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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    I've created a simple K5 calculator based on G25 Scaled coordinates.
    The main goal of this calculator is to estimate ancestry proportions from major cultures in Europe 4000-5000 years ago: Bell Beakers (represented by Beaker_Iberia), Corded Ware (represented by CWC_Baltic) and Minoans (represented by Minoan_Lasithi)
    Additionally I've added two non-European populations: Nganassans (proxy for Siberian and East Asian ancestry) and Yoruba (proxy for SubSaharan ancestry).
    Note that this is a calculator for Europeans only and I suggest using it with default penalty.

    Datasheet:

    Code:
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Beaker_Iberia,0.127027,0.14583,0.059887,0.013889,0.05995,-0.001227,-0.007191,0.002631,0.034565,0.043882,-0.003865,0.012259,-0.023994,-0.017396,0.007709,0.000583,0.00412,0.003269,2.5e-05,4e-04,0.008086,0.005119,-0.00599,-0.017834,0.001126
    CWC_Baltic,0.125205,0.114417,0.071024,0.093455,0.031596,0.028819,0.009322,0.008077,-0.006408,-0.027275,0.002869,-0.005545,0.006095,-0.000183,0.015834,0.010475,0.002912,0.000549,0.00352,0.00371,0.005158,0.002638,-0.002177,-0.004298,2e-04
    Minoan_Lasithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
    Nganassan,0.047692,-0.406618,0.155789,0.00239,-0.159445,-0.088213,0.028507,0.043337,0.031088,0.012848,0.102857,0.009412,-0.004073,-0.026162,-0.021973,-0.012331,-0.001095,0.013416,0.026837,-0.00085,0.043136,-0.011895,0.03361,0.000398,0.013556
    Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.000951,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
    My results:

    [1] "distance%=4.3583"

    michal3141

    CWC_Baltic,82.8
    Beaker_Iberia,9.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,7.2
    Nganassan,0.6
    Hello Michal do you have more samples would be interesting for example Únětice Culture, Bell Beaker Germany, Sintashta culture ...
    Alain Dad
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    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

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    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    "distance%=4.0433 / distance=0.040433"

    Radboud

    CWC_Baltic 59.25
    Beaker_Iberia 30.90
    Minoan_Lasithi 9.85

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    [1] "distance%=4.5374"

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89
    Beaker_Iberia,6.2
    Minoan_Lasithi,3.2
    Nganassan,1.6

    [1] "distance%=4.3715" pen=0

    Alex_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,89.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,9
    Nganassan,1.6
    We both score 1.6 Nganassan in this model. Are you 100% Russian? Northwest Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    We both score 1.6 Nganassan in this model. Are you 100% Russian? Northwest Russia?
    Russian Pinega 1 @ 3.2705

    40.8 Balto Slavic
    34.2 Slavic
    15 Scandinavian
    10 Pamiri

    northern russian have little Bit Uralic admixture
    Alain Dad
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    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post
    Hello Michal do you have more samples would be interesting for example Únětice Culture, Bell Beaker Germany, Sintashta culture ...
    My goal was to choose as few distinct components as possible to get good fits for Europe. I don't want overfitting with many too similar components...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    I suppose these are meant to be run without a penalty?

    If so:



    Edit: Actually, given the 4+ distance on yours, you probably ran it with the penalty.

    pen=0.001



    Notice how Beaker type ancestry starts to spike from around Central Europe. Yamna Hungary anyone?
    These are meant to be run with default penalty actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post

    Thank you, digital, I appreciate it!

    Is this on Poi’s Runner already?
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    "distance%=2.7996"

    JMcB_scaled

    CWC_Baltic,47
    Beaker_Iberia,46.8
    Minoan_Lasithi,6.2
    As always, thank you Trelvern!
    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Is this on Poi’s Runner already?
    You can run this calc (or anything else) directly using http://185.144.156.77:3000/freeform_nmonte.html



    I can still add this to the custom calc list later.

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    Not a great fit for Mom. Probably needs Levant BA

    Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_dad 1.6497

    CWC_Baltic 46.67
    Beaker_Iberia 30.83
    Minoan_Lasithi 22.5
    Nganassan 0
    Yoruba 0

    Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_mom 8.1078

    Minoan_Lasithi 79.17
    CWC_Baltic 13.33
    Nganassan 4.17
    Yoruba 3.33
    Beaker_Iberia 0


    Edit: Yup, with Levant, the fit goes down to 2:
    1 Beaker_Iberia +CWC_Baltic +Levant_BA_North +Minoan_Lasithi +Nganassan +Yoruba Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_dad 1.6022 Open Map 35 43.33 4.17 17.5 0 0
    2 Beaker_Iberia +CWC_Baltic +Levant_BA_North +Minoan_Lasithi +Nganassan +Yoruba Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_mom 2.0463 Open Map 0 10.83 80.83 8.33 0 0
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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