Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Y Elite: $395!

  1. #1
    Company Rep
    Posts
    961
    Sex
    Y-DNA
    R1b U106 Z81

    Y Elite: $395!

    We have a new price:
    $395

    https://www.fullgenomes.com
    FGC team member.

    Hidden Content

    Join our FGC google group:
    Hidden Content

    R1b-U106 google group:
    Forum for discussion of R1b-U106
    Discussion related to all products by any company will be welcome. Discussion will not be limited to FGC

    Join here:
    Hidden Content

  2. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to FGC Corp For This Useful Post:

     aaronbee2010 (04-22-2019),  Dr_McNinja (05-28-2019),  Earl Davis (05-27-2019),  Marmaduke (05-27-2019),  Peter MacDonald (05-27-2019),  RCO (04-23-2019),  Robert1 (05-28-2019)

  3. #2
    Registered Users
    Posts
    82
    Sex
    Location
    Canada
    Ethnicity
    Scottish / Irish
    Nationality
    Canadian
    Y-DNA
    R1b L1065/S744/S756
    mtDNA
    T2b-T16362C

    Canada Scotland Ireland
    Great deal on the best NGS test on the market!!!

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Peter MacDonald For This Useful Post:

     Robert1 (05-28-2019)

  5. #3
    Registered Users
    Posts
    84
    Location
    ancestry Irish, Scot, Eng (Devon,Somerset,Lancashire,Cheshire, Shrop,Essex)+ Crossen(Oder)-Gruenberg
    Ethnicity
    Celt? Vik? East-Ger Sorb?
    Nationality
    Y hu R1b/U106/S1688/Y9825
    Y-DNA
    f.R1a/L1029/YP263
    mtDNA
    K1a26,HV0-T195C

    I posted on a German facebook group about this test. I thought this test would provide both the YDNA and the mitochondrial results? I was challenged on this and said I'd check.

    (I know FTDNA runs additional software to remove the Mito results. I thought so FTDNA could also sell that product but maybe it is because there are not sufficient coverage, although I know there are usually many mitochondria for each nucleus in a cell.)


    So now I have to get this confirmed. ..ie 1) whether the Y Elite tests have mitochondrial results. is it possible to extract these oneself?

    and 2) when extracted, are the mito results as detailed as a FTDNA mito test..ie the same results which could be run thru some software when extracted from the BAM to provideHVR1, HVR2 and Coding differences from the RSRS or rCRS

    and 3) is this included in the latest YElite test ..ie extracted for you. (just having the mito there to be able to extract is good enough, but this is obviously better but not expected)

    My comment on using FGC YElite test due to someone else recommending another lab (Dante), to be able to get the YDNA and the mito , and I suggested YElite as a reasonable alternative for both the Y and Mito, without the expense of a WGS and with more certainty about getting results in a timely manner

    ... but Perhaps I was wrong about the mito being available as a side product of the Y Elite. I was asked "am I sure about this?" so I said I'd check. I realise it is designed a YDNA test, just wondering about the mito.

    Personally I've ordered the WGS (20X) from FGC, and am expecting results within a few weeks , so I'll get the mito as well as his Y.(and autosomal).
    Last edited by Jan_Noack; 06-11-2019 at 07:59 PM.

  6. #4
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,179
    Sex
    Location
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Ethnicity
    Pictland/Deira
    Y-DNA
    R1b-M222-FGC5864
    mtDNA
    H5r*

    My Y Elite chrM coverage is complete and about 50x read depth. I got a FASTA file which I uploaded to Genbank.

    For comparison chrM in my YSEQ WGS has about 8000x depth coverage and also included a separate FASTA file.

    They both gave me the same resolution ie complete to the latest M tree (v17).

    I think the comments I saw elsewhere sounded more like they came from a certain rival's marketing department.
    YSEQ:#37; YFull: YF01405 (Y Elite 2013)
    WGS (Full Genomes Nov 2015, YSEQ Feb 2019, Dante Mar 2019, FGC-10X Linked Reads Apr 2019, Dante-Nanopore May 2019) - further WGS tests pending ;-)
    Ancestry GCs: Scots in central Scotland & Ulster, Ireland; English in Yorkshire & Pennines
    Hidden Content
    FBIMatch: A828783 (autosomal DNA) for segment matching DO NOT POST ADMIXTURE REPORTS USING MY KIT

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to MacUalraig For This Useful Post:

     Jan_Noack (06-11-2019)

  8. #5
    Registered Users
    Posts
    463
    Sex
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Ethnicity
    European
    Nationality
    British
    Y-DNA
    I-L338
    mtDNA
    J1c1

    United Kingdom England England North of England Norfolk Scotland Ireland
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan_Noack View Post
    I posted on a German facebook group about this test. I thought this test would provide both the YDNA and the mitochondrial results? I was challenged on this and said I'd check.

    (I know FTDNA runs additional software to remove the Mito results. I thought so FTDNA could also sell that product but maybe it is because there are not sufficient coverage, although I know there are usually many mitochondria for each nucleus in a cell.)


    So now I have to get this confirmed. ..ie 1) whether the Y Elite tests have mitochondrial results. is it possible to extract these oneself? (just having the ability to extract the mito is enough, but this is better)

    and 2) when extracted, are the mito results as detailed as a FTDNA mito test..ie the same results which could be run thru some software when extracted from the BAM to provideHVR1, HVR2 and Coding differences from the RSRS or rCRS

    and 3) is this included in the latest YElite test ..ie extracted for you. (just having the mito there to be able to extract is good enough, but this is obviously better but not expected)

    My comment on using FGC YElite test due to someone else recommending another lab (Dante), to be able to get the YDNA and the mito , and I suggested YElite as a reasonable alternative for both the Y and Mito, without the expense of a WGS and with more certainty about getting results in a timely manner

    ... but Perhaps I was wrong about the mito being available as a side product of the Y Elite. I was asked "am I sure about this?" so I said I'd check. I realise it is designed a YDNA test, just wondering about the mito.

    Personally I've ordered the WGS (20X) from FGC, and am expecting results within a few weeks , so I'll get the mito as well as his Y.(and autosomal).
    The YElite test includes mitochondrial DNA results. While the YElite is designed to sequence the Y chromosome, there is some off target coverage and since there's a lot of mitochondria in each cell, the YElite will pick up that. Big Y does this too, but as you say FTDNA strip out the mt-related information out of the raw data before making it available to you.

    The YElite mtDNA results include three text files - variants with respect to rCRS, variants with respect to RSRS, FASTA file. No need to extract them yourself from the BAM. You can do everything with this that you can do with FTDNA mtDNA test, except join FTDNA mtDNA projects or matching. You can upload the mtDNA data from a YElite to Genbank, MitoYDNA, James Lick's mthap site, etc. If you upload to YFull, they'll extract mtDNA from the YElite BAM and display in your results there.

    As it's off target, there might be some missed reads compared to a fully sequenced mtDNA. Comparing my YElite with FTDNA's full sequence mtDNA at James Lick's mthap site, they're pretty close to identical. Both tests found 16569 markers at 16569 positions covering 100.0% of mtDNA. Reports gave identical results for haplogroup, SNP matches, mismatches and extras. So in my case, all the same. I've read from others that there are a few misread bases in their results but more than 90% is correct. Since it's bonus data rather than what the test is designed for I'd say that's not bad at all.

    Main difference from a WGS in the autosomal results. There are some off target reads but since nuclear DNA less abundant in cells compared to mitochondria, don't get as much data. There's also a little bit of difference in the Y-DNA as the WGS has better horizontal coverage and will be a little better in some of the positions which can be one-read, ambiguous or no call in a YElite. And the WGS would pick up anything missed in a YElite off-target. But the YElite will get almost everything of the Y and mt DNA.

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to deadly77 For This Useful Post:

     Jan_Noack (06-11-2019),  JMcB (06-12-2019)

  10. #6
    Registered Users
    Posts
    945
    Sex
    Location
    Canada
    Nationality
    Canadian
    Y-DNA
    I-A14097

    Canada Netherlands United Kingdom Ireland France Cornwall
    I seem to recall from Roberta Estes' blog that Big Y also provided mtDNA results via YFull. However that was discussed 5 years ago and things may have changed since then.

  11. #7
    Registered Users
    Posts
    84
    Location
    ancestry Irish, Scot, Eng (Devon,Somerset,Lancashire,Cheshire, Shrop,Essex)+ Crossen(Oder)-Gruenberg
    Ethnicity
    Celt? Vik? East-Ger Sorb?
    Nationality
    Y hu R1b/U106/S1688/Y9825
    Y-DNA
    f.R1a/L1029/YP263
    mtDNA
    K1a26,HV0-T195C

    Yes, since I have heard, 2015 FTDNA runs another program to remove the mtDNA before releasing results. I think this delayed the conversion too. Early testers got mtDNA, others didn't.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Jan_Noack For This Useful Post:

     JMcB (06-12-2019)

Similar Threads

  1. Y Elite: $425
    By FGC Corp in forum Full Genomes
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-02-2019, 10:33 AM
  2. FGC: $50 discount: Y Elite becomes $395
    By FGC Corp in forum Full Genomes
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-31-2019, 10:14 PM
  3. Y Elite: now $450
    By FGC Corp in forum Full Genomes
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-24-2019, 11:02 PM
  4. The settlement of the Germanic elite in Kujawy
    By lukaszM in forum Ancient (aDNA)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-20-2018, 05:08 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •