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    Quote Originally Posted by macman View Post
    THanks man! Do under "CWC_Baltic" is also Scandinavians/nordics ?
    Native Europeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Native Europeans
    So Celts/Germanics/Nordics/Baltics/Slavic all of them ?

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    Is it possible to explain the references for us beginners?


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    CWC_Baltic,52.6 - Corded ware(Indo-European steppe) ?
    Beaker_Iberia,34.8 - Iberian Beakers
    Minoan_Lasithi,10.2 - ?
    Nganassan,2.4 - Reference for Siberian.
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    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
    55.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse
    36.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    8.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA2


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    Quote Originally Posted by macman View Post
    So Celts/Germanics/Nordics/Baltics/Slavic all of them ?
    I think yes. Here is my result. I am 100% Eastern Slav.

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89
    Beaker_Iberia,6.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,3.2
    Nganassan,1.6

    [1] "distance%=4.3715" pen=0

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,9
    Nganassan,1.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    [1] "distance%=4.5374"

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89
    Beaker_Iberia,6.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,3.2
    Nganassan,1.6

    [1] "distance%=4.3715" pen=0

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,9
    Nganassan,1.6
    You seem to be very similar to my wife. She is from Vladimir and clustering with Ukrainian_Belgorod and Southwest Russians.

    "sample": "Test2:A_scaled",
    "fit": 5.5787,
    "CWC_Baltic": 90.83,
    "Minoan_Lasithi": 7.5,
    "Beaker_Iberia": 1.67,
    "Nganassan": 0,
    "Yoruba": 0,

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    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    CWC_Baltic Beaker_Iberia Minoan_Lasithi Nganassan Yoruba
    0.7385940 0.8586782 2.0407190 6.1816061 7.7737797

    [1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
    [1] "penalty= 0"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"

    [1] "distance%=4.1394"

    corky_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,59.6
    Beaker_Iberia,33
    Minoan_Lasithi,7.4

    [1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
    [1] "penalty= 0.001"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"

    [1] "distance%=4.1397"

    corky_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,60
    Beaker_Iberia,32.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,7.8

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    Guys, it will be a dumb question, I know, but...
    I use this: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    On the "Distance" the smaller is the closest?
    On "Single" side the Distance also "smaller is closest" and with the Aggregated numbers the bigger is the more similar?

    Distance: 6.5930% / 0.06592950
    Aggregated
    41.4 CWC_Baltic
    28.6 Minoan_Lasithi
    16.6 Nganassan
    13.4 Yoruba

    So basically... what does it mean?

    Thanks a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szigmund View Post
    Guys, it will be a dumb question, I know, but...
    I use this: https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
    On the "Distance" the smaller is the closest?
    On "Single" side the Distance also "smaller is closest" and with the Aggregated numbers the bigger is the more similar?

    Distance: 6.5930% / 0.06592950
    Aggregated
    41.4 CWC_Baltic
    28.6 Minoan_Lasithi
    16.6 Nganassan
    13.4 Yoruba

    So basically... what does it mean?

    Thanks a lot!
    Correct, the closer you are to someone in the "Distance" tab, the more similar your autosomal DNA profile is to theirs.

    In the "Single" tab and below the aggregated line, your autosomal DNA is simulated as parts of the populations from the "Source" tab. You need yo make sure that the "Source" populations are relevant for your ancestry. For example, assume that you have a source with 2 populations (Norwegian and Greek) and your target is German. That German will probably score something like 90% Norwegian and 10% Greek, when they are neither Norwegian nor Greek. They deviate from Norwegians with that 10% Greek, which plays the role of a proxy for a slightly more Southern ancestry.

    So you need to be careful with your "Source" populations. In terms of distance, something between 1-2.5% is probably considered ideal when your source is formed of modern populations. Whereas, the further back in time one goes, the harder it will be to get a distance within that range, so you can consider the model somewhat acceptable even with a distance of up to ~3.5.
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    Thank you, Dorkymon!

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    Oh yes, and I just now saw that I made a mistake, and didn't use scaled data for me... so with scaled:

    Distance: 3.1243% / 0.03124330
    Aggregated
    71.8 CWC_Baltic
    27.0 Minoan_Lasithi
    0.8 Nganassan
    0.4 Beaker_Iberia

    Little bit different.

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