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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretExplorer View Post
    The Scythians were a very mixed people. An originally indo-european people, who mixed with other peoples on the border of Europe-Asia. Yes, it's hard to classify them.
    but the direct descendants there are Tatars and Volga Finns is right on the borders of Europe and Asia have mixed examples of Scythian Ukraine or Hungary deswgen also different clusters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Dad's updated results:
    Ancient:
    Gaul + Frank (2.664)
    Celt + Gaul (4.809)
    Frank (4.911)
    Gaul (6.914)
    Celt (11.41)
     

    Modern:
    1. South_Dutch (4.181)
    2. French (4.931)
    3. West_German (8.481)
    4. North_German (10.36)
    5. Southwest_English (10.36)
    6. East_German (10.98)
    7. Southeast_English (11.22)
    8. Welsh (12.07)

    Ancient Individuals:
    1. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (4.911)
    2. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (6.914)
    3. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.312)
    4. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (7.713)
    5. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (8.021)
    6. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (8.238)
    7. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.379)
    8. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (8.991)
    9. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (9.485)
    10. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (9.676)
    11. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (9.748)
    12. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (9.758)
    13. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (9.765)
    14. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.951)
    15. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (10.04)
    16. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (10.44)
    17. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.66)
    18. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (10.85)
    19. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.41)
    20. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.9)
    21. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (12.68)
    22. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (12.72)
    23. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.07)
    24. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (13.12)
    25. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (13.45)
    26. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (13.78)
    27. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.93)
    28. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (14.01)
    29. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (14.03)
    30. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (14.06)
    31. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (14.08)
    32. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (14.19)
    33. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (14.2)
    34. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (14.26)
    35. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (14.29)
    36. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (14.32)
    37. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (14.46)
    38. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (14.51)
    39. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (14.53)
    40. Halstatt (775 BC) (14.54)

    Map:
    Attachment 30311

    New results:
    Gaul + Frank (2.664)
    Visigoth + Frank (2.985)
    Frank (4.911)
    Gaul (6.914)
    Visigoth (7.913)

    1. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (4.911) - [Upgrade for more details]
    2. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (6.914) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.312) - [Upgrade for more details]
    4. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (7.713) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (7.913) - [Upgrade for more details]
    6. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (8.021) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (8.238) - [Upgrade for more details]
    8. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (8.379) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (8.866) - [Upgrade for more details]
    10. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (8.991) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.461) - [Upgrade for more details]
    12. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (9.485) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (9.676) - [Upgrade for more details]
    14. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (9.748) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (9.758) - [Upgrade for more details]
    16. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (9.765) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.951) - [Upgrade for more details]
    18. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (10.04) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (10.44) - [Upgrade for more details]
    20. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.66) -
     
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    21. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (10.85) - [Upgrade for more details]
    22. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
    23. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.9) - [Upgrade for more details]
    24. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (12.31) - [Upgrade for more details]
    25. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (12.68) - [Upgrade for more details]
    26. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (12.72) - [Upgrade for more details]
    27. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.07) - [Upgrade for more details]
    28. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (13.12) - [Upgrade for more details]
    29. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (13.45) - [Upgrade for more details]
    30. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (13.78) - [Upgrade for more details]
    31. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.93) - [Upgrade for more details]
    32. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (14.01) - [Upgrade for more details]
    33. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (14.03) - [Upgrade for more details]
    34. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (14.06) - [Upgrade for more details]
    35. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (14.08) - [Upgrade for more details]
    36. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (14.19) - [Upgrade for more details]
    37. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (14.2) - [Upgrade for more details]
    38. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (14.26) - [Upgrade for more details]
    39. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (14.29) - [Upgrade for more details]
    40. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (14.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 05-18-2019 at 08:08 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    This is pretty much what I expected, only I don't understand the Ostrogoth result. Does anybody know what sample that corresponds to so I can read more about the remains of that person?

    Ancient:
    Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.331)
    Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (10.01)
    Hellenic Roman (10.66)
    Roman (11.64)
    Ancient Greek (15.97)

    Modern:
    1. Greek_Islands (5.867)
    2. Central_Greek (6.780)
    3. East_Sicilian (6.878)
    4. Italian_Abruzzo (7.255)

    Old matches:
    1. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (10.66) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (12.2) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (15.12) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (15.48) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (16.23) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (16.83) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (20.02) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (20.11) - [Upgrade for more details]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetshop View Post
    2019-05-19.png

    This is pretty much what I expected, only I don't understand the Ostrogoth result. Does anybody know what sample that corresponds to so I can read more about the remains of that person?

    Ancient:
    Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.331)
    Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (10.01)
    Hellenic Roman (10.66)
    Roman (11.64)
    Ancient Greek (15.97)

    Modern:
    1. Greek_Islands (5.867)
    2. Central_Greek (6.780)
    3. East_Sicilian (6.878)
    4. Italian_Abruzzo (7.255)

    Old matches:
    1. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (10.66) - [Upgrade for more details]
    3. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (12.2) - [Upgrade for more details]
    5. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
    7. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (15.12) - [Upgrade for more details]
    9. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (15.48) - [Upgrade for more details]
    11. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (16.23) - [Upgrade for more details]
    13. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.32) - [Upgrade for more details]
    15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (16.83) - [Upgrade for more details]
    17. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (20.02) - [Upgrade for more details]
    19. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (20.11) - [Upgrade for more details]
    Ostrogoth is Germanic with a strong Hunnic component mixed group (eastgermanics, Alan, Hunnic ..)
    Alain Dad
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    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

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    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    This is pretty much what I expected, only I don't understand the Ostrogoth result. Does anybody know what sample that corresponds to so I can read more about the remains of that person?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jetshop View Post
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    This is pretty much what I expected, only I don't understand the Ostrogoth result. Does anybody know what sample that corresponds to so I can read more about the remains of that person?
    also:
    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/...on-period.html
    Last edited by Dewsloth; 05-19-2019 at 03:04 PM.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    [QUOTE=Armor;569480]
    Quote Originally Posted by jetshop View Post
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    This is pretty much what I expected, only I don't understand the Ostrogoth result. Does anybody know what sample that corresponds to so I can read more about the remains of that person?

    I mean Crimea was an intersection of various groups through their migrations and settlements. We have Scythians, Greeks, Goths, Herules, Turkic groups, internal migrations in the Roman era, Byzantine eras, etc.

    Not a real surprise that the Ostrogoth was relatively mixed as well as the Gepid individual, Gepids were clearly influenced by steppe people in the time of the Huns so that should come as no surprise that it is reflected genetically.

    EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if the Ostrogoth was actually descended from a different population that adopted Gothic culture.
    Last edited by spruithean; 05-19-2019 at 04:09 PM.

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    Hallstatt Bylany, Scythian Moldovia and Cimmerian Moldovia, for example, also have a steppe component but are more south-east European. Hallstatt Bylany is a contact zone between Celts and Scythian. Scythian Hungary sees Slavic Maygar and Scythian Ukraine very northern European
    Alain Dad
    Y-DNA R1a-Y33 Eastern Corderd Ware Culture Baltoslavic/ old Pruzzen
    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

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    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    [QUOTE=spruithean;569504]
    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post

    I mean Crimea was an intersection of various groups through their migrations and settlements. We have Scythians, Greeks, Goths, Herules, Turkic groups, internal migrations in the Roman era, Byzantine eras, etc.

    Not a real surprise that the Ostrogoth was relatively mixed as well as the Gepid individual, Gepids were clearly influenced by steppe people in the time of the Huns so that should come as no surprise that it is reflected genetically.

    EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if the Ostrogoth was actually descended from a different population that adopted Gothic culture.

    Nach ersten Auseinandersetzungen mit dem Römischen Reich in Südosteuropa um die Mitte des 3. Jahrhunderts kam es am Ende des 3. Jahrhunderts zur Spaltung in eine östliche (Greutungen) und eine westliche Gruppe (Terwingen), aus denen sich später – vereinfachend gesagt – die Ostgoten (Ostrogothi = glanzvolle Goten) und die Westgoten (Visigothi = edle, gute Goten) entwickelten.

    trotzdem würde ich die Krimgoten zu den Germannen rechnen (Ostgermannen ) die eine Starke Steppenkomponete hatten , das Krimgotische würde noch bis ins 18 jahundert gesprochen Sie sind in den Krimtataren aufgegangen. Da gebe ich ihnen recht es kamen viele auf die Krim
    After first disputes with the Roman Empire in southeastern Europe around the middle of the 3rd century, it split at the end of the 3rd century in an eastern (Greutungen) and a western group (Terwingen), from which later - to put it simply - the Ostrogoths (Ostrogothi = glorious Goths) and the Visigoths (Visigothi = noble, good Goths) developed.

    Nevertheless, I would count the Crimean Goths among the Germanic people (Eastgermanics) who had a strong steppe component, the Crimean gothic would still be spoken until the 18th century. They were absorbed in the Crimean Tatars. I agree with you that many came to the Crimea
    Alain Dad
    Y-DNA R1a-Y33 Eastern Corderd Ware Culture Baltoslavic/ old Pruzzen
    H76 czech Republic/England (Celtic tribes ?) W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

    Eurogenes Global 25 Calculator/Modern

    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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