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    Corded Ware, Beakers and Minoan G25 Calculator

    I've created a simple K5 calculator based on G25 Scaled coordinates.
    The main goal of this calculator is to estimate ancestry proportions from major cultures in Europe 4000-5000 years ago: Bell Beakers (represented by Beaker_Iberia), Corded Ware (represented by CWC_Baltic) and Minoans (represented by Minoan_Lasithi)
    Additionally I've added two non-European populations: Nganassans (proxy for Siberian and East Asian ancestry) and Yoruba (proxy for SubSaharan ancestry).
    Note that this is a calculator for Europeans only and I suggest using it with default penalty.

    Datasheet:

    Code:
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    Beaker_Iberia,0.127027,0.14583,0.059887,0.013889,0.05995,-0.001227,-0.007191,0.002631,0.034565,0.043882,-0.003865,0.012259,-0.023994,-0.017396,0.007709,0.000583,0.00412,0.003269,2.5e-05,4e-04,0.008086,0.005119,-0.00599,-0.017834,0.001126
    CWC_Baltic,0.125205,0.114417,0.071024,0.093455,0.031596,0.028819,0.009322,0.008077,-0.006408,-0.027275,0.002869,-0.005545,0.006095,-0.000183,0.015834,0.010475,0.002912,0.000549,0.00352,0.00371,0.005158,0.002638,-0.002177,-0.004298,2e-04
    Minoan_Lasithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
    Nganassan,0.047692,-0.406618,0.155789,0.00239,-0.159445,-0.088213,0.028507,0.043337,0.031088,0.012848,0.102857,0.009412,-0.004073,-0.026162,-0.021973,-0.012331,-0.001095,0.013416,0.026837,-0.00085,0.043136,-0.011895,0.03361,0.000398,0.013556
    Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.000951,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
    My results:

    [1] "distance%=4.3583"

    michal3141

    CWC_Baltic,82.8
    Beaker_Iberia,9.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,7.2
    Nganassan,0.6
    For K25 and other calculators by me you can send me you raw data to my email: Hidden Content

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    [1] "distance%=3.9604"

    Sorcelow_scaled

    Minoan_Lasithi,55.4
    CWC_Baltic,43.4
    Nganassan,0.6
    Yoruba,0.6

    But this model makes more sense for me

    [1] "distance%=2.8027"

    Sorcelow_scaled

    Minoan_Lasithi,55.2
    Yamnaya_Kalmykia,20.8
    Russian_Tver,10.8
    Russian_Kursk,10.4
    Russian_Smolensk,2.8

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    Here are some results:

    Me:

    [1] "distance%=3.1007"

    Beaker_Iberia,50
    CWC_Baltic,37.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,12.4
    Nganassan,0.4

    Dad:

    [1] "distance%=3.6645"

    CWC_Baltic,42.2
    Beaker_Iberia,40
    Minoan_Lasithi,15.8
    Nganassan,2

    Mom:

    [1] "distance%=3.0442"

    Beaker_Iberia,44.2
    CWC_Baltic,44
    Minoan_Lasithi,11.8

    Wife:

    [1] "distance%=3.2938"

    CWC_Baltic,46.8
    Beaker_Iberia,39.8
    Minoan_Lasithi,13.4

    Father in law:

    [1] "distance%=4.829"

    CWC_Baltic,53
    Beaker_Iberia,37.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,8.8
    Yoruba,0.8

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    Could someone run mine please?

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    Jackson_Devoni_scaled,0.124067188128046,0.12186353 0229515,0.0497799284852841,0.034561165634278,0.029 5439902518262,0.00948228242566103,0.00517023403725 595,0.00207683653665858,0,-0.000911180552909247,0.00308538004142115,-0.00164853268090141,-0.00713571299871288,-0.00302769879611562,0.00773605713525954,0.00570135 247112472,-0.00625843430899454,0.00557429816210077,-0.000754188305398592,-0.00287637966895888,0.00237081631511174,0.00284401 300981553,-0.000246495436063226,0.00602494813255683,0.0040714 9112733897

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    Hello Michal,

    This looks interesting! Would you mind running mine, please?

    JMcB_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.065996,0.040052,0. 040931,0.015339,0.005875,0.005307,0.009817,0.00984 1,0.000162,0.00015,-0.016204,-0.012661,0.013436,0.003182,-0.006128,0.002534,0.006536,0.002001,0.009608,0.002 72,0.001109,0.006145,-0.000479

    Thanks in advance!
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    FT Big Y: I1-Z140 branch I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >A13252/YSEQ (circa 1630 AD).

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    Fit = 3.588 @ .001

    33.5% Beaker Iberia
    45% CWC Baltic
    21% Minoan Lasithi
    .5% Yoruba
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


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    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    [1] "distance%=4.5374"

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89
    Beaker_Iberia,6.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,3.2
    Nganassan,1.6

    [1] "distance%=4.3715" pen=0

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,9
    Nganassan,1.6
    Last edited by AlexRus; 02-21-2019 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Hello Michal,

    This looks interesting! Would you mind running mine, please?

    JMcB_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.065996,0.040052,0. 040931,0.015339,0.005875,0.005307,0.009817,0.00984 1,0.000162,0.00015,-0.016204,-0.012661,0.013436,0.003182,-0.006128,0.002534,0.006536,0.002001,0.009608,0.002 72,0.001109,0.006145,-0.000479

    Thanks in advance!
    JMcB.PNG
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


    E-V13 => E-PH1246 => E-BY14160
    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    Could someone please run mine? Thanks in advance.

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    Jessie_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.064488,0.052003, 0.036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.000479

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    Jessie_unscaled,0.0122,0.0134,0.0171,0.0161,0.0118 ,0.0062,0.0007,0.0027,0.0024,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0031,-0.0076,-0.0071,0.0221,0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0035,0.0003,0.0063,0.0057,0.0059,-0.0047,0.009,-0.0004

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    [1] "distance%=3.6571"


    ph2ter_scaled


    CWC_Baltic,71.4
    Beaker_Iberia,14.8
    Minoan_Lasithi,13.8
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
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    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
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    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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