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    English vs other global 25 match up

    Unscaled default 1000/500 25% filter Other 2% or above


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.6095,
    "Scottish": 64.8
    "English": 35.2,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.4766,
    "Irish": 59,
    "English": 41


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.671,
    "Orcadian": 67.2,
    "English": 32.8,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7675,
    "English": 90.4,
    "Welsh": 9.6,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7686,
    "English": 95.4,
    "Shetlandic": 4.6,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.6835,
    "English": 74.2,
    "Dutch": 25.8,







    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7366,
    "English": 81.4,
    "Norwegian": 18.6


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7305,
    "English": 86,
    "Swedish": 14,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7365,
    "English": 84.6,
    "German": 15.4,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7542,
    "English": 92.2,
    "French": 7.8,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7685,
    "English": 97.6,
    "Finnish": 2.4,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7164,
    "English": 68.2,
    "Icelandic": 31.8,





    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7616,
    "English": 97.8,
    "Czech": 2.2,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.7606,
    "English": 80.8,
    "English_Cornwall": 19.2,
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    Just for comparison purposes these are my results.

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 0.7458,
    "Scottish": 100,
    "English": 0,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 0.6386,
    "Irish": 90,
    "English": 10,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.0301,
    "Orcadian": 59.17,
    "English": 40.83,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.0967,
    "English": 72.5,
    "Welsh": 27.5,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.1187,
    "English": 86.67,
    "Shetlandic": 13.33,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 0.5875,
    "Dutch": 80,
    "English": 20,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.0541,
    "English": 64.17,
    "English_Cornwall": 35.83,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 0.9518,
    "English": 64.17,
    "Norwegian": 35.83,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 0.9396,
    "English": 61.67,
    "Swedish": 38.33,

    "fit": 0.9155,
    "English": 56.67,
    "German": 43.33,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.1207,
    "English": 91.67,
    "French": 8.33,

    "fit": 1.0626,
    "English": 90,
    "Finnish": 10,

    "fit": 0.7348,
    "Icelandic": 62.5,
    "English": 37.5,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 1.1097,
    "English": 93.33,
    "Czech": 6.67,

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    For a further comparison and also for the fun of it, I’ll give it a try, too.



    “Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.8168,
    "English": 55.4,
    "Scottish": 44.6,

    ****

    "Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.8262,
    "English": 63,
    "Irish": 37,

    ****

    "Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.7698,
    "English": 52.4,
    "Orcadian": 47.6,

    ****

    "Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9377,
    "English": 100,
    "Welsh": 0,

    ****

    "Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9347,
    "English": 98.8,
    "Shetlandic": 1.2,

    ****

    "Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.7708,
    "Dutch": 51.2,
    "English": 48.8,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9103,
    "English": 71.6,
    "English_Cornwall": 28.4,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9303,
    "English": 100,
    "Norwegian": 0,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.8849,
    "English": 63.2,
    "Swedish": 36.8,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.5457,
    "German": 63.2,
    "English": 36.8,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.635,
    "English": 56.2,
    "French": 43.8,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9214,
    "English": 97,
    "Finnish": 3,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.8805,
    "English": 77.6,
    "Icelandic": 22.4,

    ****

    Custom:AGUser_JMcB",
    "fit": 0.9107,
    "English": 94.8,
    "Czech": 5.2,

    ****


    Finally, with all things considered and switching back to scaled:


    Custom:AGUser_JMcB

    Fit 1.3182

    English: 46.4
    Scottish: 29.2
    Irish: 14.4
    German_East: 6
    Italian_Bergamo: 4
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    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
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    I used Global25 nMonte Runner Version 1.2 - by Poi.

    English and everybody else.
    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.765
    English: 30.8
    Dutch: 69.2


    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.0102
    English: 47
    Orcadian: 53

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.1043
    English:66.6 66.6
    Swedish: 33.4 33.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.0433
    English: 64.6
    German: 35.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.1071
    English: 23.8
    Irish: 76.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.0733
    English: 60
    Icelandic 40

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.1624
    English: 41.2
    Scottish: 58.8

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit:
    English: 1.1757 92.8
    Finnish 7.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.1779
    English: 88.2
    Czech 11.8

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.2186
    English: 88.8
    German East: 11.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.2372
    English: 82
    Norwegian: 18

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.287
    English: 80.8
    Shetlandic: 19.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.3308
    English: 93.4
    Belgian 6.6

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.3342
    English: 89
    Welsh: 11

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.3323
    English: 95.8
    French East: 4.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.3414
    English: 99.6
    French: 0.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 1.3789
    English: 71.8
    English_Cornwall: 28.2
    The Dutch were by far the best match to the English, so I ran it with the Dutch, and English & Dutch were still the best fit, 2 pop combo
    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.765
    Dutch: 69.2
    English: 30.8


    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.7979
    Dutch: 51.4
    Irish 48.6

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8069
    Dutch: 75.6
    German 24.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8075
    Dutch: 67.8
    Icelandic 32.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8161
    Dutch: 61
    Scottish 39

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8345
    Dutch: 91.6
    Belgian 8.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8477
    Dutch: 94.8
    French 5.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8484
    Dutch: 85
    Swedish 15

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8488
    Dutch: 97.4
    French_East 2.6

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8535
    Dutch: 99
    French_South 1

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8542
    Dutch: 61
    Orcadian 39

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8561
    Dutch: 98
    German_East 2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8616
    Dutch: 98.2
    Czech 1.8

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8634
    Dutch: 93
    Shetlandic 7

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8657
    Dutch: 72.6
    English_Cornwall 27.4

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8695
    Dutch: 100
    Finnish 0

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8738
    Dutch: 95.8
    Norwegian 4.2

    Custom:AGUser_Mitchell1893
    Fit: 0.8969
    Dutch: 93.8
    Welsh 6.2
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    Ancestry: 37% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German 3% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French & Dutch, 1% India

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    1/French v English

    "fit": 0.7148,
    "French: 58.33,
    "English": 41.67,
    "fit": 0.9753,
    "English": 58.33,
    "French_East": 41.67,
    "fit": 0.9687,
    "English": 79.17,
    "French_South": 20.83,
    "fit": 1.0457,
    "English": 88.33,
    "Basque_French": 11.67,


    2/English v Others

    "fit": 1.1113,
    "English_Cornwall": 55.83,
    "English": 44.17,
    "fit": 1.0172,
    "English": 53.33,
    "Irish": 46.67,
    "fit": 1.029,
    "Scottish": 60.83, ???
    "English": 39.17,
    "fit": 1.112,
    "English": 61.67, ???
    "Welsh": 38.33,
    "fit": 1.0889,
    "English": 53.33,
    "Orcadian": 46.6
    "fit": 0.8563,
    "Dutch": 75,???
    "English": 25,
    "fit": 0.9587,
    "English": 57.5,
    "Belgian": 42.5,
    "fit": 0.9548,
    "English": 57.5,
    "German": 42.5,

    but with the same data and R i get

    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    English_Cornwall Welsh Scottish English
    1.324841 1.335141 1.450093 1.473614
    Belgian Orcadian Irish French
    1.491542 1.547404 1.549221 1.674100


    "distance%=1.0868"

    Trelvern
    Welsh,51.4
    English_Cornwall,30.4
    French,8.2
    Basque_French,5.4
    French_South,4.6
    Last edited by Trelvern; 03-10-2019 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    1/French v English

    "fit": 0.7148,
    "French: 58.33,
    "English": 41.67,
    "fit": 0.9753,
    "English": 58.33,
    "French_East": 41.67,
    "fit": 0.9687,
    "English": 79.17,
    "French_South": 20.83,
    "fit": 1.0457,
    "English": 88.33,
    "Basque_French": 11.67,


    2/English v Others

    "fit": 1.1113,
    "English_Cornwall": 55.83,
    "English": 44.17,
    "fit": 1.0172,
    "English": 53.33,
    "Irish": 46.67,
    "fit": 1.029,
    "Scottish": 60.83, ???
    "English": 39.17,
    "fit": 1.112,
    "English": 61.67, ???
    "Welsh": 38.33,
    "fit": 1.0889,
    "English": 53.33,
    "Orcadian": 46.6
    "fit": 0.8563,
    "Dutch": 75,???
    "English": 25,
    "fit": 0.9587,
    "English": 57.5,
    "Belgian": 42.5,
    "fit": 0.9548,
    "English": 57.5,
    "German": 42.5,
    I am not sure of the settings you used, but I think you should get a better fit with Irish + French.

    EDIT:
    In your last edit, where you used R, you might have used scaled coordinates, so you should divide the fit by 2 to compared with unscaled.
    Last edited by Garvan; 03-10-2019 at 01:28 PM.

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    "fit": 0.6924,
    "French": 60,
    "Irish": 40,

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    Scaled English and other. I never know which is better,scaled or unscaled.



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.8181,
    "English": 51.4,
    "Irish": 48.6,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 0.936,
    "Scottish": 59,
    "English": 41


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0549,
    "Orcadian": 51.2,
    "English": 48.8,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1214,
    "English": 84.6,
    "Welsh": 15.4,

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1453,
    "English": 89.8,
    "Shetlandic": 10.2,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1839,
    "English": 88,
    "English_Cornwall": 12,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0595,
    "English": 76.4,
    "Dutch": 23.6


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0301,
    "English": 73,
    "Norwegian": 27

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0675,
    "English": 83.8,
    "Swedish": 16.2,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1214,
    "English": 88.4,
    "German": 11.6,


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1793,
    "English": 97.4,
    "French": 2.6,



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.1759,
    "English": 97.4,
    "Czech": 2.6,



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0904,
    "English": 94.6,
    "Finnish": 5.4,



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0689,
    "English": 70.8,
    "Icelandic": 29.2,



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0857,
    "English": 97.8,
    "Saami": 2.2,



    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0995,
    "English": 95.8,
    "Karelian": 4.2


    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_firemonkey",
    "fit": 1.0857,
    "English": 95.4,
    "Ingrian": 4.6,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvan View Post
    I am not sure of the settings you used, but I think you should get a better fit with Irish + French.

    EDIT:
    In your last edit, where you used R, you might have used scaled coordinates, so you should divide the fit by 2 to compared with unscaled.
    Not at all
    I used unscaled coordinates this time ( i have both)
    i use scaled or unscaled :depends on the data.
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    I've often been said that I'm a sort of French-speaking Englishman:

    [1] "distance%=1.0652"

    Pat_S

    English,68.2
    French,31.8

    In fact it seems, that ich actually Deutsch and English spreche:

    [1] "distance%=0.7938"

    Pat_S

    German,60.4
    English,39.6

    edit: nMonte3, unscaled, default penalty.
    edit edit: I forgot. With Finnish and Saami, for the fun:

    [1] "distance%=0.9866"

    Pat_S

    English,78.4
    Finnish,21.6

    [1] "distance%=1.1046"

    Pat_S

    English,93.4
    Saami,6.6
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