Page 15 of 18 FirstFirst ... 51314151617 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 150 of 178

Thread: Ancient G25 World Neolithic-Eneolithic Calculator

  1. #141
    Registered Users
    Posts
    292
    Sex
    Ethnicity
    Assyrian
    Y-DNA (P)
    G1a
    mtDNA (M)
    I5b1

    Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    Maykop has EHG/ANE+CHG (pseudo-steppe/eastern affinity) admixture that is why. There is no sense in modelling East Europeans with Yamnaya instead of Corded Ware that is like modelling British with Baltic_BA instead of Bell Beakers. Baltic people and some Russians have 10-15% extra HG but Poles, Ukrainians and Central/South Russians not more than 5%. If you use Progress_Eneolithic or Yamnaya only most of their extra HG is EHG-like and not SHG-like but HGs in Ukraine or the Baltic were very SHG-like to they unlikely got it from HG populations west of Russia.
    Yes true, but it's not exceptional to me if certain Eastern European populations had some Maykop influence.
    Although replacing Maykop with a sample with limited Steppe/EHG(Kura Araxes) input it still gives Ukrainians some extra post-BA West Asian admixture.

    "distance%=6.0373"

    Ukrainian

    CWC_Baltic_early,45.2
    Poland_GAC,36.8
    Ukraine_N,11.8
    Kura-Araxes_Velikent,6.2
    EHG,0

  2. #142
    Registered Users
    Posts
    3,750
    Sex
    Location
    Zagreb
    Ethnicity
    Kaikavian Croatian
    Nationality
    Croatian
    Y-DNA (P)
    I2a1a2b (Y5596>A815)
    mtDNA (M)
    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia Austrian Empire European Union
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    In Ukraine there were movements from the balkan (Thracians, Greeks, Vlachs,..) but i don't really see a migration from the Caucasus. Only Scythians/Sarmatians could brought some extra CHG from the Caucasus but this is already long after Maykop and Scythian/Sarmatians did not had that much Maykop admixture actually.


    "sample": "Ukrainian:Average",
    "fit": 1.3885,
    "Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 54.17,
    "Baltic_IA": 26.67,
    "Balkans_IA": 11.67,
    "Sarmatian_Urals": 7.5,


    "sample": "Russian_Kursk:Average",
    "fit": 1.4504,
    "Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 51.67,
    "Baltic_IA": 28.33,
    "Sarmatian_Urals": 14.17,
    "Balkans_IA": 5.83,

    "sample": "Sarmatian_Urals:Average",
    "fit": 2.8078,
    "Sintashta_MLBA": 60,
    "Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov": 19.17,
    "Sarazm_Eneolithic": 12.5,
    "Maykop": 8.33,
    Didn't you forget the Alans:

    [1] "distance%=1.0796"


    Russia_Alan


    STEPPE-Eneolithic,34
    MAYKOP,30
    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,15
    HUNTERS-CHG,7.6
    LEVANT-Neolithic,5
    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,4.8
    SOUTHEAST-ASIA,2.6

    I think that Alans had some impact on the Slavs.

    ---


    Maykop in my calc gets:

    [1] "distance%=3.3684"


    Maykop


    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,31.8
    HUNTERS-CHG,25.2
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,18.4
    IRAN-PASTORALISTS_Neolithic,17.8
    LEVANT-Neolithic,5.4
    HUNTERS-West_Siberia_Neolithic,1.4

    [1] "distance%=1.7701"


    Maykop_Late


    HUNTERS-CHG,44.4
    LEVANT-Neolithic,22.8
    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,14.4
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,12.4
    IRAN-PASTORALISTS_Neolithic,5.6
    HUNTERS-West_Siberia_Neolithic,0.4
    Last edited by ph2ter; 04-10-2019 at 06:50 AM.
     
    All simple calculations, maps and plots I make for free, but for more complicated maps and calculations I ask for a donation via Hidden Content PayPalHidden Content account

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to ph2ter For This Useful Post:

     Alain (04-10-2019)

  4. #143
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,536
    Sex
    Ethnicity
    Indo-europeen
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1a-Y33 Kurgan/ CWC
    mtDNA (M)
    H76

    European Union Poland Germany Lithuania Romania Ukraine
    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    Didn't you forget the Alans:

    [1] "distance%=1.0796"


    Russia_Alan


    STEPPE-Eneolithic,34
    MAYKOP,30
    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,15
    HUNTERS-CHG,7.6
    LEVANT-Neolithic,5
    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,4.8
    SOUTHEAST-ASIA,2.6

    I think that Alans had some impact on the Slavs.

    ---


    Maykop in my calc gets:

    [1] "distance%=3.3684"


    Maykop


    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,31.8
    HUNTERS-CHG,25.2
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,18.4
    IRAN-PASTORALISTS_Neolithic,17.8
    LEVANT-Neolithic,5.4
    HUNTERS-West_Siberia_Neolithic,1.4

    [1] "distance%=1.7701"


    Maykop_Late


    HUNTERS-CHG,44.4
    LEVANT-Neolithic,22.8
    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,14.4
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,12.4
    IRAN-PASTORALISTS_Neolithic,5.6
    HUNTERS-West_Siberia_Neolithic,0.4
    there you are right the Slavs have a little bit absorbed some of Iranian peoples (Alan, Scythian ..) Most the Tatars (Crimea, Kazan ..) but most and Volgabolgars (Chuvash) I think in East Slavs that you have absorbed a little bit some Scythian and Alans at the Western Slavs are a little bit avars (Slavic, Iranian Uralic mixture) as West Slavs have also absorbed Germanic tribes and Celts but normal Eastern Europe is a big Plain of History of rulers and migration
    Alain Dad
    Y-DNA R1a-Y33 Eastern Corderd Ware Culture Baltoslavic/ old Pruzzen
    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

    My FTDNA autosomal

    East Europe 82%
    Southeast Europe 14%
    Finland 2%
    West and Central Europe 1%

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Alain For This Useful Post:

     ph2ter (04-10-2019)

  6. #144
    Registered Users
    Posts
    3,750
    Sex
    Location
    Zagreb
    Ethnicity
    Kaikavian Croatian
    Nationality
    Croatian
    Y-DNA (P)
    I2a1a2b (Y5596>A815)
    mtDNA (M)
    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia Austrian Empire European Union
    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    Maykop has EHG/ANE+CHG (pseudo-steppe/eastern affinity) admixture that is why. There is no sense in modelling East Europeans with Yamnaya instead of Corded Ware that is like modelling British with Baltic_BA instead of Bell Beakers. Baltic people and some Russians have 10-15% extra HG but Poles, Ukrainians and Central/South Russians not more than 5%. If you use Progress_Eneolithic or Yamnaya only most of their extra HG is EHG-like and not SHG-like but HGs in Ukraine or the Baltic were very SHG-like to they unlikely got it from HG populations west of Russia.
    But Maykop beyond Steppe Eneolithic have very little other HG except CHG:

    [1] "distance%=3.3684"


    Maykop


    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,31.8
    HUNTERS-CHG,25.2
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,18.4
    IRAN-PASTORALISTS_Neolithic,17.8
    LEVANT-Neolithic,5.4
    HUNTERS-West_Siberia_Neolithic,1.4
     
    All simple calculations, maps and plots I make for free, but for more complicated maps and calculations I ask for a donation via Hidden Content PayPalHidden Content account

  7. #145
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,835
    Sex
    Ethnicity
    Irish
    Nationality
    Irish
    Y-DNA (P)
    M222 (S588)
    mtDNA (M)
    J1c3f

    Ireland Australia Ireland County Tipperary Ireland Munster
    From looking at this Ballynahatty or the Irish Neolithic doesn't appear to have any input in the present day Irish.

    "sample": "Custom:AGUser_Jessie",
    "fit": 3.2027,
    "Poland_GAC": 50,
    "Yamnaya_Samara": 50,
    "Ireland_MN": 0,

    "sample": "Irish:Average",
    "fit": 2.8694,
    "Poland_GAC": 50.83,
    "Yamnaya_Samara": 49.17,
    "Ireland_MN": 0,

  8. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Jessie For This Useful Post:

     Aroon1916 (04-11-2019),  Hurricane (04-14-2019),  JMcB (04-12-2019)

  9. #146
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,277
    Sex
    Location
    United States
    Ethnicity
    Albanian
    Nationality
    American
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1a-L1029>Y133383
    mtDNA (M)
    H11a2*-146+
    Y-DNA (M)
    J2b-L283>PH1751
    mtDNA (P)
    T1a1I

    Albania Kosovo Macedonia United States of America Sweden Greece
    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    .......
    Hey ph2ter could you run my coordinates if it’s no trouble?

    Thank you in advance!


    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Dibran_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Dibran,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Dibran For This Useful Post:

     Nino90 (04-14-2019)

  11. #147
    Registered Users
    Posts
    3,750
    Sex
    Location
    Zagreb
    Ethnicity
    Kaikavian Croatian
    Nationality
    Croatian
    Y-DNA (P)
    I2a1a2b (Y5596>A815)
    mtDNA (M)
    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia Austrian Empire European Union
    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Hey ph2ter could you run my coordinates if it’s no trouble?

    Thank you in advance!


    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Dibran_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Dibran,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017
    [1] "distance%=2.8169"


    Dibran_scaled


    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,57.4
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,18
    HUNTERS-SHG,10.4
    MAYKOP,8.2
    HUNTERS-CHG,4.4
    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,1.6
     
    All simple calculations, maps and plots I make for free, but for more complicated maps and calculations I ask for a donation via Hidden Content PayPalHidden Content account

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to ph2ter For This Useful Post:

     Dibran (04-14-2019)

  13. #148
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,277
    Sex
    Location
    United States
    Ethnicity
    Albanian
    Nationality
    American
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1a-L1029>Y133383
    mtDNA (M)
    H11a2*-146+
    Y-DNA (M)
    J2b-L283>PH1751
    mtDNA (P)
    T1a1I

    Albania Kosovo Macedonia United States of America Sweden Greece
    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    [1] "distance%=2.8169"


    Dibran_scaled


    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,57.4
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,18
    HUNTERS-SHG,10.4
    MAYKOP,8.2
    LHUNTERS-CHG,4.4
    FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic,1.6
    Thank you!

    What does this one represent ? HUNTERS-SHG,10.4
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

  14. #149
    Registered Users
    Posts
    3,750
    Sex
    Location
    Zagreb
    Ethnicity
    Kaikavian Croatian
    Nationality
    Croatian
    Y-DNA (P)
    I2a1a2b (Y5596>A815)
    mtDNA (M)
    HV0-T195C!

    Croatia Austrian Empire European Union
    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Thank you!

    What does this one represent ? HUNTERS-SHG,10.4
    Scandinavian Hunter Gatherers. You got them probably from your Slavic part.
     
    All simple calculations, maps and plots I make for free, but for more complicated maps and calculations I ask for a donation via Hidden Content PayPalHidden Content account

  15. #150
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,252
    Sex
    Location
    Bay Area
    Nationality
    American
    Y-DNA (P)
    E-BY14160
    mtDNA (M)
    J1c
    mtDNA (P)
    I1a1

    England Italy Sweden Netherlands
    [1] "distance%=3.9509"

    ChrisDNA_scaled

    FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic,38.6
    STEPPE-Eneolithic,37.2
    FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic,10.8
    HUNTERS-WHG,10.2
    HUNTERS-SHG,2.8
    SOUTHEAST-AFRICA,0.4
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


    E-V13 => E-PH1246 => E-BY14160
    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to digital_noise For This Useful Post:

     Nino90 (04-16-2019)

Page 15 of 18 FirstFirst ... 51314151617 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. My World K=12 G25 calculator
    By ph2ter in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 84
    Last Post: 12-23-2019, 02:32 AM
  2. New K30 / K47 World Calculator
    By lukaszM in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 2782
    Last Post: 08-23-2019, 03:49 PM
  3. K15 World - new DIY calculator
    By lukaszM in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 264
    Last Post: 03-15-2019, 08:26 PM
  4. Eurasia 14 - Neolithic Calculator
    By Kurd in forum Autosomal (auDNA)
    Replies: 229
    Last Post: 05-07-2018, 12:54 AM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-25-2017, 10:40 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •