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Thread: The LivingDNA Irish update and being careful what you wish for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerijoe View Post
    Jesse, I take it your Irish! In the era of fake news are you sure? All kidding aside that is a big change and are you satisfied it follows your known ancestry. I see your Asia is gone, same here. Here are my new results.

    Attachment 29874

    Here are kit results.

    Attachment 29876Attachment 29877

    Transferred data from LDNA to MyHeritage.

    Attachment 29878

    Next time I take a DNA test, I’ll make sure I spin the wheel harder.
    Yes just Irish. I'll be interested to see what the results are on my test that I took with them and other family members. My daughter got only 11% Irish with them so her update should be interesting. I'd also like to see how they go breaking down Irish regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    This is from an upload of 23andMe that I did a while ago. I've just checked and before it was 100% Irish but this is the new result.



    This is my original test that hasn't been changed. This was from an actual spit test.


    Interesting... similarly to FS's (father?) we have trace Northumbrian after Irish. The Northumbrian Cautious category includes Ireland and NW Scotland and I think this is a very odd pairing but I do wonder why this region is selected by their calculator as one of the trace regions for Irish testers now... The only connection I can think of off the top of my head is the movement of Irish monks to monasteries such as Lindisfarne in the Northumbrian area, perhaps Gaelic settlement to some extent of the Scottish lowlands as well. But of course, trying to look at this through historical movements isn't always the best approach as our reference populations are modern people... Just throwing some thoughts out there I guess.
    Last edited by sktibo; 04-19-2019 at 04:55 AM.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    This is from an upload of 23andMe that I did a while ago. I've just checked and before it was 100% Irish but this is the new result.



    This is my original test that hasn't been changed. This was from an actual spit test.


    It's strange that some sort of update was applied to your uploaded test but not your spit test. I was under the impression that the uploaded results already had the Irish panel updates applied but maybe (probably) I'm wrong, maybe this is why my mothers Irish result is so low. Anyway, I'm also curious to know what you think of your new subregions.

    I'm probably beating a dead horse with this but at my 3x greats on her side we are at 93.75% Irish, at my 5x it's 29/32 Irish, so I just can't imagine how her score could be as low as LivingDNA says. The subregions just seem...random.
    Screen Shot 2019-04-19 at 10.33.44 AM.png

    On the contrary, my father had much better luck, he's at a very realistic 49.1% Great Britain and Ireland with a little over 26% being attributed to Ireland (one Irish grandparent for him). Unfortunately, like me, he's given way too much Eastern Europe. LivingDNA has him at 40.7% so I don't know what's going on there.

    Edit: My data upload from last year has finally gone into "Quality Review", I'm excited to see how different it is to my original.
    Last edited by BackToTheForests; 04-19-2019 at 04:42 PM.
    Y DNA E-V13>Z5018>S2979>Z16659>S2972* John Saunders unknown birthdate, died 1840 in Kings Bromley, Staffordshire, England.
    MtDNA U5a2c3a Betty Hallissy b.1801 Passage West, Cork, Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    It's not just you: Dad's results from LivingDNA. He also scored about 10% Scandinavian/Finnish despite no Scandinavian ancestors within the last 300 years.
    Attachment 29645

    Dad's results from Ancestry (and ancestry )

    England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 51%
    Germanic Europe 40%
    European Jewish 5%
    France 4%

    Dad was born in Germany to a German/Belgian/Ashkenazi father and an American BritishColonial/PADutch/Swiss(b. Zurich 1732) mother.
    Note LivingDNA's utter lack of any western/central euro...
    We'll see what the LivingDNA update will bring.


    Edit: Also Dad has no known Italian in at least the last 300 years, despite the 11%+ award by LivingDNA
    Wow! Dad's results just changed a lot! Now is it because of their testing, or is it because of the responses to the survey questions, or both? In any event, I think it's more accurate than before, and quite similar to Ancestry.com.

    New results:
    Europe 98.9%
    Great Britain and Ireland 55.6%
    South Central England 21.3%
    Southeast England 11.3%
    East Anglia 8.3%
    Ireland 3.3%
    Southwest Scotland and Northern Ireland 3.1%
    Lincolnshire 2.4%
    Cornwall 1.9%
    South Yorkshire 1.8%
    Cumbria 1.1%
    South Wales 1.1%

    Europe (North and West) 40.7%
    Germanic 40.7%

    Europe (South) 2.6%
    Aegean 2.6%
    Near East 1.1%
    Armenia and Cyprus 1.1%

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    The old breakdown:
    His 2017 results (he was born in Germany)
    Europe 100%
    Great Britain and Ireland 71.1%
    Southeast England 20.6%
    East Anglia 13.6%
    Lincolnshire 12.2%
    South Central England 9.5%
    South Yorkshire 4.7%
    Cumbria 2.4%
    Northwest Scotland 2.4%
    Devon 2.3%
    Cornwall 2.2%
    North Yorkshire 1.2%

    Europe (South) 14.3%
    North Italy 11.1%
    Aegean 3.2%

    Europe (North and West) 8.2%
    Scandinavia 8.2%

    Europe (East) 6.4%
    West Balkans 2.6%
    East Balkans 2%
    Finland and Western Russia 1.8%
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 04-25-2019 at 12:10 AM.
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    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
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    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Wow! Dad's results just changed a lot! Now is it because of their testing, or is it because of the responses to the survey questions, or both? In any event, I think it's more accurate than before, and quite similar to Ancestry.com.
    Awesome! Thank you for posting, I've checked my own results and they have changed too, they are both more accurate and less so (no winning with me ), they picked up my German but decided to throw in Tuscany, a region which I have no ancestry from (at least not within the past 200-250 years). I'll have to pick it apart tomorrow when I have some time, English sub regions still a hot mess, but it is cool that we are seeing updates. I hope members that haven't put in a survey will be updated soon too.

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    Edit: They are also pretty well in line with AncestryDNA:

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    Last edited by BackToTheForests; 04-25-2019 at 12:28 AM.
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    MtDNA U5a2c3a Betty Hallissy b.1801 Passage West, Cork, Ireland

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