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    Map of pre-Corded Ware culture (>2900 BCE) instances of Y-haplogroup R1a

    If anyone reading this is a member/editor at Wikipedia, please edit its R1a entry with this info and map. It's a disgrace that these ancient R1a samples haven't yet received any mention there.

    Map of pre-Corded Ware culture (>2900 BCE) instances of Y-haplogroup R1a


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    We have two R1a-M17 samples reported for the Early Neolitihic cemetery in Lokomotiv (Baikal region), dated to about 6700 BP, IIRC.
    See here:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52409X16306927

    Also, I would mark both West-Central Europe and Levant on your map, as there were many people who believed R1a originated from one of those two locations. In fact, many of those people are still very active here and on Eurogenes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michał View Post
    We have two R1a-M17 samples reported for the Early Neolitihic cemetery in Lokomotiv (Baikal region), dated to about 6700 BP, IIRC.
    See here:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52409X16306927
    Those are PCR results, and they haven't been corroborated by shotgun/capture data which has and is about to be published soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Those are PCR results, and they haven't been corroborated by shotgun/capture data which has and is about to be published soon.
    That new paper (I guess you mean Damgaard et al.) includes only 2 male samples from Lokomotive, while the earlier study had 7 males from this particular location, including 2 cases of R1a-M17.
    I don't think it is fair to exclude that data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michał View Post
    That new paper (I guess you mean Damgaard et al.) includes only 2 male samples from Lokomotive, while the earlier study had 7 males from this particular location, including 2 cases of R1a-M17.
    I don't think it is fair to exclude that data.
    I'll include it if it's shown to be correct with a more reliable method. Those R1a results might be due to contamination. Impossible to say with PCR.

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    .....
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    There is also this one:

    Ukraine_N1, 4452-4350 BC, Vovnigi 2, Ukraine, R1a1-M459* (xYP1272,M198), JonesCurrentBiology2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    There is also this one:

    Ukraine_N1, 4452-4350 BC, Vovnigi 2, Ukraine, R1a1-M459* (xYP1272,M198), JonesCurrentBiology2017
    That's a duplicate of this one...

    Ukraine_Neolithic I1378, I2a2a1b1, MathiesonNature2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    That's a duplicate of this one...

    Ukraine_Neolithic I1378, I2a2a1b1, MathiesonNature2018
    But how did you conclude which of these haplogroup designations is correct? Shouldn't the shotgun sequenced one be more reliable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    But how did you conclude which of these haplogroup designations is correct? Shouldn't the shotgun sequenced one be more reliable?
    I'm not sure what you mean, since that sample's shotgun and capture sequences aren't listed as belonging to R1a anywhere that I'm aware of.

    But UDG-treated capture data is indeed more reliable than shotgun data.

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