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    I've uploaded mine. It says H67* while FTDNA says H67. There are two other people with it on Yfull. One gives a place in Northern Ireland. FTDNA gives as coding region matches -distance 2 Ireland 3 Scotland 2 USA 2 UK 1 distance 3-Ireland 2
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    Uploaded my file and already has placed me on the tree. I found out more in five minutes the geographical region and TMCA of my haplogroup, then it in three years I have since I had the full sequence done.

    Excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Cool, I might look into this one. Interesting that they have two J2a1a1e's from Israel. I don't remember ever seeing them on FTDNA!
    That is probably because they are from scientific samples/academic papers rather than FTDNA testers.

    If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll see a link to "Scientific sample prefixes and any related scholarly papers are listed here" - click on that and it'll bring up a list of articles that reference samples in the tree. On the top right, there is a search button and you can enter the kit number which will bring up the reference.

    For the two samples that you mention from Israel, JQ797909.1 is referenced as from the paper by Pala et al in Am. J. Hum. Genet. 90 (5), 915-924 (2012); and KX440257.1 is from unpublished research by Abu-Amero,K.K., Gonzalez,A.M., Larruga,J.M., Bosley,T.M. and Cabrera,V.M.

    Genbank is also a good place to look up these kit numbers - for the second one for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KX440257.1

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    Quote Originally Posted by FionnSneachta View Post
    There are only 3 others on YFull with my dad's haplogroup and unfortunately none give a place of origin so I have no idea of a possible origin. It's similar for my great grandfather's haplogroup with only four people having it on YFull and no origin given. There are 37 with my haplogroup with one giving an origin in Denmark, one in Sweden and one in Russia so that might indicate a Scandinavian origin.
    I'd check back in a few days once it's been up and running for a while. If they're uploaders, they need to self report the origin in their settings as it's not automatic. If it's from a scientific study it looks like some have a origin assigned and some don't - perhaps depends how easy the origin is associated with the Genbank accession number in the paper.

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    If i was used to designate a marker via genbank and then used in the last phylotree, do you think i need to upload my data or will yfull use mine which sits with the phylotree

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4o
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Maternal side Grandfather .......R-S8172
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    That is probably because they are from scientific samples/academic papers rather than FTDNA testers.

    If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll see a link to "Scientific sample prefixes and any related scholarly papers are listed here" - click on that and it'll bring up a list of articles that reference samples in the tree. On the top right, there is a search button and you can enter the kit number which will bring up the reference.

    For the two samples that you mention from Israel, JQ797909.1 is referenced as from the paper by Pala et al in Am. J. Hum. Genet. 90 (5), 915-924 (2012); and KX440257.1 is from unpublished research by Abu-Amero,K.K., Gonzalez,A.M., Larruga,J.M., Bosley,T.M. and Cabrera,V.M.

    Genbank is also a good place to look up these kit numbers - for the second one for example https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KX440257.1
    Thanks! The Israeli samples are Druze, that same study also has J2a1a1e from Greece, Poland, Basque Spain, Italy and Lithuania. Meanwhile FTDNA members show 9 Norway, 6 Sweden, 6 Germany, 5 France and 3 Denmark...
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    If i was used to designate a marker via genbank and then used in the last phylotree, do you think i need to upload my data or will yfull use mine which sits with the phylotree
    They said on their Facebook page that samples uploaded to Genbank and referenced in a publication are on their Mtree, but they didn't include submissions of individuals who had uploaded their sequence data to Genbank independently. So if you were part of Behar's 2012 paper that used FTDNA data for example, it might be on there. If you uploaded yourself via Ian Logan's submission guidance, you may not be on YFull's MTree. Easiest way to check is if you know your Genbank accession number and check it against your section of the Mtree: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H95a/

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    FTDNA still have me down as V-C72T! after 4 years. Is this test going to give me anything more informative, or is it not worth it at the moment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanKiwi View Post
    FTDNA still have me down as V-C72T! after 4 years. Is this test going to give me anything more informative, or is it not worth it at the moment?
    YFull don't do tests themselves - third party analysis of the tests that you've had done. It seems that FTDNA's mitochondrial tree currently follows Phylotree in current build 17, which was last updated 18 Feb 2016 http://www.phylotree.org/ - YFull's statements indicate that they will use Phylotree build 17 as the base and then develop further on customer submissions and data from academic studies. So it's likely to look similar in the early stages but diverge in future. Based on this blog by Roberta Estes https://dna-explained.com/2018/10/10...ial-haplotree/, it seems to indicate that FTDNA wouldn't diverge from Phylotree at least as of last October, but they could change their approach in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    They said on their Facebook page that samples uploaded to Genbank and referenced in a publication are on their Mtree, but they didn't include submissions of individuals who had uploaded their sequence data to Genbank independently. So if you were part of Behar's 2012 paper that used FTDNA data for example, it might be on there. If you uploaded yourself via Ian Logan's submission guidance, you may not be on YFull's MTree. Easiest way to check is if you know your Genbank accession number and check it against your section of the Mtree: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H95a/
    Thanks

    My genbank ID starts with KC......so although visible in pylotree it looks like i need to upload
    Last edited by vettor; 03-19-2019 at 12:30 AM.

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4o
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Maternal side Grandfather .......R-S8172
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

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