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    After first disputes with the Roman Empire in southeastern Europe around the middle of the 3rd century, it split at the end of the 3rd century in an eastern (Greutungen) and a western group (Terwingen), from which later - to put it simply - the Ostrogoths (Ostrogothi = glorious Goths) and the Visigoths (Visigothi = noble, good Goths) developed.

    Nevertheless, I would count the Crimean Goths among the Germanic people (Eastgermanics) who had a strong steppe component, the Crimean gothic would still be spoken until the 18th century. They were absorbed in the Crimean Tatars. I agree with you that many came to the Crimea

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    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post


    Nach ersten Auseinandersetzungen mit dem Römischen Reich in Südosteuropa um die Mitte des 3. Jahrhunderts kam es am Ende des 3. Jahrhunderts zur Spaltung in eine östliche (Greutungen) und eine westliche Gruppe (Terwingen), aus denen sich später – vereinfachend gesagt – die Ostgoten (Ostrogothi = glanzvolle Goten) und die Westgoten (Visigothi = edle, gute Goten) entwickelten.

    trotzdem würde ich die Krimgoten zu den Germannen rechnen (Ostgermannen ) die eine Starke Steppenkomponete hatten , das Krimgotische würde noch bis ins 18 jahundert gesprochen Sie sind in den Krimtataren aufgegangen. Da gebe ich ihnen recht es kamen viele auf die Krim
    After first disputes with the Roman Empire in southeastern Europe around the middle of the 3rd century, it split at the end of the 3rd century in an eastern (Greutungen) and a western group (Terwingen), from which later - to put it simply - the Ostrogoths (Ostrogothi = glorious Goths) and the Visigoths (Visigothi = noble, good Goths) developed.

    Nevertheless, I would count the Crimean Goths among the Germanic people (Eastgermanics) who had a strong steppe component, the Crimean gothic would still be spoken until the 18th century. They were absorbed in the Crimean Tatars. I agree with you that many came to the Crimea
    It was my understanding that Ostrogoth meant "East Goth" and Visigoth meant "West Goth".

    Yes, they were East Germanic, with a strong Steppe admixture, we know in the Byzantine era that the Principality of Theodoro (aka Gothia, otherwise Crimea) was populated by a mix of Greeks, Crimean Goths, Bulgars, Alans, Kipchaks and many others and the official language was Greek and majority of the populace were Orthodox Christian. It is my understanding that many Crimean Goths were Greek speakers. I don't see it as being too farfetched for non-Germanic derived people to adopt aspects of the Crimean Goth culture or be absorbed by the culture.

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    Updated: Mine now shows Western Goth(Visigoth) results

    Longobard + Frank (6.023)
    Visigoth + Frank (6.262)
    Frank (7.253)
    Visigoth (8.597)
    Longobard (9.965)


    1. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.253) - SZ38
    2. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (7.472) - I1767
    3. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (7.967) - SZ23
    4. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (8.597) - I12162
    5. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.06) - I12032
    6. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (9.383) - I2981
    7. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (9.584) - I5383
    8. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (9.748) - I5471
    9. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (9.88) - 3DRIF-16
    10. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.965) - SZ15
    11. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (10.06) - 6DRIF-21
    12. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (10.23) - I2568
    13. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (10.48) - I2452
    14. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (10.52) - Unknown
    15. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (10.54) - Hinxton 4
    16. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (10.59) - CL92
    17. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (10.62) - Rise577
    18. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (10.87) - VDP-A6
    19. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.0) - SZ8
    20. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (11.0) - SZ42
    21. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.1) - SZ14
    22. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (11.11) - Hinxton HS3
    23. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.14) - SZ12
    24. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (11.18) - I12163
    25. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (11.18) - ALH_1
    26. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.26) - 6DRIF-3
    27. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (11.29) - Shohola
    28. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.45) - 6DRIF-18
    29. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.49) - 6DRIF-22
    30. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (11.51) - I3255
    31. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (11.53) - I3875
    32. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (11.58) - BIM_33
    33. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (11.67) - CL63
    34. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.75) - 6DRIF-23
    35. Alemannic Bavaria (425 AD) (11.76) - STR_316
    36. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (11.87) - CL47
    37. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (12.19) - I2566
    38. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2250 BC) (12.27) - I2418
    39. Pict (670 AD) (12.34) - CL83
    40. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (12.35) - I5512
    41. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (12.46) - I5367
    42. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (12.52) - Sigtuna stg021
    43. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (12.53) - SZ11
    44. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (12.54) - Hinxton 1
    45. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (12.62) - I5382
    46. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (12.62) - ALH_10
    47. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (12.66) - SZ16
    48. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (12.75) - I2447
    49. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (12.82) - CL102
    50. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (12.83) - NW_255
    51. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (13.13) - I0112
    52. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (13.2) - AED_249
    53. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (13.23) - I6679
    54. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.3) - SZ22
    55. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (13.33) - CL145
    56. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.33) - SZ9
    57. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (13.43) - CL53
    58. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (13.46) - I4251
    59. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (13.46) - SZ24
    60. Bronze Age Netherlands (1775 BC) (13.48) - I4070



    Also what do the purple like dots for Frankish, Saxon results mean, and all the arrows connected too them? I'm guessing these results are showing similar genetic results to my background(Ancestors etc)?
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    Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) 100
    Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) 94
    Celtic Briton (0 AD) 88
    Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) 85
    Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) 75
    Nordic Lombard (670 AD) CL92 74
    Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) 65
    Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) 51
    Anglo Saxon (700 AD) 48
    Nordic Lombard (590 AD) SZ4 45
    Pict (670 AD) (6.756) 43
    Nordic Lombard (590 AD) SZ15 41
    Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) ALH_10 41
    Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) 37
    Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) 28
    Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) AED_249 24
    Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC)19
    Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) 6DRIF-3 18
    Bronze Age Hebrides Islands (1350 BC) 14
    Bronze Age Jutland Denmark (1400 BC) 12
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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    It was my understanding that Ostrogoth meant "East Goth" and Visigoth meant "West Goth".

    Yes, they were East Germanic, with a strong Steppe admixture, we know in the Byzantine era that the Principality of Theodoro (aka Gothia, otherwise Crimea) was populated by a mix of Greeks, Crimean Goths, Bulgars, Alans, Kipchaks and many others and the official language was Greek and majority of the populace were Orthodox Christian. It is my understanding that many Crimean Goths were Greek speakers. I don't see it as being too farfetched for non-Germanic derived people to adopt aspects of the Crimean Goth culture or be absorbed by the culture.
    Over the centuries, numerous loan words have found their way into the Crimean Gothic, especially from the Greek, the Iranian languages and the Slavic. Thus, the Krimgoten took over for the number one hundred the Iranian word sade (see but gothic dog). yes, agree with them to the Crimea had many peoples eyes Alans, Sycthian, Khazars, Byzantines, Venezian, Genoese ...
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    My:
    Polish: 27.8%
    German: 21.9%
    Greek_Central_Macedonia: 20.0%
    Italian_Bergamo: 17.4%
    Russian_Voronez: 10.4%
    Mari: 2%
    Moldovan: 0.2%
    Italian_Northeast: 0.2%
    Other: 0.1%

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    The most recent results of my mom and dad. My mom didn't have any deep dive matches, but my father's kit shows some.

    Mom:
    Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...

    1. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (7.672) - SZ45
    2. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (8.071) - SZ18
    3. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (9.703) - DA199
    4. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (10.2) - CL47
    5. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (10.37) - I12031
    6. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (11.08) - CL102
    7. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (11.34) - I4332
    8. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (11.34) - I5769
    9. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (11.56) - CL53
    10. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (11.84) - SZ5
    11. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (11.92) - CL94
    12. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (12.25) - I2649
    13. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (12.42) - CL63
    14. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (12.43) - I12163
    15. Central Roman (670 AD) (12.55) - CL36
    16. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (12.83) - CL57
    17. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (12.9) - I3313
    18. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1100 AD) (13.3) - I2515
    19. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1120 AD) (13.35) - I2514
    20. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (13.81) - I2647
    21. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (13.82) - SZ28
    22. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.9) - SZ36
    23. Central Roman (590 AD) (14.55) - SZ43
    24. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (14.58) - I12032
    25. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (14.65) - scy192
    26. Central Roman (590 AD) (14.69) - SZ32
    27. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (14.93) - I7425
    28. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (16.04) - CL23
    29. Roman Iberia Granada (350 AD) (16.11) - I3983
    30. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (500 AD) (16.25) - I3981
    31. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (16.37) - FN_2
    32. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (16.38) - scy301
    33. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) (16.7) - I3576
    34. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (16.9) - SZ23
    35. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (17.13) - I12162
    36. Early Medieval Iberia Granada (760 AD) (17.2) - I3585
    37. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (17.39) - I3582
    38. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (17.65) - BIM_33
    39. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (17.68) - SZ38
    40. Late Roman Iberia Granada (650 AD) (18.2) - I3575
    41. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (18.33) - Vim2
    42. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (18.51) - SZ42
    43. Morisco Andalusia Iberia (1550 AD) (18.57) - I7424
    44. Medieval Iberian Valencia (1200 AD) (18.82) - I2644
    45. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (19.09) - I5471
    46. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (19.57) - I4251
    47. Halstatt (775 BC) (19.65) - DA112
    48. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) (19.72) - I3581
    49. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (19.82) - CL121
    50. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (19.93) - SZ24
    51. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (20.08) - SZ40
    52. Roman Iberia Granada (300 AD) (20.28) - I3982
    53. Gaulic Gladiator York (250 AD) (20.73) - 6DRIF-22
    54. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (20.76) - scy010
    55. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (20.9) - SZ14
    56. Visigoth Iberian Girona (550 AD) (20.91) - I12034
    57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (20.92) - SZ8
    58. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (21.18) - Rise577
    59. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (21.68) - 6DRIF-21
    60. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (21.73) - FN_2

    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. North_Italian (10.65)
    2. Spanish_Galicia (11.03)
    3. Serbian (11.48)
    4. French (11.58)
    5. Portuguese (11.91)
    6. Romanian (12.95)
    7. Spanish_Extremadura (13.45)
    8. Spanish_Cataluna (13.47)



    Dad:
    1. Bell Beaker Scotland (2100 BC) (5.018) - I2568
    2. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (5.081) - SZ15
    3. Nordic-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (5.468) - 6DRIF-18
    4. Bell Beaker Southern France (2050 BC) (5.848) - I3875
    5. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (6.803) - SZ23
    6. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (6.805) - I12162
    7. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (6.973) - CL92
    8. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (7.578) - I5471
    9. Celtic Briton (70 BC) (7.745) - Hinxton 1
    10. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) (8.191) - I2452
    11. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.282) - SZ12
    12. Pict (670 AD) (8.305) - CL83
    13. Colonial American Pennsylvania (1700 AD) (8.368) - Shohola
    14. Bronze Age Celt England (1000 BC) (8.521) - I5383
    15. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.579) - CL84
    16. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (8.6) - ALH_1
    17. Corded Ware Denmark (2450 BC) (8.61) - Rise61
    18. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (8.772) - SZ9
    19. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) (8.799) - I2981
    20. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (8.825) - CL146
    21. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (8.895) - I1767
    22. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) (8.962) - Unknown
    23. Nordic Lombard / Winnili (590 AD) (8.988) - SZ16
    24. Vandal Chieftain (375 AD) (9.135) - DA119
    25. Bell Beaker Cambridge (2075 BC) (9.172) - I3255
    26. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.266) - CL145
    27. Visigoth Germanic Girona (550 AD) (9.284) - I12032
    28. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (9.293) - SZ7
    29. Alemannic Bavaria (465 AD) (9.621) - NW_255
    30. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (9.748) - CL93
    31. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (9.785) - Hinxton HS1
    32. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.01) - SZ8
    33. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (10.02) - Sigtuna stg021
    34. Bronze Age Germany (1050 BC) (10.18) - I0099
    35. Celtic/Viking Iceland (1000 AD) (10.21) - VDP-A6
    36. Celtic / Hungary (590 AD) (10.33) - SZ11
    37. Ireland Copper Age (1880 BC) (10.35) - Rathlin2
    38. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (10.39) - I2447
    39. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (10.48) - SZ14
    40. Celtic Briton (0 AD) (10.5) - Hinxton 4
    41. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (10.6) - Hinxton HS3
    42. Czech Velke Prilepy (0 AD) (10.61) - Rise577
    43. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (10.99) - BIM_33
    44. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (11.05) - SZ38
    45. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.1) - 6DRIF-21
    46. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (11.13) - I0112
    47. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) (11.13) - I5367
    48. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (11.22) - 6DRIF-3
    49. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (11.33) - I4251
    50. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (11.52) - AED_249
    51. Anglo Saxon (700 AD) (11.64) - Hinxton3 HS2
    52. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (11.84) - SZ4
    53. Scythian Moldova (290 BC) (12.04) - scy303
    54. Germano-Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (12.15) - 3DRIF-16
    55. Bell Beaker England (2150 BC) (12.16) - I5382
    56. Unetice Bohemia (1800 BC) (12.24) - Rise150
    57. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (12.24) - SZ13
    58. Nordic Lombard (670 AD) (12.33) - CL151
    59. Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) (12.49) - 6DRIF-23
    60. Nordic Lombard (590 AD) (12.49) - SZ24

    Your closest genetic modern populations...

    1. Welsh (5.013)
    2. Southwest_English (5.306)
    3. Orcadian (5.621)
    4. North_Dutch (6.560)
    5. Southeast_English (6.610)
    6. West_Scottish (7.382)
    7. Danish (7.555)
    8. Irish (7.710)


    Late Medieval Gotlander
    1600 AD
    Unknown
    Total cM=61.79
    Largest segment=13.73 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 89)

    Chr. 2

    13.32 cM

    Chr. 5

    2.55 cM

    Chr. 6

    2.82 cM

    Chr. 8

    9.46 cM

    Chr. 17

    12.99 cM

    Chr. 20

    6.88 cM

    Chr. 22

    13.73 cM


    Celtic/Viking Iceland
    1000 AD
    VDP-A6
    Total cM=49.76
    Largest segment=11.94 cM (10 shared. Sample quality: 89)

    Chr. 1

    3.1 cM

    Chr. 4

    2.95 cM

    Chr. 6

    2.74 cM

    Chr. 14

    2.52 cM

    Chr. 15

    4.82 cM

    Chr. 16

    3.09 cM

    Chr. 17

    11.94 cM

    Chr. 18

    5.61 cM

    Chr. 21

    4.1 cM

    Chr. 22

    8.85 cM


    Alemannic Bavaria
    450 AD
    BIM_33
    Total cM=7.71
    Largest segment=3.13 cM (6 shared. Sample quality: 9)

    Chr. 5

    0.83 cM

    Chr. 6

    1.48 cM

    Chr. 9

    0.61 cM

    Chr. 12

    3.13 cM

    Chr. 15

    0.77 cM

    Chr. 16

    0.88 cM


    Bronze Age Germany
    1050 BC
    I0099
    Total cM=3.56
    Largest segment=2.05 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 43)

    Chr. 1

    1.51 cM

    Chr. 15

    2.05 cM

    Celtic Gladiator York
    250 AD
    6DRIF-21
    Total cM=0.84
    Largest segment=0.84 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25)

    Chr. 11

    0.84 cM


    Bell Beaker Scotland
    2100 BC
    I2568
    Total cM=0.8
    Largest segment=0.8 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 26)

    Chr. 1

    0.8 cM
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