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    1700s Colonial American on GEDmatch

    I uploaded him on GEDmatch thinking it was a Native sample, but the results are European.

    Then I checked in Supplementary Figures and the population label is "Colonist", so correct.

    Shohola Creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dating 269 ± 26 years ago

    Y-DNA haplogroup - I1a-Z73
    mtDNA haplogroup - U4c1a

    GEDmatch kit number - DD7536671

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 38.26
    2 Atlantic 22.47
    3 Baltic 13.93
    4 Eastern_Euro 8.83
    5 West_Med 6.92
    6 West_Asian 4.4
    7 East_Med 2.36
    8 Amerindian 1.54
    9 Red_Sea 0.74
    10 Oceanian 0.54

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Swedish 3.81
    2 Norwegian 3.91
    3 North_Dutch 4.67
    4 West_Norwegian 5.27
    5 Danish 5.92
    6 North_German 6.57
    7 West_German 7.2
    8 North_Swedish 7.75
    9 Irish 7.84
    10 Orcadian 7.84
    11 West_Scottish 7.87
    12 Southeast_English 8.01
    13 Southwest_English 8.4
    14 South_Dutch 9.89
    15 East_German 11.81
    16 Southwest_Finnish 13.72
    17 French 13.89
    18 Hungarian 15.16
    19 Finnish 16.06
    20 Austrian 16.78

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.7% Swedish + 31.3% West_German @ 2.17
    2 83.5% West_Norwegian + 16.5% Romanian @ 2.42
    3 85.1% West_Norwegian + 14.9% Bulgarian @ 2.43
    4 82.7% Swedish + 17.3% French @ 2.51
    5 91.4% Swedish + 8.6% Tuscan @ 2.56
    6 90.4% Swedish + 9.6% North_Italian @ 2.59
    7 92.4% Swedish + 7.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.61
    8 93.4% Swedish + 6.6% South_Italian @ 2.63
    9 93.2% Swedish + 6.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.69
    10 93.1% Swedish + 6.9% Central_Greek @ 2.69
    11 95% Norwegian + 5% Armenian @ 2.7
    12 89.4% Swedish + 10.6% Portuguese @ 2.7
    13 87.2% West_Norwegian + 12.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
    14 76.7% West_Norwegian + 23.3% Hungarian @ 2.7
    15 88.8% Swedish + 11.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.71
    16 90.1% Swedish + 9.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.71
    17 94.1% Swedish + 5.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.73
    18 95.1% Norwegian + 4.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.73
    19 93% Swedish + 7% West_Sicilian @ 2.73
    20 92.9% Norwegian + 7.1% Central_Greek @ 2.73

    Eurogenes K36:

    41057 SNPs used in this evaluation

    Population
    Amerindian 1.18 Pct
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.65 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 9.24 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 6.39 Pct
    Fennoscandian 10.90 Pct
    French 8.31 Pct
    Iberian 2.62 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 10.33 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 21.64 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.98 Pct
    North_Sea 17.00 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 2.77 Pct
    West_Med -

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    At first glance he looks like a mix of Swedish and British. There were Swedes in Pennsylvania, so it is not impossible:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden

    "Settlements were established on both sides of the Delaware Valley in the present-day American Mid-Atlantic states of Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, often in places where Swedish traders had been visiting since about 1610.[2] Fort Christina, now part of Wilmington, Delaware, was the first settlement, named after the reigning Swedish monarch, the sole daughter of Gustavus Adolphus. Along with Swedes and Finns, a number of the settlers were Dutch. New Sweden was conquered by the Dutch Republic in 1655, during the Second Northern War, and incorporated into the Dutch colony of New Netherland."



    BTW, unsurprisingly he had some Amerindian admixture (over 1% Amerindian in K36). Colonials mixed with Indians.

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    Edit:

    Could be also mixed with Pennsylvania Germans.

    Eurogenes K15:

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 3.083326

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +25% Swedish +25% West_German @ 2.317782

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 North_Dutch + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.307963
    2 Swedish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.317782
    3 Swedish + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.377190
    4 Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.401718
    5 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Swedish + West_German @ 2.676972
    6 Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish + West_German @ 2.706337
    7 North_Dutch + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.723687
    8 Norwegian + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.749193
    9 Danish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.783258
    10 Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.806272
    11 North_German + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.818307
    12 North_German + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.873340
    13 Irish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.907369
    14 Hungarian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.950081
    15 Swedish + Swedish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.960523
    16 Hungarian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.968402
    17 Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.994252
    18 French + Swedish + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.005715
    19 South_Dutch + Swedish + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.070903
    20 Hungarian + North_Dutch + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.074009

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    I double-checked and he scores some Amerindian (specifically North-Amerind) in K47 calc.

    Let's take a look at his World 22 results too (the best calc for Amerindians on GEDmatch):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 43.39
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.17
    3 West-Asian 8.8
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 7.71
    5 North-Amerind 3
    6 Melanesian 1.97
    7 Indo-Iranian 1.55
    8 Near_East 1.41

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 CEU (derived) 7.77
    2 German_V (derived) 7.94
    3 German-South (derived) 8.19
    4 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.43
    5 CEU_V (derived) 8.44
    6 British (derived) 8.7
    7 Austrian (derived) 8.91
    8 Welsh (derived) 9.21
    9 Serbian (derived) 9.66
    10 Hungarian (derived) 9.72
    11 Orcadian (derived) 9.86
    12 German (derived) 10.46
    13 Swedish (derived) 10.89
    14 Montenegrin (derived) 10.9
    15 Bosnian (derived) 11.11
    16 German-North (derived) 11.3
    17 Croatian (derived) 11.37
    18 Macedonian (derived) 11.63
    19 Slovenian (derived) 11.73
    20 Swiss (derived) 12.46

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.9% Cirkassian (derived) @ 3.98
    2 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Adygei (derived) @ 4.07
    3 85.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.1% Balkarian (derived) @ 4.11
    4 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Georgian (derived) @ 4.12
    5 87% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13% NorthOssetian (derived) @ 4.14
    6 86.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.8% Kumyk (derived) @ 4.15
    7 86.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.8% Kabardinian (derived) @ 4.15
    8 80.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 19.8% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 4.2
    9 89.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 10.5% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 4.23
    10 88.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.3% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 4.24
    11 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Azeri (derived) @ 4.24
    12 87.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.3% Ossetian (derived) @ 4.26
    13 82.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 17.4% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 4.26
    14 86.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.1% Chechen (derived) @ 4.27
    15 89.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 10.6% Abhkasian (derived) @ 4.28
    16 86.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.7% Turk (derived) @ 4.31
    17 88.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.6% Armenian (derived) @ 4.34
    18 88.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.8% Kurd (derived) @ 4.36
    19 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Lezgin (derived) @ 4.41
    20 88.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.4% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 4.45
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    His results in MDLP K23b:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 37.97
    2 European_Early_Farmers 25.59
    3 Caucasian 23.39
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.29
    5 South_Central_Asian 5.45
    6 Amerindian 0.54
    7 African_Pygmy 0.4
    8 Archaic_African 0.37

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Dutch ( ) 3.05
    2 German-Volga ( ) 3.89
    3 Frisian ( ) 4.01
    4 South_German ( ) 4.41
    5 Belgian ( ) 4.54
    6 North_German ( ) 4.86
    7 Irish ( ) 5.79
    8 Dane ( ) 6.24
    9 English ( ) 6.61
    10 Swede ( ) 7.12
    11 Norwegian_East ( ) 8.07
    12 North_European ( ) 8.38
    13 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 8.8
    14 Austrian ( ) 8.81
    15 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.22
    16 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 9.77
    17 CEU ( ) 10.47
    18 German_East ( ) 10.65
    19 British ( ) 10.91
    20 Norwegian_West ( ) 11.04

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Frisian ( ) + 14.2% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 1.52
    2 85.5% Frisian ( ) + 14.5% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 1.54
    3 86% Frisian ( ) + 14% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 1.57
    4 84% Frisian ( ) + 16% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 1.58
    5 85.9% Frisian ( ) + 14.1% Russian_South ( ) @ 1.61
    6 85.4% Frisian ( ) + 14.6% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 1.64
    7 86.7% Frisian ( ) + 13.3% Ukrainian ( ) @ 1.65
    8 81.4% Frisian ( ) + 18.6% Slovak ( ) @ 1.67
    9 87.2% Frisian ( ) + 12.8% Pole ( ) @ 1.67
    10 88.2% Frisian ( ) + 11.8% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 1.68
    11 88.2% Frisian ( ) + 11.8% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 1.68
    12 81.7% Frisian ( ) + 18.3% Kashub ( ) @ 1.69
    13 85.1% Frisian ( ) + 14.9% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.7
    14 86.8% Frisian ( ) + 13.2% Don_cossack ( ) @ 1.7
    15 88% Norwegian_West ( ) + 12% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 1.7
    16 87.7% Frisian ( ) + 12.3% Belarusian ( ) @ 1.74
    17 87.8% Frisian ( ) + 12.2% Mordovian ( ) @ 1.75
    18 83.2% Frisian ( ) + 16.8% Sorb ( ) @ 1.76
    19 85.3% Frisian ( ) + 14.7% Russian_North ( ) @ 1.79
    20 80.8% Frisian ( ) + 19.2% Czech ( ) @ 1.81

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    His Amerindian percentages in K36 by chromosome:

    Chr1 - 1.5%
    Chr2 - 0%
    Chr3 - 2.3%
    Chr4 - 4.4%
    Chr5 - 1.2%
    Chr6 - 3.9%
    Chr7 - 0%
    Chr8 - 3.8%
    Chr9 - 0%
    Chr10 - 0%
    Chr11 - 0%
    Chr12 - 3.2%
    Chr13 - 0%
    Chr14 - 0%
    Chr15 - 0%
    Chr16 - 0%
    Chr17 - 10.2%
    Chr18 - 0%
    Chr19 - 0%
    Chr20 - 0%
    Chr21 - 0%
    Chr22 - 1.0%

    ^ That is a lot of Amerindian on 17th chromosome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    His Amerindian percentages in K36 by chromosome:

    Chr1 - 1.5%
    Chr2 - 0%
    Chr3 - 2.3%
    Chr4 - 4.4%
    Chr5 - 1.2%
    Chr6 - 3.9%
    Chr7 - 0%
    Chr8 - 3.8%
    Chr9 - 0%
    Chr10 - 0%
    Chr11 - 0%
    Chr12 - 3.2%
    Chr13 - 0%
    Chr14 - 0%
    Chr15 - 0%
    Chr16 - 0%
    Chr17 - 10.2%
    Chr18 - 0%
    Chr19 - 0%
    Chr20 - 0%
    Chr21 - 0%
    Chr22 - 1.0%

    ^ That is a lot of Amerindian on 17th chromosome!
    As a point of comparison I have

    Chr 4 - 14.7%
    5 - 5.2%
    10 - 2%
    11 - 2.2%
    12 - 1.1%
    16 - 0.8%
    17 - 6.3%
    18 - 0.4%
    19 - 8.1%
    21 - 3.2%

    I'm only around 2% on my paper trail and commercial tests consistently assign me between 1.5-2.5% indicating 2% is indeed correct. This individual appears to have less than I do
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    I will upload him to DNA Land and MyHeritage probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I uploaded him on GEDmatch thinking it was a Native sample, but the results are European.

    Then I checked in Supplementary Figures and the population label is "Colonist", so correct.

    Shohola Creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania, dating 269 ± 26 years ago

    Y-DNA haplogroup - I1a-Z73
    mtDNA haplogroup - U4c1a

    GEDmatch kit number - DD7536671

    Y-DNA haplogroup -

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 38.26
    2 Atlantic 22.47
    3 Baltic 13.93
    4 Eastern_Euro 8.83
    5 West_Med 6.92
    6 West_Asian 4.4
    7 East_Med 2.36
    8 Amerindian 1.54
    9 Red_Sea 0.74
    10 Oceanian 0.54

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Swedish 3.81
    2 Norwegian 3.91
    3 North_Dutch 4.67
    4 West_Norwegian 5.27
    5 Danish 5.92
    6 North_German 6.57
    7 West_German 7.2
    8 North_Swedish 7.75
    9 Irish 7.84
    10 Orcadian 7.84
    11 West_Scottish 7.87
    12 Southeast_English 8.01
    13 Southwest_English 8.4
    14 South_Dutch 9.89
    15 East_German 11.81
    16 Southwest_Finnish 13.72
    17 French 13.89
    18 Hungarian 15.16
    19 Finnish 16.06
    20 Austrian 16.78

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.7% Swedish + 31.3% West_German @ 2.17
    2 83.5% West_Norwegian + 16.5% Romanian @ 2.42
    3 85.1% West_Norwegian + 14.9% Bulgarian @ 2.43
    4 82.7% Swedish + 17.3% French @ 2.51
    5 91.4% Swedish + 8.6% Tuscan @ 2.56
    6 90.4% Swedish + 9.6% North_Italian @ 2.59
    7 92.4% Swedish + 7.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.61
    8 93.4% Swedish + 6.6% South_Italian @ 2.63
    9 93.2% Swedish + 6.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.69
    10 93.1% Swedish + 6.9% Central_Greek @ 2.69
    11 95% Norwegian + 5% Armenian @ 2.7
    12 89.4% Swedish + 10.6% Portuguese @ 2.7
    13 87.2% West_Norwegian + 12.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
    14 76.7% West_Norwegian + 23.3% Hungarian @ 2.7
    15 88.8% Swedish + 11.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.71
    16 90.1% Swedish + 9.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.71
    17 94.1% Swedish + 5.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.73
    18 95.1% Norwegian + 4.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.73
    19 93% Swedish + 7% West_Sicilian @ 2.73
    20 92.9% Norwegian + 7.1% Central_Greek @ 2.73

    Eurogenes K36:

    41057 SNPs used in this evaluation

    Population
    Amerindian 1.18 Pct
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.65 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 9.24 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 6.39 Pct
    Fennoscandian 10.90 Pct
    French 8.31 Pct
    Iberian 2.62 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 10.33 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 21.64 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.98 Pct
    North_Sea 17.00 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 2.77 Pct
    West_Med -

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    At first glance he looks like a mix of Swedish and British. There were Swedes in Pennsylvania, so it is not impossible:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden

    "Settlements were established on both sides of the Delaware Valley in the present-day American Mid-Atlantic states of Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, often in places where Swedish traders had been visiting since about 1610.[2] Fort Christina, now part of Wilmington, Delaware, was the first settlement, named after the reigning Swedish monarch, the sole daughter of Gustavus Adolphus. Along with Swedes and Finns, a number of the settlers were Dutch. New Sweden was conquered by the Dutch Republic in 1655, during the Second Northern War, and incorporated into the Dutch colony of New Netherland."



    BTW, unsurprisingly he had some Amerindian admixture (over 1% Amerindian in K36). Colonials mixed with Indians.

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    Edit:

    Could be also mixed with Pennsylvania Germans.

    Eurogenes K15:

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +50% West_German @ 3.083326

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swedish +25% Swedish +25% West_German @ 2.317782

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 North_Dutch + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.307963
    2 Swedish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.317782
    3 Swedish + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.377190
    4 Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.401718
    5 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Swedish + West_German @ 2.676972
    6 Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish + West_German @ 2.706337
    7 North_Dutch + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.723687
    8 Norwegian + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.749193
    9 Danish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.783258
    10 Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.806272
    11 North_German + Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 2.818307
    12 North_German + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.873340
    13 Irish + Swedish + Swedish + West_German @ 2.907369
    14 Hungarian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.950081
    15 Swedish + Swedish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.960523
    16 Hungarian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.968402
    17 Swedish + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 2.994252
    18 French + Swedish + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.005715
    19 South_Dutch + Swedish + Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.070903
    20 Hungarian + North_Dutch + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.074009

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    I double-checked and he scores some Amerindian (specifically North-Amerind) in K47 calc.

    Let's take a look at his World 22 results too (the best calc for Amerindians on GEDmatch):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 43.39
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.17
    3 West-Asian 8.8
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 7.71
    5 North-Amerind 3
    6 Melanesian 1.97
    7 Indo-Iranian 1.55
    8 Near_East 1.41

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 CEU (derived) 7.77
    2 German_V (derived) 7.94
    3 German-South (derived) 8.19
    4 Norwegian_V (derived) 8.43
    5 CEU_V (derived) 8.44
    6 British (derived) 8.7
    7 Austrian (derived) 8.91
    8 Welsh (derived) 9.21
    9 Serbian (derived) 9.66
    10 Hungarian (derived) 9.72
    11 Orcadian (derived) 9.86
    12 German (derived) 10.46
    13 Swedish (derived) 10.89
    14 Montenegrin (derived) 10.9
    15 Bosnian (derived) 11.11
    16 German-North (derived) 11.3
    17 Croatian (derived) 11.37
    18 Macedonian (derived) 11.63
    19 Slovenian (derived) 11.73
    20 Swiss (derived) 12.46

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.9% Cirkassian (derived) @ 3.98
    2 86.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.9% Adygei (derived) @ 4.07
    3 85.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 14.1% Balkarian (derived) @ 4.11
    4 87.1% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.9% Georgian (derived) @ 4.12
    5 87% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13% NorthOssetian (derived) @ 4.14
    6 86.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.8% Kumyk (derived) @ 4.15
    7 86.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.8% Kabardinian (derived) @ 4.15
    8 80.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 19.8% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 4.2
    9 89.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 10.5% Georgian_Imereti (derived) @ 4.23
    10 88.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.3% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 4.24
    11 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Azeri (derived) @ 4.24
    12 87.7% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.3% Ossetian (derived) @ 4.26
    13 82.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 17.4% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 4.26
    14 86.9% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.1% Chechen (derived) @ 4.27
    15 89.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 10.6% Abhkasian (derived) @ 4.28
    16 86.3% Norwegian_V (derived) + 13.7% Turk (derived) @ 4.31
    17 88.4% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.6% Armenian (derived) @ 4.34
    18 88.2% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.8% Kurd (derived) @ 4.36
    19 87.5% Norwegian_V (derived) + 12.5% Lezgin (derived) @ 4.41
    20 88.6% Norwegian_V (derived) + 11.4% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 4.45
    Hmm a Colonial Pennsylvanian?!? All my Father's family is from Pennsylvania and other than his mother's mother's family - some were East Germans and fairly recent - most are early PA Settlers - Scots-Irish, German, Dutch, Swiss etc. Here is my Eurogenes K15:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 36.63
    2 Atlantic 22.07
    3 Baltic 9.98
    4 Eastern_Euro 9.87
    5 West_Med 9.87
    6 West_Asian 6.27
    7 East_Med 2.43
    8 Amerindian 1.26


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 West_German @ 5.565444
    2 North_Dutch @ 7.147740
    3 Norwegian @ 7.516759
    4 Danish @ 7.831338
    5 Southwest_English @ 8.019802
    6 North_German @ 8.407774
    7 Southeast_English @ 8.679349
    8 Swedish @ 8.818262
    9 West_Norwegian @ 8.837001
    10 Orcadian @ 8.943923
    11 South_Dutch @ 9.035303
    12 West_Scottish @ 9.761045
    13 Irish @ 9.896715
    14 North_Swedish @ 11.393808
    15 French @ 12.819270
    16 East_German @ 13.462132
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 17.613972
    18 Hungarian @ 17.698204
    19 Austrian @ 19.143864
    20 Finnish @ 20.136772

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +50% West_German @ 3.804989


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% West_German +25% West_German +25% West_Norwegian @ 3.754694


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Norwegian + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.717739
    2 West_German + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.754694
    3 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_German + West_German @ 3.804989
    4 Norwegian + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.843618
    5 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_German + West_German @ 3.858149
    6 North_Swedish + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.860063
    7 Orcadian + Swedish + West_German + West_German @ 3.870356
    8 North_Dutch + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.894068
    9 Southwest_English + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.898480
    10 Norwegian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_German @ 3.911253
    11 Orcadian + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.929309
    12 Norwegian + West_German + West_German + West_German @ 3.932132
    13 Danish + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.962127
    14 Danish + Norwegian + West_German + West_German @ 3.985594
    15 North_German + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.987325
    16 French + Norwegian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.996852
    17 French + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.025114
    18 West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.034693
    19 Southwest_English + Swedish + West_German + West_German @ 4.053980
    20 South_Dutch + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.083265

    And my World 22:

    MDLP World-22 Oracle results:
    Kit T819374

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 45.81
    2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 33.21
    3 West-Asian 8.76
    4 North-European-Mesolithic 5.42
    5 Near_East 3.52
    6 Indo-Iranian 1.5
    7 Indo-Tibetan 0.51
    8 South-America_Amerind 0.49
    9 Arctic-Amerind 0.36
    10 Mesoamerican 0.32
    11 Samoedic 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 German_V (derived) 4.41
    2 Austrian (derived) 5.29
    3 CEU_V (derived) 5.56
    4 German-South (derived) 6.05
    5 CEU (derived) 6.24
    6 Serbian (derived) 6.51
    7 Hungarian (derived) 6.54
    8 Welsh (derived) 7.1
    9 British (derived) 7.17
    10 Bosnian (derived) 7.92
    11 Norwegian_V (derived) 7.98
    12 Croatian (derived) 8.04
    13 German (derived) 8.51
    14 Montenegrin (derived) 8.53
    15 Orcadian (derived) 8.61
    16 Slovenian (derived) 8.64
    17 German-North (derived) 8.99
    18 Swedish (derived) 9.43
    19 Macedonian (derived) 9.46
    20 Swiss (derived) 11.54

    Keep in mind I have no known Native American ancestors nor do I claim any - I think that amount of close to being noise? Or could possibly be from the early Colonials mixing a bit (my mother's mother's side has very old colonial ancestry from the 1600s - founders of Westerly, Rhode Island among them and that was around the time of King Philip's War etc - they fought in that too)??

    Cheers!

    Edit: I tried one on one comparison in gedmatch between our two kits and nothing popped up... not even when I set it to 100 SNPs or 1 CM - that's a bit strange... ?!? What is the quality of that sample?
    Last edited by Bollox79; 02-17-2019 at 02:53 PM.
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    I tried one on one comparison in gedmatch between our two kits and nothing popped up... not even when I set it to 100 SNPs or 1 CM - that's a bit strange... ?!? What is the quality of that sample?
    Quality is not bad but I just uploaded it today so it is not available for comparisons yet, I think? Maybe try again tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Quality is not bad but I just uploaded it today so it is not available for comparisons yet, I think? Maybe try again tomorrow.
    Ahh Ok cheers!
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinBMc View Post
    Who is "him"?
    If you google Shohola Creek, Indian Cabin Ridge, Pennsylvania DNA it will bring up the paper - he is sample US-14 - but not much more on him, but I only scanned over the paper using the search function for that particular sample...

    Pennsylvania was still frontier country in the early 1700s - and some settlers pushed the boundaries - maybe this was one of those? I have a Weaver family turning up in my Ancestry DNA cousin family trees - they were from Germany and one of them was a first pioneer along with two other men in a place in Ohio - they were described as "men of true grit!" If they show up in my father's Weaver cousin's matches - I will try to find a male descend to test as I am a Weaver from PA and my family has been here since the early to mid 1700s based on what I can per records...
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    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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