-GERMANIC:STR_316
    0.04507874 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT18
    0.04593239 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ23
    0.04609213 LONGOBARD:SZ9
    0.04622725 ANGLO-SAXON:HS3-I0161
    0.04868916 LONGOBARD:SZ22
    0.04880834 SLAVIC:Av1
    0.05064481 ANGLO-SAXON:O2-I0773
    0.05132692 ANGLO-SAXON:O4-I0777
    0.05404551 SOUTH-GERMANIC:BIM_33
    0.05426690 SLAVIC:RISE569
    0.05537767 ANGLO-SAXON:O1-I0769
    0.05593643 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL87
    0.05708727 NORTH-GERMANICA236
    0.05739530 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL47
    0.05761814 ANGLO-SAXON:STR_355
    0.06076928 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ45
    0.06165812 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL57
    0.06199508 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL102
    0.06241271 NORTH-GERMANIC:AED_106
    0.06474035 NORTH-GERMANIC:JK2065
    0.06544776 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ3
    0.06595312 ILLYRIAN:STR_228
    0.06702271 SLAVIC:Av2
    Known ancestry: 92.6% German (66.8% North German), 4.7% Danish, 1.8% Czech, 0.8% Austrian, 0.1% Swiss.
    EUROGENES K13: N German, N Dutch, DNK, SWE, NOR. Ancestry: Germanic 75%, Sweden 13%, Norway 11%, Baltic 1%. LM: NOR, DNK, NLD, N-DEU, SWE.
    23andMe: NW Europe 82.5% (French/German 50.2%, Scandinavian 9.1%, British/Irish 3.2%), East Europe 11.5%, South Europe 1.5%. DNAL: NW Euro 81%, NE Euro 11%, Med 6.5%
    Y-DNA: R1b/U152/Z36/CTS4333, Thuringia 1634, probably Alsace 1552, -- mt-DNA: H

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    grandma

    Target: boilermeschew827grandma_scaled
    Distance: 1.9559% / 0.01955875
    49.2 IBERIAN
    28.6 ISLES-CELTIC
    18.4 LONGOBARD
    2.4 ILLYRIAN
    1.0 SOUTH-GERMANIC
    0.4 LEVANT

    Distance to: boilermeschew827grandma_scaled
    0.03383608 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ45
    0.03865267 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL102
    0.03912930 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL87
    0.03922053 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL63
    0.04034870 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ23
    0.04110380 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL94
    0.04295854 IBERIAN:FN_2
    0.04378856 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT22
    0.04471401 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ14
    0.04672500 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL47
    0.04717610 LONGOBARD:CL84
    0.04721790 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT18
    0.04851147 PANNONIAN:SZ27
    0.04904270 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:SZ3
    0.04930898 ISLES-CELTIC:3DT16
    0.04933039 ANGLO-SAXON:HS3-I0161
    0.04985653 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC:CL57
    0.05140901 ANGLO-SAXON:O3-I0774
    0.05298452 SOUTH-GERMANIC:ALH_1
    0.05323064 ANGLO-SAXON:O4-I0777
    0.05335139 LONGOBARD:SZ12
    0.05342867 SOUTH-GERMANIC:STR_220
    0.05424518 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT23
    0.05522659 LONGOBARD:SZ11
    0.05681665 ANGLO-SAXON:HS2-I0159

    myself

    Target: boilermeschew827_scaled
    Distance: 1.3528% / 0.01352811
    39.4 SLAVIC
    22.4 SOUTH-GERMANIC
    19.0 NORTH-GERMANIC
    9.0 ANGLO-SAXON
    3.2 BALTIC
    2.8 IBERIAN
    2.2 NORTH-URALIC
    1.8 TURKISH
    0.2 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC


    Distance to: boilermeschew827_scaled
    0.03311836 SLAVIC:Av1
    0.03531412 SOUTH-GERMANIC:ALH_1
    0.03596251 LONGOBARD:SZ12
    0.03797103 LONGOBARD:SZ22
    0.03803473 SOUTH-GERMANIC:STR_220
    0.03863911 ANGLO-SAXON:O3-I0774
    0.03936974 LONGOBARD:SZ16
    0.03989651 LONGOBARD:SZ11
    0.04031616 LONGOBARD:SZ7
    0.04220798 LONGOBARD:SZ13
    0.04231869 LONGOBARD:CL146
    0.04283859 ANGLO-SAXON:O2-I0773
    0.04312778 ANGLO-SAXON:HS3-I0161
    0.04356794 LONGOBARD:CL92
    0.04394401 ANGLO-SAXON:NO3423
    0.04395934 ANGLO-SAXON:HS2-I0159
    0.04412434 LONGOBARD:CL84
    0.04416108 LONGOBARD:SZ9
    0.04436684 SLAVIC:RISE569
    0.04463777 ANGLO-SAXON:O4-I0777
    0.04530923 ISLES-CELTIC:6DT22
    0.04539496 ISLES-CELTIC:3DT16
    0.04552029 NORTH-GERMANIC:AED_249
    0.04620078 NORTH-GERMANICA236
    0.04651651 LONGOBARD:SZ2
    Known Ancestry: NW Russian 25%, Central French 25%, North German 25%, Scandinavian (mostly Dane/Swede, distant Norwegian) 12.5%, Polish/Prussian 12.5%

    AncestryDNA (2020 update): Eastern European and Russia 33%, Germanic Europe 32%, Sweden 10%, Norway 7%, Baltics 7%, France 5%, Scotland 4%, Finland 1%, Malta 1%

    23andMe (v5.9): French and German 41.1%, Eastern European 38%, Scandinavian 8%, Finnish 1.6%, British and Irish 0.8%, BNWE 10.2%, North African 0.2%, Broadly European 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by lana6765 View Post
    Well my point is that itís impossible to tell and most people cannot accurately estimate their genetic heritage even over the last 300 years.

    I donít even know who all my fourth great grandparents were, let alone exactly how much immigration affected or didnít affect the areas they lived.

    I know I am English and Irish so I can understand why Iíd plot near other English and Irish people and get majority British on commercial tests. But to claim Iím not just English and Irish but all English and Irish would be a guess.
    Definitely, I think the lack of Irish records gives your point more merit.

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    Distance: 4.1106% / 0.04110611
    53.6 IBERIAN
    32.4 ISLES-CELTIC
    13.8 LEVANT
    0.2 CONTINENTAL-CELTIC

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    I got interested in Longobards. From mytrueancestry there is:

    470 anglo saxon oakington
    500 alemannic bavaria
    550 visigoth germanic girona / visigoth frankish girona
    590 frankish hungary
    590 nordic lombard
    590 germanic lombard
    605 young merovingian noble

    Our families are from Hesse, in the middle of Germany, nothing known about marriages from afar or so.
    My cousin researched a family tree (from church chronicles etc) that goes back to around 1700.

    Very early on there is a female with the name "LONGARD" - which sounds a bit like langobard/lombard ?
    This last name is basically unheard here.

    Near our village, there is an area ("ancient" settlement) called "Winnau", nothing to find there anymore faik - but it sounds a bit like "Winniler" ?
    Last edited by mri; 06-20-2021 at 05:52 PM.

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