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    Small German Cluster Under C-M217 (C-BY56585)

    In researching my father's maternal grandfather it appears that there is a small cluster of C's related to this line under C-M217. More specifically, under C-BY56585 (this appeared to be FTDNA SNP - I can't find an equivalent on Y-Full tree).

    This line came from Rheinland-Pfalz and immigrated to eastern Pennsylvania (PA German AKA 'Dutch') in the early 1700s.

    Maybe connected to the Huns? Thoughts?

    thanks!
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    Maternal G-Grandfather - Briano, Caserta, Italy - Possible R1b - L51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward J View Post
    In researching my father's maternal grandfather it appears that there is a small cluster of C's related to this line under C-M217. More specifically, under C-BY56585 (this appeared to be FTDNA SNP - I can't find an equivalent on Y-Full tree).

    This line came from Rheinland-Pfalz and immigrated to eastern Pennsylvania (PA German AKA 'Dutch') in the early 1700s.

    Maybe connected to the Huns? Thoughts?

    thanks!
    InFTDNA tree
    C>M217>F1906>F6301>F9992>Z22425>BY99627>BY56585

    In ISOGG ,Z22425 was C2b1a4a, it is now C2a1a1d1

    In Yfull, the nearest is https://yfull.com/tree/C-Y11990/ Y11990 is in the same node as F9992

    It could be Huns or Avars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palamede View Post
    InFTDNA tree
    C>M217>F1906>F6301>F9992>Z22425>BY99627>BY56585

    In ISOGG ,Z22425 was C2b1a4a, it is now C2a1a1d1

    In Yfull, the nearest is https://yfull.com/tree/C-Y11990/ Y11990 is in the same node as F9992

    It could be Huns or Avars.
    Thanks!

    Anyone know what ancient sample is shown under C-ZQ354 in Yfull?
    Paternal Line: Rhineland Germany (J2-Z387) - Confirmed
    Maternal Grandfather - (Škofja Loka, Slovenia) - R1a1 - Y2613 - Confirmed
    Paternal G-Grandfather - Germany - R1b - U106 - Confirmed
    Maternal G-Grandfather - Briano, Caserta, Italy - Possible R1b - L51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward J View Post
    Thanks!

    Anyone know what ancient sample is shown under C-ZQ354 in Yfull?
    Apparently, the sample is labeled as DA23 at https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/10/

    DA23, Kipchak, 1045-1095 AD Source: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map...2.5183/62.5726
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe12 View Post
    Apparently, the sample is labeled as DA23 at https://www.yfull.com/samples-from-paper/10/

    DA23, Kipchak, 1045-1095 AD Source: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map...2.5183/62.5726
    Thank you!

    I didn't know that Yfull had that resource.
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    Maternal Grandfather - (Škofja Loka, Slovenia) - R1a1 - Y2613 - Confirmed
    Paternal G-Grandfather - Germany - R1b - U106 - Confirmed
    Maternal G-Grandfather - Briano, Caserta, Italy - Possible R1b - L51

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    Kipchak would explain things. The Kipchaks were joined with the Cumans in the Cuman-Kipchak confederacy and were pushed west by the mongols.

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