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    Sorry for the double post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Just to expand on this, as I thought this was interesting as well. It seems very consistent that the "Northern Germanic" "Nordic" or whatever we call them now types are similar enough to the Insular Celtic type which you and SGDavies both represent that when given the option to model an individual of largely or purely Insular Celtic ancestry these calculators will almost always choose to incorporate some kind of "Heavily Germanic/Nordic/Whatever" sample or population to model an Insular Celtic individual as. The exceptions of course are on the more recently fine tuned commercial calculators with numerous references from places like Ireland.

    I think it is beneficial that we note this pattern, as we see people of mixed backgrounds that include "Insular Celtic" heritage/ancestry getting Scandinavian or some kind of "Heavy" "Germanic" or "Nordic" Northern European type. It seems to me that this can be mistaken for their Insular Celtic ancestry which doesn't always appear as such.
    I think we are very fortunate to have so many forum members from "less exotic" backgrounds so that we have these points of reference!
    Mine was Frank, Lombard, and Vandal, which all seems very Germanic, yet my closest population was Welsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascio View Post
    If you check the FAQ on the MyTrueAncestry website you will find the explanation for the red and blue dots on the maps.
    Answer
    Blue dots link to a clearly defined set of ancient peoples. Red dots refer to ancient samples where identity is difficult to determine based on archaelogical evidence.
    Faded dots mean distant connection, brighter dots mean very close DNA distance to you


    I see no faded
    I see big dots and smaller dots
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    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    Mine was Frank, Lombard, and Vandal, which all seems very Germanic, yet my closest population was Welsh.
    I had the exact same!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Answer
    Blue dots link to a clearly defined set of ancient peoples. Red dots refer to ancient samples where identity is difficult to determine based on archaelogical evidence.
    Faded dots mean distant connection, brighter dots mean very close DNA distance to you


    I see no faded
    I see big dots and smaller dots
    Maybe you personally don't have any distant connections (ie faded dots), only close DNA distances.

    Contact the site on info@mytrueancestry.com.

    They reply to any questions very quickly, usually the same day.
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    Ancestry DNA:

    Vandal + Frank (4.865)
    Vandal + Longobard (5.047)
    Vandal (7.678)
    Longobard (7.754)
    Frank (8.46)

    1. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (4.077)
    2. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (5.973)
    3. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (7.678)
    4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.754)
    5. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.195)
    6. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.383)
    7. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.46)
    8. Pict (670 AD) (9.015)
    9. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (9.163)
    10. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (9.223)
    11. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (9.253)
    12. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (9.275)
    13. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.668)
    14. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (10.19)
    15. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (10.4)
    16. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (10.45)
    17. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (10.48)
    18. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.52)
    19. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (10.84)
    20. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (10.9)

    1. Southwest_English (4.076)
    2. Southeast_English (5.709)
    3. Orcadian (6.045)
    4. Welsh (6.289)
    5. West_Scottish (7.092)
    6. Irish (7.265)
    7. North_Dutch (8.297)
    8. Danish (8.927)

    Living DNA:

    Celt + Longobard (6.315)
    Celt + Frank (7.539)
    Longobard (8.688)
    Celt (9.14)
    Frank (10.29)

    1. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (7.505)
    2. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.945)
    3. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.019)
    4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.688)
    5. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (8.8)
    6. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (9.008)
    7. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (9.108)
    8. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (9.14)
    9. Pict (670 AD) (9.238)
    10. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (9.309)
    11. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.333)
    12. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.506)
    13. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.536)
    14. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.645)
    15. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (9.924)
    16. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (9.975)
    17. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.29)
    18. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.5)
    19. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (10.82)
    20. Bell Beaker Southern France (2120 BC) (10.95)

    1. Southwest_English (5.000)
    2. Southeast_English (5.341)
    3. Irish (6.490)
    4. West_Scottish (6.531)
    5. Orcadian (6.720)
    6. Danish (9.105)
    7. North_Dutch (9.241)
    8. Welsh (9.597)
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    They've done some updates and now I have a list of 60 matches or links to ancient populations:
    Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

    1. Pict (670 AD) (4.452) - CL83
    2. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.104) - CL92
    3. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.469) - I5383
    4. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.941) - SZ15
    5. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (6.126) - Hinxton 4
    6. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (6.764) - VDP-A6
    7. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (6.875) - 6DRIF-18
    8. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (7.22) - Unknown
    9. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (7.239) - Hinxton HS3
    10. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (7.539) - I3875
    11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.546) - SZ12
    12. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.637) - CL146
    13. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.64) - SZ14
    14. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (7.847) - CL145
    15. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.95) - AED_249
    16. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.037) - 6DRIF-23
    17. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.04) - CL84
    18. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (8.084) - NW_255
    19. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.12) - SZ4
    20. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (8.14) - Rathlin2
    21. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (8.208) - Shohola
    22. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.313) - ALH_1
    23. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.569) - 6DRIF-3
    24. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (8.625) - DA119
    25. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.781) - Sigtuna grt035
    26. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.802) - SZ7
    27. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.85) - SZ22
    28. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (8.853) - Hinxton 1
    29. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.935) - Sigtuna stg021
    30. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.941) - SZ23
    31. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (9.008) - ALH_10
    32. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.114) - SZ8
    33. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (9.485) - SZ38
    34. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (9.594) - Rise577
    35. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.62) - I0112
    36. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.788) - Hinxton HS1
    37. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.91) - SZ9
    38. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (9.952) - Rise61
    39. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.13) - CL93
    40. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (10.43) - SZ16
    41. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.6) - 3DRIF-16
    42. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (10.7) - SZ11
    43. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.81) - CL151
    44. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.82) - 6DRIF-21
    45. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (11.2) - Rise150
    46. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.21) - SZ2
    47. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (11.25) - Sigtuna 84001
    48. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (11.32) - BIM_33
    49. Ireland Copper Age (1635 BC) (11.33) - Rathlin3
    50. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) (11.35) - I0099
    51. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.59) - SZ24
    52. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.9) - SZ13
    53. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) (11.92) - I4071
    54. Early Viking Sweden (500 AD) (12.08) - Rise174 Oxie7
    55. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (12.11) - Hinxton3 HS2
    56. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (12.17) - STR_316
    57. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (12.45) - Rise47
    58. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (12.51) - I0806
    59. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) (12.78) - Rathlin1
    60. Viking Iceland P109 (935 AD) (12.78) - SVK-A1


    Longobard + Saxon (3.065)
    Celt + Longobard (3.315)
    Longobard (5.104)
    Celt (6.764)
    Saxon (7.239)

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    1. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (5.58) - Hinxton 4
    2. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (5.716) - I5383
    3. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (5.849) - CL92
    4. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (6.12) - VDP-A6
    5. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (6.77) - Hinxton HS3
    6. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (6.794) - Unknown
    7. Pict (670 AD) (7.082) - CL83
    8. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.105) - SZ4
    9. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (7.14) - SZ15
    10. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (7.147) - Rathlin2
    11. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.155) - ALH_10
    12. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (7.526) - AED_249
    13. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (7.814) - 6DRIF-23
    14. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.025) - 6DRIF-3
    15. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.102) - Sigtuna stg021
    16. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (8.116) - I3875
    17. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (8.284) - Rise577
    18. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.293) - 6DRIF-18
    19. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (8.299) - 3DRIF-16
    20. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (8.307) - NW_255
    21. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.372) - ALH_1
    22. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.659) - CL145
    23. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (8.697) - Sigtuna grt035
    24. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.701) - SZ38
    25. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) (9.094) - Rise47
    26. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (9.35) - Hinxton 1
    27. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (9.366) - I0112
    28. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (9.576) - STR_316
    29. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.594) - SZ14
    30. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.831) - CL146

    31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.13) - SZ12
    32. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (10.23) - Hinxton HS1
    33. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (10.26) - Shohola
    34. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (10.33) - SZ23
    35. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (10.34) - DA119
    36. Ireland Copper Age (1950 BC) (10.36) - Rathlin1
    37. Viking Iceland P109 (935 AD) (10.36) - SVK-A1
    38. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.43) - SZ9
    39. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.46) - SZ22
    40. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.79) - 6DRIF-21
    41. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.89) - CL84
    42. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.9) - 6DRIF-22
    43. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.06) - SZ8
    44. Bell Beaker Germany (2250 BC) (11.12) - I0806
    45. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (11.26) - Rise150
    46. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.33) - SZ2
    47. Early Viking Sweden (500 AD) (11.36) - Rise174 Oxie7
    48. Ireland Copper Age (1635 BC) (11.42) - Rathlin3
    49. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (11.55) - SZ16
    50. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.72) - SZ7
    51. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (12.27) - Rise61
    52. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (12.31) - SZ11
    53. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (12.36) - Sigtuna 84001
    54. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (12.65) - BIM_33
    55. Estonia Iron Age (0 AD) (12.77) - Rise00
    56. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (12.86) - CL93
    57. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (12.94) - CL151
    58. Unetice Bohemia (1875 BC) (13.19) - Rise154
    59. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) (13.25) - I0099
    60. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (13.31) - SZ42
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