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Thread: E-V13 entered Greece with Illyrians and Dorian invasions

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    Quote Originally Posted by armalite View Post
    I think I am a descendant of the Dorians or Sea People's. My haplogroup is E-FGC44177. And my father’s bloodline research also shows that our ancestors may have come to Hungary deep from the Balkans.
    That is not your likely ancestry, only a minority of Hungarian E-V13 have some likely recent Balkan origin. Though perhaps you are descended of Sea Peoples remnant who stayed in their old area, if that area fits into the North of Danube region which is possible according to some finds. And I say that because this subclade has strong Near-eastern diversity.

    You need more profiling or at least some STR's for comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huban View Post
    That is not your likely ancestry, only a minority of Hungarian E-V13 have some likely recent Balkan origin. Though perhaps you are descended of Sea Peoples remnant who stayed in their old area, if that area fits into the North of Danube region which is possible according to some finds. And I say that because this subclade has strong Near-eastern diversity.

    You need more profiling or at least some STR's for comparison.
    Thanks for the helpful advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I believe you misunderstood my question. I was curious as to why you believe your specific cluster arrived with the Dorians or Sea Peoples. Can you trace your paternal ancestry back to the Balkans?
    because 2 theoretical route-making pages also put my FGC44177 group into disrepair.
    I think I can rightly believe that my ancestors had something to do with those areas at that stage of the Bronze Age.
    If their descendants live for those peoples, who can be more likely than we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    Prime candidates would be the groups subsumed under "Cimmerian" and those have, without a doubt, a Thracian connection.
    Cimmerian is modern sochi area of Russia ...............these people where the border of Thracian peoples ( being second biggest race of the world according to Herodotus )

    It is said these cimmerian where in majority blonde hair and blue eyes


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Cimmerian is modern sochi area of Russia ...............these people where the border of Thracian peoples ( being second biggest race of the world according to Herodotus )

    It is said these cimmerian where in majority blonde hair and blue eyes
    Whether they were blonde, red or blue haired makes no difference even autosomal dna is sometimes not very predictive of whether you are light or dark for instance i can tell you that my grandmother from Northwestern Bulgaria is more Northern European than most other Bulgarians who are blonde and blue eyed but she is has swarthy skin, brown eyes and wavy black hair that hasnt gone white even now when she is 74 light snps are recesive and you need to inherit them from both parents there are also plenty of dark eyed and skinned Northwestern Europeans too and the Thracians also had some Northern European so i see no problem for E-V13 in the steppe to be of Balkan origin.

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    It should be ~3-5%. And probably the ones coming from around Turkey having more, a regional difference. I don't really think it's related to any Iranian population. I don't know their subclades, so i cannot say much. We have one Kurd around who is E-V13, but he doesn't seem to be active.
    These 110 Kurds from Iraqi Kurdistan that I mentioned are from Nebel et al study. Their E1b1b level was at 7.4% actually.

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    Thought I would share a Big Y-700 result of an Albanian from Kosovë that recently came out at Albanian Bloodlines - Gjenetika.com. He tested E-Y3183 (S2972-) and will form a subclade defined by BY5330 + etc with YF01502, Bulgarian from Plovdiv. Their TMRCA should be 1000-1500 ybp (https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y3183/)

    Worth mentioning that we previously confirmed another Albanian sample, from Tirana region, that tested E-Y3183 (S2972-) at YSEQ (http://www.gjenetika.com/wp-content/...05/E-Z5018.png) and the STR distance is high as compared to the Albanian from Kosovë. The high genetic distance suggests that the sample from Tiranë would either split upstream or form another E-Y3183 (S2972-) subclade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huban View Post
    That is not your likely ancestry, only a minority of Hungarian E-V13 have some likely recent Balkan origin. Though perhaps you are descended of Sea Peoples remnant who stayed in their old area, if that area fits into the North of Danube region which is possible according to some finds. And I say that because this subclade has strong Near-eastern diversity.

    You need more profiling or at least some STR's for comparison.
    In the end, it will result that Marija Gimbutas was right regarding Late Bronze Age of Balkans just as she was right about her systematization of Kurgan theory.

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    A question that might be off-topic. Are all of these Albanian clades uploaded to YFULL or somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    Thought I would share a Big Y-700 result of an Albanian from Kosovë that recently came out at Albanian Bloodlines - Gjenetika.com. He tested E-Y3183 (S2972-) and will form a subclade defined by BY5330 + etc with YF01502, Bulgarian from Plovdiv. Their TMRCA should be 1000-1500 ybp (https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y3183/)

    Worth mentioning that we previously confirmed another Albanian sample, from Tirana region, that tested E-Y3183 (S2972-) at YSEQ (http://www.gjenetika.com/wp-content/...05/E-Z5018.png) and the STR distance is high as compared to the Albanian from Kosovë. The high genetic distance suggests that the sample from Tiranë would either split upstream or form another E-Y3183 (S2972-) subclade.
    Those old clades of Y3183 are quite fascinating. At FTDNA we have another Bulgarian who is in a small subclade with a German, and there is also a Morrocan sample who is negative for all Y3183 subclades. Compared to CTS9320 and L241 it also seem to have far less Central/Eastern European members, but no idea what it means.

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