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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post

    I am positively sure by artifacts that the copper Hoard culture is not related with IVC, but steppe, especially seima turbino. they would bring Indra concept over there:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_Hoard_Culture

    compare Neolithic baikal harpoon to the above one:
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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    Did seima turbino culture land on British isles? Who brought it over there?
    Is it possible that british people started to speak IE since then?



    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...efacts-3407818
    China bronze and southeast asia also:



    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...ig10_257607999
    a Typological comparison between copper-base, blind socketed axe-adzes from: 1 Turbino I cemetery (Perm Krai, Russia), 2 Yinxu, Miaobu Locus North Burial 60 (Henan, RPC), 3 Xin'gan, 'Dayangzhou Great Burial' (Jiangxi, RPC), 4 Dong Den cemetery (Ha Tay, Vietnam), 5 Non Nok Tha, Burial 90 (Khon Kaen, Thailand), 6 Non Pa Wai, Square C, Burial 2 (Khok Samrong; Thailand), 7 Tha Kae Bronze Age layer (Lopburi, Thailand). b Typological comparison between copper-base, blind socketed spear-heads from: 1 Seima cemetery (Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia), 2 Yinxu, Locus West, Burial 729 (Henan, RPC), 3 Ban Chiang, Burial 76 (Udon Thani, Thailand), 4 Nil Kham Haeng, Burial 4 (Khok Samrong, Thailand), 5 Viet Khe cemetery (Thanh Hoa, Vietnam)
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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    *Dyḗus Ph2tḗr (lit. sky father") > Deus or Ancient Greek Zeus > ancient chinese Tees > modern chinese Di(帝, lord)


    Fig 4. The warrior burials at grave circle B at Mycenae, with Avila type II spearheads.
    https://adnaera.com/2018/11/17/the-b...age-in-europe/
    1. According to Harvard scholar K.C Chang, an expert of china bronze culture, the Di was a shaman.
    If so, what about the above greek person?

    sorcery and shamanism:

    in ancient times people could connect with the heavens through the shaman. with this heaven and earth connection, those controlling this form of communication had the knowledge and power to rule. therefore, the shaman became an indispensable member at the royal court. in fact, often times the king was actually the leader of the shamans. the founder of china’s first three dynasties possessed shaman and supernatural abilities. for example, xiayu was able to stop and control huge flooding by using mysterious powers of his "pace of yu”, which became an important style for later shamans. another shaman was shang tang of the shang dynasty, could pray to the heavens for rain. furthermore, shaman houji could make his own crops grow and mature faster than others. such traditions have been confirmed in shang dynasty oracles. the oracle bone inscriptions noted: the shang king is the leader of the shamans. according to the inscriptions, the only holder of prophecy rights is shang king. it contained contents of the shang kings performing rain dances and dream interpretations, all of which were both shang king’s and shaman’s activities. this demonstrates that shang kings were indeed shamans. note: kc chang, qingtong huichen
    - 1st dynasty Xia is a erlitou culture where seima turbio spearhead, dagger and bronze culture entered
    as I already qouted. As mentioned above, they had a flood myth like mesoamerica, India, west asia.

    Now we wait and see whether WSHG entered Sumer of flood myth,who already entered India.

    - 2nd dynasty shang of which royal tomb had karasuk dagger. They were buried like sintashta burial type with mongol horse.

    - 3rd dynasty Zhou, which have tons of IE. and zhou burial:


    https://www.ancient-origins.net/hist...d-china-020445


    figure . burial objects of the western zhou period:

    http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History...-religion.html


    The Scythian Kurgan Arzhan 2 (Tuva, Siberia), 7th century BC, Credit: Michael Hochmuth, German Archaeological Institute, Berlin.:

    https://phys.org/news/2017-04-scythi...ns-animal.html



    2. Is there a difference between veil of the Qin shihuang's headgear and of altai shaman?





    3. see also quin shihuang's pyramid ( I called it upside-dwon pyramid):
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....-down-pyramids (#7)
    Last edited by johen; 04-16-2019 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    I think greek bronze and china bronze really had same concept of sunhead culture, and Indra not difference at all. It means they had a same root.


    https://www.bowers.org/index.php/vis...-figure-list-1

    Helios in his chariot


    Mask of Agamemnon



    and zhou bural mask in china:


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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    Did seima turbino culture land on British isles? Who brought it over there?
    Is it possible that british people started to speak IE since then?





    china and southeast asia:

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...ig10_257607999
    breaking metals and handling ideas about bronze age hoards from western iberia also. who brought that?


    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ions_in_Pre_an

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