# Thread: Corded Ware, Beakers and Minoan G25 Calculator

1. Originally Posted by michal3141
I've created a simple K5 calculator based on G25 Scaled coordinates.
The main goal of this calculator is to estimate ancestry proportions from major cultures in Europe 4000-5000 years ago: Bell Beakers (represented by Beaker_Iberia), Corded Ware (represented by CWC_Baltic) and Minoans (represented by Minoan_Lasithi)
Additionally I've added two non-European populations: Nganassans (proxy for Siberian and East Asian ancestry) and Yoruba (proxy for SubSaharan ancestry).
Note that this is a calculator for Europeans only and I suggest using it with default penalty.

Datasheet:

Code:
```,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
Beaker_Iberia,0.127027,0.14583,0.059887,0.013889,0.05995,-0.001227,-0.007191,0.002631,0.034565,0.043882,-0.003865,0.012259,-0.023994,-0.017396,0.007709,0.000583,0.00412,0.003269,2.5e-05,4e-04,0.008086,0.005119,-0.00599,-0.017834,0.001126
CWC_Baltic,0.125205,0.114417,0.071024,0.093455,0.031596,0.028819,0.009322,0.008077,-0.006408,-0.027275,0.002869,-0.005545,0.006095,-0.000183,0.015834,0.010475,0.002912,0.000549,0.00352,0.00371,0.005158,0.002638,-0.002177,-0.004298,2e-04
Minoan_Lasithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
Nganassan,0.047692,-0.406618,0.155789,0.00239,-0.159445,-0.088213,0.028507,0.043337,0.031088,0.012848,0.102857,0.009412,-0.004073,-0.026162,-0.021973,-0.012331,-0.001095,0.013416,0.026837,-0.00085,0.043136,-0.011895,0.03361,0.000398,0.013556
Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.000951,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425```
My results:

[1] "distance%=4.3583"

michal3141

CWC_Baltic,82.8
Beaker_Iberia,9.4
Minoan_Lasithi,7.2
Nganassan,0.6
Hello Michal do you have more samples would be interesting for example Únětice Culture, Bell Beaker Germany, Sintashta culture ...

2. "distance%=4.0433 / distance=0.040433"

CWC_Baltic 59.25
Beaker_Iberia 30.90
Minoan_Lasithi 9.85

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4. Originally Posted by AlexRus
[1] "distance%=4.5374"

Alex_scaled

CWC_Baltic,89
Beaker_Iberia,6.2
Minoan_Lasithi,3.2
Nganassan,1.6

[1] "distance%=4.3715" pen=0

Alex_scaled

CWC_Baltic,89.4
Minoan_Lasithi,9
Nganassan,1.6
We both score 1.6 Nganassan in this model. Are you 100% Russian? Northwest Russia?

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6. Originally Posted by J Man
We both score 1.6 Nganassan in this model. Are you 100% Russian? Northwest Russia?
Russian Pinega 1 @ 3.2705

40.8 Balto Slavic
34.2 Slavic
15 Scandinavian
10 Pamiri

northern russian have little Bit Uralic admixture

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8. Originally Posted by Alain
Hello Michal do you have more samples would be interesting for example Únětice Culture, Bell Beaker Germany, Sintashta culture ...
My goal was to choose as few distinct components as possible to get good fits for Europe. I don't want overfitting with many too similar components...

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10. Originally Posted by Dorkymon
I suppose these are meant to be run without a penalty?

If so:

Edit: Actually, given the 4+ distance on yours, you probably ran it with the penalty.

pen=0.001

Notice how Beaker type ancestry starts to spike from around Central Europe. Yamna Hungary anyone?
These are meant to be run with default penalty actually.

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12. Originally Posted by digital_noise

Thank you, digital, I appreciate it!

Is this on Poi’s Runner already?

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14. Originally Posted by Trelvern
"distance%=2.7996"

JMcB_scaled

CWC_Baltic,47
Beaker_Iberia,46.8
Minoan_Lasithi,6.2
As always, thank you Trelvern!

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16. Originally Posted by JMcB
Is this on Poi’s Runner already?
You can run this calc (or anything else) directly using http://185.144.156.77:3000/freeform_nmonte.html

I can still add this to the custom calc list later.

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18. Not a great fit for Mom. Probably needs Levant BA

CWC_Baltic 46.67
Beaker_Iberia 30.83
Minoan_Lasithi 22.5
Nganassan 0
Yoruba 0

Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_mom 8.1078

Minoan_Lasithi 79.17
CWC_Baltic 13.33
Nganassan 4.17
Yoruba 3.33
Beaker_Iberia 0

Edit: Yup, with Levant, the fit goes down to 2:
1 Beaker_Iberia +CWC_Baltic +Levant_BA_North +Minoan_Lasithi +Nganassan +Yoruba Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_dad 1.6022 Open Map 35 43.33 4.17 17.5 0 0
2 Beaker_Iberia +CWC_Baltic +Levant_BA_North +Minoan_Lasithi +Nganassan +Yoruba Custom:AGUser_Dewsloth_mom 2.0463 Open Map 0 10.83 80.83 8.33 0 0

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