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  1. #1331
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    is mta really a scam?

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    I've purchased a King Level membership on Mothers' day discount and had a big save in, if you have different ethnic background on paternal and maternal sides the calculator tries to mix them and find an average modern population that you,'re close to. I'm not Azeri or Kurdish but bringing different geographic backgrounds together this results are shown.
    indir.png
    1. Azeri (6.905)
    2. Turk (7.170)
    3. Turkish (9.316)
    4. Kurdish (9.617)
    5. Iranian (10.31)
    6. Kumyk (11.69)
    7. Kurd (11.84)
    8. Cirkassian (12.48)

    My outlier samples show i can not be classified under one single population

    82. Hun Nobility Hungary Kecskemet-Mindszentidulo (450 AD) ..... 20.87 - HUNper2 -

    100. Rugii Tribe Oder-Vistula (135 AD) ..... 22.54 - PCA44 - ?

    116. Skeleton Lake Alan Outlier Worshipper (830 AD) ..... 24.06 - I6944 -

    127. Historical Holmens Church Copenhagen (1750 AD) ..... 24.46 - M6P

    135. Iron Age Katelai (900 BC) ..... 24.7 - I12463 - ?
    Last edited by aysenuryetgin; 05-12-2020 at 09:23 AM.

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    Well, i don't consider it serious. Just look at their Web App UI(it looks like from the 2000s) and it tells you how much serious you should take them.
    Last edited by Hawk; 05-30-2020 at 05:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    is mta really a scam?
    not sure

    I was told it is a company in Switzerland , run by Swiss-italians ( must be SE Switzerland area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Italian )


    my results have not changed since January

    Roman + Illyrian (5.012)
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (6.781)
    Gaul + Roman (6.886)
    Gaul + Roman Hispania (6.926)
    Gaul + Gallo-Roman (7.254)
    Gallo-Roman (7.332)
    Illyrian (8.937)
    Roman (9.895)
    Gaul (11.97)


    my oldest is

    34. Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol (2775 BC) ..... 14.31 - I3499 -
    Top 98 % match vs all users


    my closest is

    1. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 5.076 - R1 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users .................................a woman
    Last edited by vettor; 05-30-2020 at 05:56 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-L22 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

  6. #1335
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    Asturias Portugal 1143 Portugal 1485 Portugal Order of Christ
    They say they have updated modern references, but as an Iberian I can't see anything new, it's still the old K15 Eurogenes Oracle ones. I was hoping to see what K15 would do with more references, but alas MTA disappoints once again.

     

    MTA
    Code:
    1. Spanish_Aragon (4.667)
    2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (5.124)
    3. Spanish_Valencia (5.891)
    4. Spanish_Andalucia (6.050)
    5. Spanish_Cantabria (7.072)
    6. Southwest_French (7.087)
    7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.858)
    8. Spanish_Murcia (8.027)
    K15
    Code:
    1 Spanish_Aragon @ 4.667961
    2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.150952
    3 Spanish_Valencia @ 5.897346
    4 Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.064717
    5 Spanish_Cantabria @ 7.080356
    6 Southwest_French @ 7.101790
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7.859376
    8 Spanish_Murcia @ 8.023123




    As for ancients, which K15 wasn't originally meant for, nothing really surprising because we already know from G25 what to expect. Except they labelled some Gallic samples as 'Aquitani' maybe because they are closest to modern Iberians.

    Aquitani + Roman Hispania (3.74)
    Al-Andalus + Aquitani (6.1)
    Aquitani + Illyrian (6.375)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.222)
    Etruscan + Illyrian (7.641)
    Roman Hispania (8.8)
    Aquitani (9.758)
    Al-Andalus (9.912)
    Etruscan (11.02)
    Illyrian (11.66)



    I won't bother you with matches because they are crackpottery
    Last edited by Ruderico; 05-31-2020 at 12:05 PM.
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273 Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
    mtDNA - H20. Monica Vieira, b. circa 1700 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Hidden Content
    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content

    [1] "distance%=1.3492"

    Ruderico

    Celt+Iberia,85
    North_African,10.2
    Rome_Imperial,4.8

  7. #1336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    They say they have updated modern references, but as an Iberian I can't see anything new, it's still the old K15 Eurogenes Oracle ones. I was hoping to see what K15 would do with more references, but alas MTA disappoints once again.

     

    MTA
    Code:
    1. Spanish_Aragon (4.667)
    2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (5.124)
    3. Spanish_Valencia (5.891)
    4. Spanish_Andalucia (6.050)
    5. Spanish_Cantabria (7.072)
    6. Southwest_French (7.087)
    7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.858)
    8. Spanish_Murcia (8.027)
    K15
    Code:
    1 Spanish_Aragon @ 4.667961
    2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.150952
    3 Spanish_Valencia @ 5.897346
    4 Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.064717
    5 Spanish_Cantabria @ 7.080356
    6 Southwest_French @ 7.101790
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7.859376
    8 Spanish_Murcia @ 8.023123


    PCAs:
    https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.p...wxtpdkn&s=pcam
    https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.p...99433110996183

    As for ancients, which K15 wasn't originally meant for, nothing really surprising because we already know from G25 what to expect. Except they labelled some Gallic samples as 'Aquitani' maybe because they are closest to modern Iberians.

    Aquitani + Roman Hispania (3.74)
    Al-Andalus + Aquitani (6.1)
    Aquitani + Illyrian (6.375)
    Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.222)
    Etruscan + Illyrian (7.641)
    Roman Hispania (8.8)
    Aquitani (9.758)
    Al-Andalus (9.912)
    Etruscan (11.02)
    Illyrian (11.66)


    I won't bother you with matches because that's crackpottery
    Nothing new for mine either. It's pretty disappointing. Also they've added so many features that it's just a total headache to navigate.
    One thing I do like though is the 3D PCAs. Maybe one day we can get something like that for Global 25.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, Eastern German 12.5%, Eastern European (Likely Polish possibly including Romanian) 12.5%, French 7.81%, Native American (Saulteaux and Assiniboine) 2.34%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be traced with certainty. With certainty, there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English.

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  9. #1337
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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Nothing new for mine either. It's pretty disappointing. Also they've added so many features that it's just a total headache to navigate.
    One thing I do like though is the 3D PCAs. Maybe one day we can get something like that for Global 25.
    The one interesting thing is that you can see what distances K15 has between their regional/national references, including ancient ones (which aren't very relevant, but still)

    Here's the list for Portugal. It's what you'd expect, K15 is still pretty decent for modern samples, despite its age.
     

    Code:
    1. Spanish_Galicia (3.091)
    2. Spanish_Extremadura (3.134)
    3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (4.148)
    4. Spanish_Cataluna (4.157)
    5. Spanish_Murcia (4.354)
    6. Spanish_Cantabria (7.296)
    7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.784)
    8. Spanish_Valencia (7.803)
    
    
    1. *Visigoth (4.783)
    2. *Etruscan (4.783)
    3. Visigoth + Etruscan (4.783)
    4. Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (4.844)
    5. Visigoth + Illyrian (5.931)
    6. Etruscan + Illyrian (6.077)
    7. Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.099)
    8. Gallo-Roman (7.383)
    9. Illyrian (7.987)
    10. Al-Andalus (9.007)
    11. Etruscan (10.55)
    12. Visigoth (10.6)
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>Y134097>Y134104>Y168273 Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1690 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal - Stonemason, miller.
    mtDNA - H20. Monica Vieira, b. circa 1700 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Hidden Content
    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content

    [1] "distance%=1.3492"

    Ruderico

    Celt+Iberia,85
    North_African,10.2
    Rome_Imperial,4.8

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  11. #1338
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    U2a1a
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    HM69

    United States of America India

    It shows me closest to the Roopkund samples R10, R68 reclassified as Karkota empire.
    The first one is closest to Jew_India population. I get big bunch of Iranian & Polish Jew hits on GED and see atleast 1 Indian Jews so this is not a surprise.

    R10 shows up 19.6% of Balochi:HGDP00078 & 3% Ket but is fairly distant to populations

    Also shows bunch of Iranian, Tatar Scythian like Central Asian, Alans/Sarmatian/Hun, Armenian, Anatolian/Levant/Hittite samples which I was expecting based on hits on GEDMatch
    Last edited by tipirneni; 05-30-2020 at 08:03 PM.
    Y: H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)
    found 2875 BCE -> Jiroft/IVC Periphery 11459 Shahr-i-Sokte BA2
    mtDNA:U2a1a

    G25 Ancients Dist 0.79 IND_Roopkund_A 51.05 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 46.64 MAR_Iberomaurusian2.04PAK_Katelai_IA0.19 TKM_Gonur2_BA 0.08

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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    So im from Sweden with I1a Y dna and I2 mtdna

    Ancient Populations
    Viking (7.816)
    Viking + Longobard (7.849)
    Viking Icelandic (11.08)
    Viking Icelandic + Longobard (11.19)
    Viking Norwegian + Longobard (11.47)
    Viking Norwegian (11.91)
    Viking Danish + Longobard (12.05)
    Longobard (13.0)
    Viking Danish (13.22)

    Modern Populations
    1. North_Swedish (5.505)
    2. Southwest_Finnish (10.04)
    3. Swedish (10.17)
    4. German_Central (10.24)
    5. Norwegian (10.30)
    6. Finnish (11.73)
    7. West_Norwegian (12.39)
    8. Danish (12.56)

    Funny thing is that i get more hits with R1b(53%) and R1a(22%) with the "Y-dna Distribution" compared to the I1(5,5%)

    Here are some of the best hits on ancient matches

    1. Late Neolithic Aesch Switzerland (2500 BC) ..... 5.303 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    7. Czech Radovesice XVIII Axe CWC (2450 BC) ..... 7.617 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users
    Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (1860 BC) ..... 5.392 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    4. Dzielnica Bronze Age Poland (2160 BC) ..... 6.66 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    29. Sarmatian Caspian Steppes (712 BC) ..... 9.904 -
    Top 100 % match vs all users

    3. Alemannic Bavaria (495 AD) ..... 5.749 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    15. Sarmatian Steppes (220 AD) ..... 9.071 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    8. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 7.778 -
    Top 98 % match vs all users

    10. Viking Denmark Odense (1044 AD) ..... 7.816 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    21. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.515 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users
    Last edited by Somberlain89; 06-06-2020 at 12:18 AM.

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    R1b L21+ L371+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somberlain89 View Post
    So im from Sweden with I1a Y dna and I2 mtdna

    Ancient Populations
    Viking (7.816)
    Viking + Longobard (7.849)
    Viking Icelandic (11.08)
    Viking Icelandic + Longobard (11.19)
    Viking Norwegian + Longobard (11.47)
    Viking Norwegian (11.91)
    Viking Danish + Longobard (12.05)
    Longobard (13.0)
    Viking Danish (13.22)

    Modern Populations
    1. North_Swedish (5.505)
    2. Southwest_Finnish (10.04)
    3. Swedish (10.17)
    4. German_Central (10.24)
    5. Norwegian (10.30)
    6. Finnish (11.73)
    7. West_Norwegian (12.39)
    8. Danish (12.56)

    Funny thing is that i get more hits with R1b(53%) and R1a(22%) with the "Y-dna Distribution" compared to the I1(5,5%)

    Here are some of the best hits on ancient matches

    1. Late Neolithic Aesch Switzerland (2500 BC) ..... 5.303 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    7. Czech Radovesice XVIII Axe CWC (2450 BC) ..... 7.617 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users
    Eurasian Steppes Sintashta (1860 BC) ..... 5.392 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    4. Dzielnica Bronze Age Poland (2160 BC) ..... 6.66 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    29. Sarmatian Caspian Steppes (712 BC) ..... 9.904 -
    Top 100 % match vs all users

    3. Alemannic Bavaria (495 AD) ..... 5.749 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    15. Sarmatian Steppes (220 AD) ..... 9.071 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    8. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 7.778 -
    Top 98 % match vs all users

    10. Viking Denmark Odense (1044 AD) ..... 7.816 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    21. Viking Norse Iceland (935 AD) ..... 9.515 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users
    Interesting results and thanks for posting. Welcome to the forum and please post something in the I1 section if you know about your I-M253 subclades or just want to find out more regarding your Y ancestry.
    Living DNA's former Cautious mode:
    Wales-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    North England-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,100 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales
    Mother's Y: traces to Llanvair Discoed, Wales

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