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    Faire du vieux avec du neuf...

    Je me suis payé le luxe d'une petite fantaisie. D'abord un "calculateur" G25+nMonte, très modeste. Les composantes sont les suivantes: Anatolia_N , Levant_N, IberoMaurussian, Mota, Botai, ANE et WHG. Mon but était double.
    Un: utiliser une composante sibérienne moderne qui (dans mon espoir) puisse porter le breakdown entre les populations européennes non-ouralophones et les Finlandais, Saamis, Maris, Mordves. J'ai choisi Botai, qui marche mal, mais les autres sont pires. Il overlappe fatalement avec ANE, mon seul espoir est que le total Botai+ANE couplé avec la balance Botai/ANE reflète un peu la réalité. Cela marche comme cela peut: cela déconne totalement avec les Saamis (qui se retrouvent avec de l'IberoMaurussian, problème récurrent qui ne se résout que si j'inclus les BOO, mais alors d'autres problèmes surgissent, qui sont pires. J'ai donc exclu les Saamis et les Maris, la mort dans l'âme). D'un autre côté, certaines populations du Sud se retrouvent avec du Botai... Qui a dit qu'il était facile de travailler avec nMonte?
    Deux: pouvoir inclure les populations MENA (j'ai pensé à Rinema). Pour moi c'était une première.

    Contrainte absolue: réduire l'overlapping au maximum, sachant que ce maximum ne peut être total. Comme je suis têtu (Si Finn me lit, il dira "normal, avec 3/16 frisons!"), mais pas bête, j'ai travaillé avec G25 scaled (et oui...), pen=0.

    A quoi bon un tel calculateur? Pourquoi un de plus? Voilà:

    Ensuite , l'utiliser pour constituer une feuille de références utilisable avec le vieux classique 4Mix. Evidemment avec cela je n'invente pas la poudre! Il s'agit bien d'une petite fantaisie, seulement pour savoir si la démarche donne des sorties raisonnables. J'ai testé la chose avec mes parents, et les résultats sont très proches des vieux Eurogenes, élaborés sur des méthodologies très différentes. Ma mère à titre d'illustration.

    La première étape (le nMonte). Résultat:

    ,Anatolia_N,Levant_N,IberoMaurusian,Mota,Botai,CHG ,ANE,WHG
    angle_mom,45.8,0,0,0,3.4,9.2,6,35.6

    Deuxième étape (le 4Mix):

    4 Ancestors Oracle
    Version 0.97 by Alexandr Burnashev

    Data file is CUsers\Pat\Desktop\Atelier\G25etc\exp4wayOracle.txt
    8 components mode.
    Population data has been read. 68 populations found.
    Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
    Person: Test1
    Threshold of components set to 0,57%

     

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English @ 2,925747
    2 Scottish @ 3,644173
    3 German @ 3,85746
    4 Orcadian @ 4,261455
    5 English_Cornwall @ 4,317406
    6 Shetlandic @ 4,516635
    7 Irish @ 4,75815


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 French+Icelandic @ 2,814249
    2 English+English @ 2,925747
    3 Belgian+Icelandic @ 2,976575

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Welsh +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Swedish @ 0,940744
    2 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Basque_French @ 1,022252
    3 50% Shetlandic +25% Icelandic +25% Basque_French @ 1,0583

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Icelandic+Norwegian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Welsh @ 0,848528
    2 Irish+Norwegian+Welsh+Basque_French @ 0,902773
    3 Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Swedish+Welsh+Welsh @ 0,940744
    4 Icelandic+Norwegian+Welsh+Basque_French @ 0,982344
    5 Norwegian+Orcadian+Welsh+Basque_French @ 1



    Gaussian method.


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Icelandic+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2,089057
    2 French+Icelandic @ 2,158206


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Welsh +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Swedish @ 0,481471
    2 50% Welsh +25% Swedish +25% Basque_French @ 0,533228


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Orcadian+Swedish+Welsh+Basque_French @ 0,464084
    2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Swedish+Welsh+Welsh @ 0,481471



    Pas si mal, non? Aimeriez-vous tester ce petit truc sur vos propres données? Si oui je posterai les fichiers nécessaires. Il faut évidemment que vous ayiez vos composantes G25.
    Last edited by anglesqueville; 04-20-2019 at 10:03 AM.
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    En North fum naiz, en North manom

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    J'adore tes expérimentations

    Je suis curieux de voir ce que cela donnera sur l'échantillon NW européen de l'ami Fabrice. J'aimerais bien aussi que certains français du sud (Aquitains, Provençaux,Auvergnats, Gascons...) sortent du bois.
    On verra ainsi se confirmer la Loire comme frontière génétique...toute relative, bien sûr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camulogène Rix View Post
    J'adore tes expérimentations

    Je suis curieux de voir ce que cela donnera sur l'échantillon NW européen de l'ami Fabrice. J'aimerais bien aussi que certains français du sud (Aquitains, Provençaux,Auvergnats, Gascons...) sortent du bois.
    On verra ainsi se confirmer la Loire comme frontière génétique...toute relative, bien sûr.
    Merci camarade. Oui, je suis intéressé aussi par le Sud, en particulier par les amis qui ont du MENA dans leur généalogie. Cela dit j'ai été un peu flemmard quand j'ai assemblé la feuille d'oracles, et il manque un tas de références levantines ou maghrébines, que je rajouterai si cela en vaut la peine (j'ai, de mémoire, seulement inclus, le Maroc, la Tunisie, l'Algérie, l'Egypte). Sans rapport, j'ai 5 minutes, je vais faire touner pour toi.
    En North alom, de North venom
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    Oui, ça m'intéresse bien sûr.
    un petite explication d'utilisation sera peut-être nécessaire pour 4mix

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    nMonte:
    54,4 Anatolia_N
    0,8 Levant_N
    0 IberoMaurusian
    0 Mota
    0,2 Botai
    13,8 CHG
    8,6 ANE
    22,2 WHG

    "Oracle":

     

    4 Ancestors Oracle
    Version 0.97 by Alexandr Burnashev

    Data file is CUsers\Pat\Desktop\Atelier\G25etc\exp4wayOracle.txt
    8 components mode.
    Population data has been read. 68 populations found.
    Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
    Person: Test1
    Threshold of components set to 0,57%


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Andaloucia @ 7,5805
    2 Spanish_Extramadura @ 8,264287
    3 Spanish_Valencia @ 8,794839
    4 Italian_Bergamo @ 9,013689
    5 Montenegrin @ 9,039903
    6 French @ 9,187563
    7 Spanish_Galicia @ 9,841172
    8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 10,255482
    9 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10,42474
    10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 10,986146
    11 Belgian @ 10,997245
    12 Greek @ 11,173405
    13 Romanian @ 11,352621
    14 Italian_Tuscan @ 11,453407
    15 Spanish_Murcia @ 11,893142
    16 Spanish_Aragon @ 12,34453
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12,41709
    18 Slovenian @ 13,912993
    19 Austrian @ 14,646496
    20 Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 14,707851
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 English_Cornwall+Italian_Tuscan @ 3,180718
    2 Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 3,634081
    3 English_Cornwall+Greek @ 3,653655
    4 German+Italian_Tuscan @ 3,726982
    5 French+Greek @ 3,988502
    6 Italian_Tuscan+Slovenian @ 4,026905
    7 Belgian+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,064477
    8 Italian_Tuscan+Orcadian @ 4,155873
    9 French+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,163643
    10 Greek+Welsh @ 4,211742
    11 English+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,222918
    12 Belgian+Greek @ 4,239363
    13 German+Greek @ 4,247661
    14 Greek+Slovenian @ 4,455131
    15 Italian_Tuscan+Shetlandic @ 4,597618
    16 English+Greek @ 4,739754
    17 Greek+Orcadian @ 4,792025
    18 Irish+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,796844
    19 Italian_Tuscan+Scottish @ 4,832469
    20 Belgian+Italian_Bergamo @ 5,056975
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Welsh @ 2,268906
    2 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Welsh @ 2,287276
    3 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Welsh @ 2,303147
    4 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Welsh @ 2,327068
    5 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% French +25% Welsh @ 2,403381
    6 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Welsh @ 2,426816
    7 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Welsh @ 2,593801
    8 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Welsh @ 2,596733
    9 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Welsh @ 2,603729
    10 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Welsh @ 2,637368
    11 50% Greek +25% French +25% Welsh @ 2,707113
    12 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% English_Cornwall +25% French @ 2,733395
    13 50% Greek +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Welsh @ 2,73667
    14 50% Greek +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2,778154
    15 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Welsh @ 2,779786
    16 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Welsh @ 2,785578
    17 50% Greek +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,800082
    18 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Belgian +25% Welsh @ 2,807715
    19 50% Greek +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,823446
    20 50% Greek +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,831024
    128972 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Valencia+Welsh @ 2,268906
    2 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Andaloucia+Welsh @ 2,287276
    3 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 2,303147
    4 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Extramadura+Welsh @ 2,327068
    5 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Andaloucia+Welsh @ 2,399066
    6 French+Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 2,403381
    7 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Valencia+Welsh @ 2,408697
    8 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Extramadura+Welsh @ 2,41436
    9 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 2,426816
    10 French+Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 2,510448
    11 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 2,560922
    12 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 2,565808
    13 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Galicia+Welsh @ 2,593801
    14 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Extramadura+ Welsh @ 2,596733
    15 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Andaloucia+W elsh @ 2,603729
    16 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Valencia+Wel sh @ 2,637368
    17 Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Andaloucia +Welsh @ 2,654015
    18 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Galicia+Welsh @ 2,685459
    19 French+Greek+Greek+Welsh @ 2,707113
    20 English_Cornwall+French+Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tus can @ 2,733395
    21 Greek+Greek+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Welsh @ 2,73667
    22 English_Cornwall+French+Greek+Italian_Tuscan @ 2,769939
    23 English_Cornwall+Greek+Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 2,778154
    24 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Cataluna+Wel sh @ 2,779786
    25 Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+We lsh @ 2,785578
    26 English_Cornwall+Greek+Greek+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,800082
    27 Belgian+Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 2,807715
    28 Greek+Greek+Orcadian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,823446
    29 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Andaloucia+Welsh @ 2,826133
    30 English_Cornwall+Greek+Greek+Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,831024
    31 Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Valencia+W elsh @ 2,835506
    32 English_Cornwall+Greek+Greek+Spanish_Andaloucia @ 2,837576
    33 Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Extramadur a+Welsh @ 2,852615
    34 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Galicia+Wels h @ 2,862792
    35 English_Cornwall+Greek+Greek+Spanish_Cataluna @ 2,883513
    36 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Cantabria+We lsh @ 2,891757
    37 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 2,893559
    38 English_Cornwall+French+Greek+Greek @ 2,89373
    39 Greek+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+We lsh @ 2,895385
    40 Greek+Greek+Orcadian+Spanish_Andaloucia @ 2,902412
    549152 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Bergamo @ 4,048016
    2 Spanish_Andaloucia @ 5,889564
    3 French @ 6,192171
    4 English_Cornwall @ 6,551831
    5 Spanish_Extramadura @ 6,616664
    6 Spanish_Valencia @ 6,906308
    7 Belgian @ 6,947821
    8 Spanish_Cantabria @ 6,961529
    9 Italian_Tuscan @ 6,984538
    10 Welsh @ 6,984555
    11 German @ 7,170763
    12 Greek @ 7,240098
    13 Slovenian @ 7,281737
    14 Spanish_Cataluna @ 7,610361
    15 English @ 7,809634
    16 Orcadian @ 7,878197
    17 Spanish_Galicia @ 7,900034
    18 Montenegrin @ 8,214456
    19 Shetlandic @ 8,214541
    20 Irish @ 8,216578
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 3,222077
    2 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo @ 3,298766
    3 Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 3,743176
    4 English_Cornwall+Italian_Tuscan @ 3,806029
    5 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,048016
    6 Greek+Welsh @ 4,157498
    7 English_Cornwall+Greek @ 4,172795
    8 German+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,212379
    9 Italian_Bergamo+Orcadian @ 4,496316
    10 French+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,548842
    11 German+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,580335
    12 Italian_Bergamo+Slovenian @ 4,601412
    13 English+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,710324
    14 Italian_Tuscan+Orcadian @ 4,716667
    15 Irish+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,815172
    16 German+Greek @ 4,832597
    17 Czech+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,879565
    18 English+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,924222
    19 French+Italian_Tuscan @ 4,932556
    20 Belgian+Italian_Bergamo @ 4,953339
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Welsh @ 2,490882
    2 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Tuscan +25% Welsh @ 2,760854
    3 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2,772924
    4 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Greek +25% Welsh @ 2,98027
    5 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Tuscan @ 3,008771
    6 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% English_Cornwall +25% Greek @ 3,187015
    7 50% Welsh +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Tuscan @ 3,194229
    8 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Welsh +25% Welsh @ 3,222077
    9 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% English_Cornwall +25% Welsh @ 3,241293
    10 50% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Tuscan @ 3,263384
    11 50% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 3,298766
    12 50% Welsh +25% Greek +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 3,452806
    13 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% German +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 3,480327
    14 50% English_Cornwall +25% Greek +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 3,484395
    15 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Orcadian @ 3,550331
    16 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% German +25% Italian_Tuscan @ 3,627251
    17 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Tuscan +25% Orcadian @ 3,633984
    18 50% Italian_Tuscan +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Welsh @ 3,645391
    19 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Welsh @ 3,668411
    20 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Italian_Tuscan +25% Lithuanian @ 3,694547
    156222 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+We lsh @ 2,490882
    2 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Wel sh @ 2,760854
    3 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+I talian_Bergamo @ 2,772924
    4 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 2,98027
    5 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+I talian_Tuscan @ 3,008771
    6 English_Cornwall+Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Ber gamo @ 3,187015
    7 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh+Welsh @ 3,194229
    8 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+We lsh @ 3,207609
    9 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Welsh @ 3,222077
    10 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+W elsh @ 3,241293
    11 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+ Italian_Tuscan @ 3,263384
    12 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+ Italian_Bergamo @ 3,298766
    13 English_Cornwall+Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 3,449055
    14 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Welsh @ 3,452806
    15 German+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Ber gamo @ 3,480327
    16 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Greek+Italian_Be rgamo @ 3,484395
    17 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Spanish_Cantabria+W elsh @ 3,543202
    18 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Or cadian @ 3,550331
    19 German+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tus can @ 3,627251
    20 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Orc adian @ 3,633984
    21 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Wels h @ 3,645391
    22 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Cantabria+ Welsh @ 3,668411
    23 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 3,671286
    24 German+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 3,683348
    25 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Lit huanian @ 3,694547
    26 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Li thuanian @ 3,70731
    27 French+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 3,709979
    28 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Sp anish_Cantabria @ 3,715759
    29 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh+Basque_French @ 3,733875
    30 German+Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo @ 3,73746
    31 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Orcadian @ 3,742212
    32 Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh+Welsh @ 3,743176
    33 German+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 3,754248
    34 English_Cornwall+German+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tu scan @ 3,754971
    35 English_Cornwall+Italian_Tuscan+Italian_Tuscan+Wel sh @ 3,756556
    36 Czech+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Berg amo @ 3,779923
    37 Irish+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Berg amo @ 3,793876
    38 French+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 3,797133
    39 English+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Be rgamo @ 3,799242
    40 Greek+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Tuscan+Welsh @ 3,804945
    942939 iterations.



    Les premiers oracles avec LeastSquares sont franchement à l'Ouest (c'est le cas de le dire). J'imagine que tu seras content de trouver du Bergame, mais je pense que c'est très surestimé, non? Et les distances sont importantes.
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    fichier:
    PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12 ,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22 ,PC23,PC24,PC25
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    Anatolia_N:I1103,0.112684877290611,0.1695934129027 42,-0.00641105139583204,-0.100130479875011,0.0440082354792827,-0.0468536308091486,-0.00705031914171266,-0.00553823076442288,0.0392685767503738,0.075992458 1126312,0.0113671896262885,0.0134879946619207,-0.0221504424335046,-0.00550490690202841,-0.0366444811670189,-0.0115352945346012,0.0194272231675039,-0.00202701751349119,0.0104329382246805,-0.0080038390788421,-0.0163461545936651,0.00568802601963106,-0.0113387900589084,-0.00939891908678865,-0.00706523460332352
    Anatolia_N:I1579,0.12520541921179,0.18482635418143 2,0.00829665474754735,-0.102068489162915,0.0569337312144567,-0.0504792093836661,-0.00493522339919886,-0.00484595191887002,0.0368142907034755,0.089295694 1851062,0.0116919664727538,0.0131882614472113,-0.0312187443693689,0.00344056681376775,-0.0472306646152688,-0.00676206920993863,0.0178626145902553,0.003673969 24320278,0.0115642206827784,-0.0157575581864704,-0.0139753382785534,0.00581167875918826,-0.00320444066882194,-0.00421746369278978,-0.00155674660751196
    Anatolia_N:I1580,0.12520541921179,0.18279529534427 3,0.00301696536274449,-0.105298504642754,0.0532407324329784,-0.0468536308091486,-0.00282012765668507,-0.0110764615288458,0.0394731005876154,0.0781792914 396133,0.00730747904547115,0.0145370609134034,-0.0193258893715141,-0.00247720810591278,-0.0411232510874323,0,0.0357252291805105,-0.00164695172971159,0.0118156167845779,-0.00900431896369737,-0.00811068739380331,0.0040805404053875,0.002588202 07866387,-0.00120498962651137,-0.00490973930061465
    Anatolia_N:I1581,0.114961339458098,0.1797487070885 35,0,-0.111758535602432,0.0603189800974784,-0.0488058654261965,-0.00141006382834253,-0.00923038460737146,0.0433590534952044,0.085833208 084051,0.00552120638991154,0.0158858603795954,-0.0218531210585582,-0.00302769879611562,-0.043837657099804,-0.000132589592351738,0.0401582868160483,0.00354728 064860958,0.00879886356298358,-0.00375179956820724,-0.0104815037089151,0.00779012259210341,-0.0113387900589084,0.0036149688795341,-0.00359249217118145
    Anatolia_N:I1583,0.117237801625585,0.1827952953442 73,0.00301696536274449,-0.108205518574609,0.0523174827376089,-0.0510369907028226,-0.00587526595142722,-0.0117687403743986,0.0400866720993399,0.0854687358 628873,0.0128286854353827,0.00509546465005891,-0.0208124962462459,0.0027524534510142,-0.0335229142527913,-0.00424286695525561,0.0207310636485444,0.001013508 75674559,0.0138267855989742,-0.00300143965456579,-0.00923370564832993,0.00284401300981553,-0.00382067925898,-0.00819392946027729,-0.00311349321502392
    Anatolia_N:I1585,0.121790725960559,0.1807642365071 14,-0.00150848268137225,-0.100453481422995,0.0520097328391523,-0.0418335989367398,-0.00517023403725595,-0.00669202884034431,0.0353826238427847,0.075627985 8914675,0.00876897485456538,0.0170847932384328,-0.0212584783086655,0.00302769879611562,-0.042209013492381,-0.000132589592351738,0.0329871641703254,-0.00304052627023678,0.0135753894971747,-0.00600287930913158,-0.00623899030292563,0.00469880410317349,-0.00480666100323291,0.00240997925302273,-0.009100980166993
    CHG:KK1,0.0910584866994834,0.102568471276509,-0.0833436681458166,-0.00323001547983907,-0.0861699715678263,0.0206379088087917,0.0249111276 340514,-0.00184607692147429,-0.12823644595044,-0.0747168053385582,-0.006333148506075,0.0239786571767478,-0.0548557936776053,0.00440392552162273,0.026601178 9212433,-0.0327496293108792,0.0238602808030417,-0.0134289910268791,-0.0222485550092585,0.0347666759987204,0.0338153274 418569,-0.00704820615476023,0.00653212905567549,-0.0257867780073432,-0.00203574556366949
    Levant_N:I0867,0.0728467893595867,0.17264000115848 ,-0.030923894968131,-0.147934708976629,0.0344679886271305,-0.0686071022562533,-0.0164507446639962,-0.0119994999895829,0.0726059622207433,0.0488392776 359356,0.010555247510125,-0.0130383948398566,0.0294348161196906,-0.00825736035304261,-0.0248368150132017,0.00729242757934558,0.020991831 7447525,-0.00861482443233755,-0.00465082788329132,0.0237613972653125,-0.000374339418175538,0.00445149862405909,0.0001232 47718031613,-0.00530195435665001,-0.00682573512524475
    Levant_N:I1699,0.067155633940869,0.168577883484163 ,-0.0226272402205837,-0.150841722908484,0.0286207405564566,-0.0716748995116143,-0.0138656276453682,-0.0177684903691901,0.0777190581517815,0.0377228748 904428,0.006333148506075,-0.013338128054566,0.0325566905566275,-0.00027524534510142,-0.0149292330680447,0.00848573391051122,-0.000782304288624318,-0.00772800427018516,-0.0135753894971747,0.0123809385750839,-0.0101071642907395,0.0101395246436902,0.0029579452 3275871,0.00313297302892955,-0.00203574556366949
    Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
    Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF010,-0.193499,0.083273,-0.03017,-0.088502,0.034776,-0.055499,-0.076378,0.019384,0.163619,0.008565,0.02111,-0.030573,0.07879,-0.046104,0.077496,-0.046141,-0.00665,-0.069805,-0.144176,0.036518,-0.042924,-0.129217,0.07629,-0.015303,0.018322
    Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
    Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF013,-0.196914,0.082258,-0.026398,-0.088502,0.032314,-0.057173,-0.074733,0.017768,0.156665,0.002369,0.02111,-0.036717,0.077898,-0.052159,0.072746,-0.038584,0.000913,-0.069552,-0.141285,0.039894,-0.035687,-0.125384,0.075428,-0.011206,0.020477
    Morocco_Iberomaurusian:TAF014,-0.201467,0.079211,-0.018479,-0.083011,0.034468,-0.055499,-0.076848,0.014538,0.162596,0.002005,0.020461,-0.029374,0.078344,-0.054223,0.066503,-0.025192,0.017602,-0.063724,-0.151215,0.04127,-0.042176,-0.126126,0.077153,-0.014339,0.012693
    Ethiopia_4500BP:mota,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
    Botai:BOT14,0.102441,-0.091398,0.092772,0.170222,-0.085554,0.037929,-0.047942,-0.05469,-0.033542,-0.077086,0.034264,-0.004796,0.022894,-0.065784,0.021172,0.021214,-0.008605,-0.003927,0.000377,-0.005503,-0.042176,0.01929,0.023171,0.004097,-0.00934
    Botai:BOT15,0.103579,-0.064994,0.089755,0.18185,-0.079399,0.040718,-0.039012,-0.050536,-0.031701,-0.082553,0.021922,-0.010041,0.02215,-0.066472,0.024565,0.028374,-0.014212,0.003041,-0.000251,-0.003502,-0.027951,0.021392,0.021322,0.003374,-0.009939
    Botai:BOT2016,0.101303,-0.093429,0.088246,0.176359,-0.081554,0.039602,-0.043947,-0.046613,-0.022498,-0.084375,0.025657,-0.007343,0.027056,-0.076243,0.020087,0.012198,-0.011995,-0.002534,0.000377,5e-04,-0.03419,0.012613,0.026868,0.004699,-0.005508
    Chez moi ce fichier porte un nom qui vient de l'historique de l'expérience: "exp4way-scaled.csv".

    Donc getMonte('exp4way-scaled.csv','target_machinG25_scaled.csv',pen=0)

    Les résultats sont notés dans l'ordre:

    Anatolia_N
    Levant_N
    IberoMaurusian
    Mota
    Botai
    CHG
    ANE
    WHG

    Suite dans le prochain post.
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    Partie 4mix. Je pose comme postulat que les fichiers Admix4_097 et Anc_Oracle_097 sont dans le répertoire. Sinon, les télécharger sur https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o...RWTU1GdEE/view et les mettre où il faut.
    Sous Windows (on oublie R), double-clic sur Admix4_097. Le programme demande la feuille de références. La voilà (chez moi elle est baptisée exp4wayOracle.txt )

    8 {Quantity of components}
    Anatolia_N
    Levant_N
    IberoMaurusian
    Mota
    Botai
    CHG
    ANE
    WHG
    Austrian 46,8 0 0 0 5,2 13 3 32
    Belarusian 35,2 0 0 0 5,8 12,8 2 44,2
    Belgian 49,4 0 0 0 4 11,6 5 30
    Cypriot 32,8 34,2 0 0 0 26,4 6,6 0
    Czech 42,6 0 0 0 2,6 12,8 5,6 36,4
    Dutch 43,2 0 0 0 7,4 12 2,4 35
    English 44,4 0 0 0 2,6 11,6 6,2 35,2
    English_Cornwall 45,2 0 0 0 0,2 11,2 8 35,4
    Estonian 31,2 0 0 0 10,2 10,6 0,2 47,8
    Finnish 32,8 0 0 0 19 8 0 40,2
    Finnish_East 29,4 0 0 0 22,4 7,6 0 40,6
    French 52,2 0 0 0 2,4 11,2 4,8 29,4
    French_South 59,4 0 0 0 3,8 6 0 30,8
    German 45,2 0 0 0 1,6 12,4 6,2 34,6
    Greek 59 2,2 0 0 1,8 17,4 6,4 13,2
    Hungarian 45,6 0 0 0 8 12,6 1,6 32,2
    Irish 42,4 0 0 0 3 12,4 6,8 35,4
    Italian_Abruzzo 54,2 10,2 0 0 0,6 18,4 7,4 9,2
    Italian_Bergamo 62,4 0 0 0 0,2 11,8 6,4 19,2
    Italian_South 49,2 14,4 0 0 1,8 21 5,4 8,2
    Italian_Tuscan 60,6 2,2 0 0 1,2 16,4 6,2 13,4
    Latvian 28 0 0 0 1,4 13 5,8 51,8
    Lithuanian 32,4 0 0 0 0,6 12 4,2 50,8
    Algerian 41 6,2 29 12,2 0 7,2 1 3,4
    Icelandic 40 0 0 0 3,2 11,8 5,8 39,2
    Norwegian 41,2 0 0 0 9 10 3 36,8
    Orcadian 43 0 0 0 2,2 11,4 8 35,4
    Polish 38 0 0 0 4 13,4 3,2 41,4
    Romanian 53,4 0 0 0 8,4 15 1,2 22
    Sardinian 82,6 0 0,2 0 0 1 0 16,2
    Scottish 43,2 0 0 0 4 11,6 6,2 35
    Shetlandic 42,8 0 0 0 4,2 11,8 7,2 34
    Sicilian_East 49 16,4 0 0 0 18,6 7,2 8,8
    Sicilian_West 45,8 17 0,8 0,2 0 17,2 6,8 12,2
    Slovakian 41,6 0 0 0 4,6 12 4,8 37
    Slovenian 46,8 0 0 0 2,4 13,4 4,6 32,8
    Spanish_Andaloucia 59 0 2,8 0 0 9,8 5,2 23,2
    Spanish_Aragon 59,4 0 1,8 0 3,6 7,8 1 26,4
    Spanish_Cantabria 60,4 0 0,8 0 0,2 6,6 5,2 26,8
    Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 56,4 0 4,6 0 5 8 0,8 25,2
    Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 59,8 0 2,4 0 1,8 7,6 3,8 24,6
    Spanish_Cataluna 57,8 0 2,6 0 0,2 7,8 3,8 27,8
    Spanish_Extramadura 57,8 0 4,4 0 0 8,8 5,4 23,6
    Spanish_Galicia 57,4 0 5,2 0 0,4 7,8 4,4 24,8
    Spanish_Murcia 60,2 0 3,2 0 3,8 7 2,6 23,2
    Spanish_Pais_Vasco 59 0 0 0 2,4 5,2 2,4 31
    Spanish_Valencia 58,8 0 1,4 0 1,4 8 5,2 25,2
    Swedish 39,6 0 0 0 8,8 11,2 0,6 39,8
    Tunisian 25,8 25,6 22,8 11,8 0 8,8 1,6 3,6
    Ukrainian 37,8 0 0 0 6,8 13,8 1,8 39,8
    Welsh 43,4 0 0 0 0 10,8 9,8 36
    Morrocan 30 14,4 30 14,4 0 8 0,6 2,6
    Egyptian 0,6 62 3,8 12 0 16,8 4,8 0
    Kurdish 12,6 32,4 0 0 0 41,8 13,2 0
    Turkish_Istanbul 38,4 13,4 0 0 17,6 26,8 1 0,8
    Armenian 25,4 27,8 0 0 0 42,6 4,2 0
    Albanian 61,2 0 0 0 7 17 0,8 14
    Moldovan 46,6 0 0 0 10,2 15,6 0 27,6
    Basque_French 59 0 0 0 0,6 4,4 2,8 33,2
    Montenegrin 51,8 0 0 0 5,6 14,8 2,8 25
    Russian_Kostroma 32,2 0 0 0 19,8 11,6 0 36,4
    Russian_Kursk 34,6 0 0 0 11,8 13,8 0 39,8
    Russian_Orel 35,2 0 0 0 10,4 14,4 0 40
    Russian_Pinega 28,8 0 0 0 28,6 8 0 34,6
    Russian_Smolensk 34,6 0 0 0 6 15 0 44,4
    Russian_Tver 33 0 0 0 13,4 13,2 0 40,4
    Russian_Voronez 36,2 0 0 0 8 13,6 0,8 41,4
    Mordovian 31,6 0 0 0 23 13 0 32,4
    Choisir le seuil automatique, et choisir un nom pour le fichier de sortie, avec l'extension txt. Renseigner les valeurs des 8 composantes. Attention! Il faut les saisir avec la virgule comme séparateur décimal si vous êtes un Européen continental. Si cela déraille (Britanniques, Américains, sans doute d'autres), c'est qu'il faut le point, et alors il faut aussi remplacer les virgules pas des points sur la feuille de référence (c'est une option bien cachée dans Excel). Lancer le programme. Attention, c'est très, très rapide, pas question de lire à l'écran, donc se reporter au fichier de sortie qui normalement est maintenant dans le dossier.
    Last edited by anglesqueville; 04-20-2019 at 11:28 AM.
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    L'Oracle a parlé pour Helgi:
     

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English_Cornwall @ 5,130302
    2 German @ 5,535341
    3 Slovenian @ 5,66392
    4 Belgian @ 5,803447
    5 French @ 5,844655
    6 English @ 6,431174
    7 Welsh @ 7,326663
    8 Orcadian @ 7,472616
    9 Austrian @ 7,934733
    10 Scottish @ 7,984985
    11 Shetlandic @ 8,231646
    12 Irish @ 8,461678
    13 Czech @ 8,740709
    14 Slovakian @ 10,457533
    15 Hungarian @ 10,91421
    16 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10,936178
    17 Dutch @ 11,224972
    18 Basque_French @ 11,808471
    19 Icelandic @ 11,983321
    20 Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 12,043255
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 2,244994
    2 English_Cornwall+French @ 2,284731
    3 French+Welsh @ 2,437211
    4 Icelandic+Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,641968
    5 Orcadian+Spanish_Cataluna @ 2,860069
    6 Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Welsh @ 3,04959
    7 Icelandic+Spanish_Valencia @ 3,117691
    8 English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,136877
    9 Spanish_Valencia+Welsh @ 3,231098
    10 Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 3,237282
    11 Irish+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,268026
    12 Icelandic+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,310589
    13 Welsh+Basque_French @ 3,34365
    14 Czech+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,4
    15 Czech+Spanish_Cantabria @ 3,408812
    16 Orcadian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 3,4322
    17 Irish+Spanish_Cantabria @ 3,472751
    18 Icelandic+Spanish_Andaloucia @ 3,472751
    19 French+Orcadian @ 3,501428
    20 French+German @ 3,518522
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,674536
    2 50% English_Cornwall +25% German +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,984885
    3 50% Welsh +25% French +25% Basque_French @ 1,193733
    4 50% English_Cornwall +25% English +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,210371
    5 50% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Welsh @ 1,22882
    6 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 1,290348
    7 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1,298075
    8 50% Welsh +25% French +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,363818
    9 50% English_Cornwall +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,369306
    10 50% Welsh +25% French +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,382027
    11 50% English_Cornwall +25% Slovenian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,387443
    12 50% Welsh +25% Slovenian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,394632
    13 50% Welsh +25% French +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,4
    14 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,516575
    15 50% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Welsh @ 1,518222
    16 50% German +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Welsh @ 1,526433
    17 50% German +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,547578
    18 50% Welsh +25% Belgian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,552417
    19 50% English_Cornwall +25% Irish +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,644688
    20 50% English_Cornwall +25% Scottish +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,649242
    104001 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,674536
    2 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 0,913783
    3 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+German+Spanish_C antabria @ 0,984885
    4 French+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 1,193733
    5 English+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Spanish_ Cantabria @ 1,210371
    6 English_Cornwall+German+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,210371
    7 English_Cornwall+Slovenian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,222701
    8 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabri a+Welsh @ 1,22882
    9 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Spanish_Valencia @ 1,290348
    10 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1,298075
    11 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanish_Valencia+Welsh @ 1,330413
    12 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Latvian+Spanish_C antabria @ 1,343502
    13 French+Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh+Welsh @ 1,363818
    14 Italian_Bergamo+Latvian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,367479
    15 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Orcadian+Spanish _Cantabria @ 1,369306
    16 French+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh @ 1,382027
    17 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Slovenian+Spanis h_Cantabria @ 1,387443
    18 English_Cornwall+French+Welsh+Basque_French @ 1,391042
    19 Slovenian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh @ 1,394632
    20 French+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Welsh+Welsh @ 1,4
    21 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanis h_Cantabria @ 1,457737
    22 English+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,483239
    23 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,516575
    24 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Castilla _La_Mancha+Welsh @ 1,518222
    25 German+German+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,526433
    26 English_Cornwall+German+German+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,547578
    27 Belgian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh @ 1,552417
    28 English_Cornwall+French+Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 1,562049
    29 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Spanish_Cantab ria @ 1,571623
    30 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 1,609347
    31 Belgian+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,617096
    32 Belgian+English_Cornwall+Welsh+Basque_French @ 1,629417
    33 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Irish+Spanish_Ca ntabria @ 1,644688
    34 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Scottish+Spanish _Cantabria @ 1,649242
    35 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanish_Castilla_La_Man cha+Welsh @ 1,649242
    36 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+German+Spanish_V alencia @ 1,661324
    37 English_Cornwall+German+Orcadian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,664331
    38 English_Cornwall+French+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 1,665833
    39 Czech+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Ca ntabria @ 1,668831
    40 Belgian+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 1,674813
    315472 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English_Cornwall @ 3,172579
    2 Welsh @ 3,574049
    3 German @ 4,50234
    4 French @ 4,923575
    5 English @ 5,015153
    6 Orcadian @ 5,090636
    7 Slovenian @ 5,127855
    8 Belgian @ 5,452804
    9 Czech @ 5,500923
    10 Irish @ 5,540941
    11 Scottish @ 5,68656
    12 Shetlandic @ 5,808874
    13 Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,917642
    14 Icelandic @ 6,23983
    15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6,252016
    16 Slovakian @ 6,365346
    17 Spanish_Valencia @ 6,607628
    18 Spanish_Andaloucia @ 6,719075
    19 Austrian @ 6,751216
    20 Basque_French @ 6,863529
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,782885
    2 English_Cornwall+Basque_French @ 3,078391
    3 Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 3,126992
    4 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall @ 3,172579
    5 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian @ 3,290962
    6 English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabria @ 3,338616
    7 English_Cornwall+Welsh @ 3,348787
    8 Italian_Bergamo+Welsh @ 3,382473
    9 Welsh+Welsh @ 3,574049
    10 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo @ 3,643348
    11 Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Welsh @ 3,735081
    12 French+Welsh @ 3,800866
    13 English_Cornwall+French @ 3,831953
    14 Spanish_Cataluna+Welsh @ 3,883745
    15 English_Cornwall+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,951833
    16 English_Cornwall+German @ 3,959162
    17 Orcadian+Basque_French @ 3,994921
    18 Italian_Bergamo+Latvian @ 3,997449
    19 German+Basque_French @ 4,004369
    20 Spanish_Andaloucia+Welsh @ 4,075663
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Welsh +25% Sardinian +25% Welsh @ 2,321182
    2 50% Welsh +25% Lithuanian +25% Sardinian @ 2,340034
    3 50% Welsh +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Basque_French @ 2,45097
    4 50% English_Cornwall +25% Welsh +25% Basque_French @ 2,487499
    5 50% Welsh +25% English_Cornwall +25% Basque_French @ 2,501096
    6 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Basque_French @ 2,517148
    7 50% Welsh +25% English_Cornwall +25% Sardinian @ 2,520541
    8 50% Welsh +25% Welsh +25% Basque_French @ 2,550904
    9 50% Welsh +25% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2,55441
    10 50% Welsh +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Welsh @ 2,56084
    11 50% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Welsh @ 2,573463
    12 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo @ 2,621601
    13 50% Italian_Bergamo +25% Lithuanian +25% Welsh @ 2,693778
    14 50% English_Cornwall +25% Sardinian +25% Welsh @ 2,736934
    15 50% Welsh +25% Latvian +25% Sardinian @ 2,764804
    16 50% Welsh +25% Basque_French +25% Basque_French @ 2,782885
    17 50% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria +25% Welsh @ 2,783859
    18 50% Welsh +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,790687
    19 50% English_Cornwall +25% Italian_Bergamo +25% Basque_French @ 2,793707
    20 50% English_Cornwall +25% English_Cornwall +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,806113
    153813 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Sardinian+Welsh+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,321182
    2 Lithuanian+Sardinian+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,340034
    3 Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,45097
    4 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Welsh+Basque_Fre nch @ 2,487499
    5 English_Cornwall+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,501096
    6 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Basque_French @ 2,517148
    7 English_Cornwall+Sardinian+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,520541
    8 Welsh+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,550904
    9 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,55441
    10 Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,56084
    11 English_Cornwall+Lithuanian+Sardinian+Welsh @ 2,566081
    12 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+ Welsh @ 2,573463
    13 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Welsh+Basque_Fren ch @ 2,607307
    14 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Italian_Bergamo @ 2,621601
    15 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,655691
    16 Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Welsh @ 2,693778
    17 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Sardinian+Welsh @ 2,736934
    18 Latvian+Sardinian+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,764804
    19 Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French+Basque_French @ 2,782885
    20 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabri a+Welsh @ 2,783859
    21 English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,790687
    22 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+ Basque_French @ 2,793707
    23 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,806113
    24 Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh+Welsh @ 2,821908
    25 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Lithuanian+Sardi nian @ 2,834474
    26 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Basque _French @ 2,839088
    27 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Italian_Bergamo+L ithuanian @ 2,846973
    28 Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh @ 2,865013
    29 English_Cornwall+Latvian+Sardinian+Welsh @ 2,866314
    30 Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 2,898184
    31 English_Cornwall+Welsh+Basque_French+Basque_French @ 2,906986
    32 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall +Sardinian @ 2,972785
    33 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Spanis h_Cantabria @ 2,998428
    34 English_Cornwall+Spanish_Cantabria+Welsh+Basque_Fr ench @ 3,002003
    35 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Latvian+Sardinia n @ 3,017288
    36 Italian_Bergamo+Latvian+Welsh+Basque_French @ 3,035827
    37 English_Cornwall+German+Welsh+Basque_French @ 3,064187
    38 German+Welsh+Welsh+Basque_French @ 3,065192
    39 English_Cornwall+English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+ Lithuanian @ 3,065829
    40 English_Cornwall+Italian_Bergamo+Lithuanian+Welsh @ 3,066472
    879090 iterations.





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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Galicia @ 3,465788
    2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,497917
    3 Spanish_Murcia @ 4,34277
    4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4,520066
    5 Spanish_Extramadura @ 4,633472
    6 Spanish_Aragon @ 4,936483
    7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 5,514591
    8 Spanish_Andaloucia @ 5,524944
    9 Spanish_Valencia @ 5,789584
    10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 7,536413
    11 French_South @ 9,340322
    12 Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 9,424029
    13 French @ 10,286742
    14 Italian_Bergamo @ 10,867177
    15 Montenegrin @ 10,987643
    16 Basque_French @ 11,494816
    17 Romanian @ 11,724857
    18 Belgian @ 12,568816
    19 Austrian @ 15,546617
    20 Albanian @ 15,72789
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,789848
    2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,00306
    3 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,445448
    4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2,700595
    5 Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,824123
    6 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,865358
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,004586
    8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,181678
    9 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,2092
    10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Valencia @ 3,285933
    11 Spanish_Extramadura+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,456061
    12 Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,465788
    13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,495904
    14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,497917
    15 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,636227
    16 Spanish_Cataluna+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,749024
    17 Spanish_Cantabria+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,895699
    18 Spanish_Extramadura+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,954791
    19 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Aragon @ 3,993361
    20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Extramadura @ 4,109749
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 1,789848
    2 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 1,825624
    3 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 1,900496
    4 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1,989878
    5 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,00306
    6 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,061161
    7 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2,061686
    8 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,106399
    9 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2,11303
    10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,153539
    11 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,161303
    12 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,216718
    13 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,292994
    14 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,31897
    15 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2,335048
    16 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,337135
    17 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,342966
    18 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,353223
    19 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 2,364081
    20 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,375566
    137406 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,789848
    2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,825624
    3 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,900496
    4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Ga licia+Spanish_Murcia @ 1,989878
    5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,00306
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,061161
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,061686
    8 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Gal icia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,106399
    9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,11303
    10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,153539
    11 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,161303
    12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura+Spanis h_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,208836
    13 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Ext ramadura+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,210489
    14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,216718
    15 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,292994
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Ga licia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,31897
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,335048
    18 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,337135
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,342966
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,353223
    21 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,364081
    22 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,375566
    23 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,391203
    24 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2,415929
    25 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Galicia+Spanish_Valencia @ 2,420838
    26 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Ext ramadura+Spanish_Extramadura @ 2,426027
    27 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,436789
    28 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Cast illa_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,445448
    29 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla _Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,466829
    30 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna+Spanish_G alicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,487845
    31 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura+Spanis h_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,492382
    32 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 2,502328
    33 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Mu rcia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,504317
    34 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura+Spanis h_Extramadura+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,519584
    35 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,522784
    36 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Gal icia+Spanish_Murcia @ 2,52466
    37 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,534946
    38 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Valencia @ 2,54063
    39 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +Spanish_Extramadura+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,558671
    40 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla _Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,593488
    692681 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,660811
    2 Spanish_Murcia @ 4,264843
    3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4,850484
    4 Spanish_Galicia @ 4,990478
    5 Spanish_Aragon @ 5,401383
    6 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6,441364
    7 Spanish_Valencia @ 7,163514
    8 Spanish_Extramadura @ 7,670144
    9 Spanish_Andaloucia @ 8,077526
    10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 10,221263
    11 Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 17,558907
    12 Sicilian_West @ 17,61249
    13 French @ 17,871402
    14 French_South @ 17,911469
    15 Basque_French @ 17,962601
    16 Montenegrin @ 18,113041
    17 Belgian @ 18,246003
    18 Romanian @ 18,25081
    19 Italian_Bergamo @ 18,462211
    20 Slovenian @ 18,536132
    68 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,934852
    2 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,113541
    3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,174548
    4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,262874
    5 Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,414963
    6 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,477431
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3,520671
    8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,573606
    9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,660811
    10 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,727447
    11 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,731408
    12 Spanish_Extramadura+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,847521
    13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,928767
    14 Spanish_Cataluna+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,005987
    15 French_South+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,116579
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Valencia @ 4,239073
    17 Spanish_Murcia+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,264843
    18 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,318998
    19 Spanish_Cantabria+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4,337504
    20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,401577
    2346 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,848457
    2 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,926844
    3 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,934852
    4 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 2,975077
    5 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% French_South +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,024235
    6 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,085172
    7 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,089433
    8 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3,103675
    9 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,104066
    10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Andaloucia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,105482
    11 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,113541
    12 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,115585
    13 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,146193
    14 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3,149446
    15 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,151564
    16 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,174548
    17 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3,187552
    18 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,190863
    19 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,193035
    20 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3,194848
    156702 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Gal icia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,848457
    2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,926844
    3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,934852
    4 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,975077
    5 French_South+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galic ia+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,024235
    6 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Ext ramadura+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,072697
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    9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Ga licia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,103675
    10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,104066
    11 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,105482
    12 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cat aluna+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,107052
    13 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Galicia+Span ish_Galicia @ 3,113541
    14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,115585
    15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,146193
    16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,149446
    17 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,151564
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna+Spanish_G alicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,174073
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,174548
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,187552
    21 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna+Spanish_G alicia+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,190863
    22 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,193035
    23 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_L eon+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,194848
    24 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Galicia+Spa nish_Murcia @ 3,20085
    25 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Gal icia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,20647
    26 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia+Spanish_Ga licia+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,216114
    27 French_South+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extra madura+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,236263
    28 French_South+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Casti lla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,237968
    29 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,239701
    30 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla _Y_Leon+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,243866
    31 Spanish_Andaloucia+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish _Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,260902
    32 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,262874
    33 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,26841
    34 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Cataluna+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,27344
    35 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Extramadura+Spanis h_Galicia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,285523
    36 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,293172
    37 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cas tilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,298249
    38 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Extramadura+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,304843
    39 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Sp anish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,31487
    40 Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Spanish_Ext ramadura+Spanish_Extramadura @ 3,321103
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