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    How accurate is GEDmatch really?

    Is GEDmatch that accurate? I've seen people plot either south or north of there ethnicity, but autosomal results suggest otherwise.

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    Depends on calculator and raw-data.

    My 23andme V5 is worse than the V3 for example.
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    Dodecad K12b
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    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

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    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
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    Mostly inaccurate.

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    Gedmatch is useful to help orient one's self and get a "lay of the land", so to speak. However, the calculators are severely outdated given the breadth of new data.
    It is the best way for a newcomer to glean more detail and understanding from the raw data received from commercial companies that provide generic and broad ethnicity/ancestral breakdowns. It is also useful in intra-ethnic comparisons -- ie. while the percentages shown may not be entirely accurate, outliers or those with "pulls" and "shifts" away from the centroid of an ethnic average can be ascertained. While the component breakdowns and percentages assigned need an urgent update, we can continually make new oracle files for any given calculator and refine that aspect of a Gedmatch-based calculator.

    In short, it has its pros and cons. For a beginner, I believe it is invaluable; while for a more seasoned hobbyist, it is becoming increasingly less relevant.

    Should updated ADMIXTURE calculators be developed or support for newer autosomal analysis methods be established, the usefulness could of Gedmatch could alter substantially for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Depends on calculator and raw-data.

    My 23andme V5 is worse than the V3 for example.
    Same but I still think both don't show the full picture. Calcs are very outdated.

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    I generally find it to be good, I mean there are some wild hairs (93.9% English and 6.1% Lezgin a best fit? Really?) but more or less I find it to be accurate for me.

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    23andme matches dont make sense some times. Others like FTDNA, MyHeritage, Ancestry, LivingDNA etc.. look better in terms of possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenetiks View Post
    Same but I still think both don't show the full picture. Calcs are very outdated.
    Yes. Outdated. But in some calculators you got very good accurate results. But in most its totally wrong.

    I still use it. But prefer G25 scales on nMonte and Poi's K36 Calculator.
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    Dodecad K12b
    1. 87,89% Szolad3 + 12,11% CHV001_Chalmny_Varre_18th-19th @ 1,131
    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
    55.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse
    36.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    8.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA2


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    Quote Originally Posted by khanabadoshi View Post
    Gedmatch is useful to help orient one's self and get a "lay of the land", so to speak. However, the calculators are severely outdated given the breadth of new data.
    It is the best way for a newcomer to glean more detail and understanding from the raw data received from commercial companies that provide generic and broad ethnicity/ancestral breakdowns.
    It is also useful in intra-ethnic comparisons -- ie. while the percentages shown may not be entirely accurate, outliers or those with "pulls" and "shifts" away from the centroid of an ethnic average can be ascertained.
    While the component breakdowns and percentages assigned need an urgent update, we can continually make new oracle files for any given calculator and refine that aspect of a Gedmatch-based calculator.

    In short, it has its pros and cons. For a beginner, I believe it is invaluable, while for a more seasoned hobbyist, it is becoming increasingly less relevant.


    Should updated ADMIXTURE calculators be developed or support for newer autosomal analysis methods be established, the usefulness could of Gedmatch could alter substantially for everyone.
    GEDmatch /Genesis is suppose to be using a new algorithm for their admixtures. A beta version in my view was tried last May 2018, but it has since defaulted to the old GEDmatch data. maybe if and when they re-establish this new admixture algorithm the results would sharpen up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    GEDmatch /Genesis is suppose to be using a new algorithm for their admixtures. A beta version in my view was tried last May 2018, but it has since defaulted to the old GEDmatch data. maybe if and when they re-establish this new admixture algorithm the results would sharpen up a bit.
    can you provide a source this? For as far as I have been using GedMatch and Genesis the results are identical
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


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