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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I've uploaded to GEDmatch Genesis most of available ancient DNA from Poland as well as some samples from neighbouring countries
    Great, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Mesolithic Polish Hunter-Gatherer is from the study Fernandes et al. 2018:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-33067-w

    Genesis Kit Number: XM9113846
    Name: N22 Poland Hunter-Gatherer

    Similarity map:

    Interesting that similarity to northern Poles (even northern Western Poles) is higher than to Belarusians:
    (Kashubia 73, Wielkopolska 70, Mazovia 70, Suwalki 72, Lithuania 75, Latvia 74, Estonia 84, and so on)





    Some GEDmatch results:

    Eurogenes K15:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 36.68
    2 North_Sea 34.81
    3 Eastern_Euro 16.84
    4 Atlantic 11.67

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian 11.11
    2 Lithuanian 13.77
    3 Belorussian 15.73
    4 Ukrainian 15.97
    5 Polish 16.01
    6 Finnish 16.02
    7 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.16
    8 South_Polish 16.7
    9 Estonian_Polish 17.05
    10 Southwest_Russian 17.27
    11 Russian_Smolensk 17.72
    12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.92
    13 Southwest_Finnish 17.99
    14 East_Finnish 18.61
    15 La_Brana-1 20.06
    16 Kargopol_Russian 20.13
    17 North_Swedish 20.64
    18 Erzya 21.39
    19 Hungarian 21.64
    20 Swedish 22.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.8% Estonian + 3.2% Swedish @ 11.09
    2 98.3% Estonian + 1.7% West_Norwegian @ 11.1
    3 100% Estonian + 0% Abhkasian @ 11.11
    4 100% Estonian + 0% Adygei @ 11.11
    5 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 11.11
    6 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.11
    7 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 11.11

    8 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 11.11
    9 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 11.11
    10 100% Estonian + 0% Algerian @ 11.11
    11 100% Estonian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.11
    12 100% Estonian + 0% Altaian @ 11.11
    13 100% Estonian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 11.11
    14 100% Estonian + 0% Armenian @ 11.11
    15 100% Estonian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 11.11
    16 100% Estonian + 0% Assyrian @ 11.11
    17 100% Estonian + 0% Austrian @ 11.11
    18 100% Estonian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 11.11
    19 100% Estonian + 0% Azeri @ 11.11
    20 100% Estonian + 0% Balkar @ 11.11

    Eurogenes K13:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 61.09
    2 North_Atlantic 38.24
    3 Oceanian 0.67

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Lithuanian 12.85
    2 Estonian 12.88
    3 Finnish 14.84
    4 East_Finnish 15.72
    5 Belorussian 15.72
    6 Estonian_Polish 16.98
    7 Russian_Smolensk 17.45
    8 Southwest_Finnish 17.77
    9 Polish 19
    10 La_Brana-1 19.4
    11 Kargopol_Russian 19.68
    12 Southwest_Russian 19.76
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.99
    14 Erzya 21.22
    15 South_Polish 22.15
    16 Ukrainian 22.31
    17 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.68
    18 North_Swedish 24.02
    19 Croatian 29.48
    20 Swedish 29.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.5% Lithuanian + 18.5% La_Brana-1 @ 12.4
    2 51.2% Lithuanian + 48.8% Estonian @ 12.55
    3 78.7% Lithuanian + 21.3% Finnish @ 12.68
    4 92.6% Lithuanian + 7.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 12.82
    5 94.2% Lithuanian + 5.8% East_Finnish @ 12.84

    6 97.5% Lithuanian + 2.5% North_Swedish @ 12.84
    7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 12.85
    8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 12.85
    9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 12.85
    10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 12.85
    11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 12.85
    12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 12.85
    13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 12.85
    14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 12.85
    15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 12.85
    16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 12.85
    17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 12.85
    18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 12.85
    19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 12.85
    20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 12.85
    Google translate:
    According to prof. Lorkiewicz's genetic base and the possibility of a thorough analysis of morphological features will help determine if the Slavs - including the Polish population - are indigenous in these areas, or - as archaeologists claim - only arrived in the V-VI century AD. A huge genetic base will allow us to compare populations from the last millennium with populations from before our era.

    There are already first conclusions from the research of the team from the Biobank Laboratory and the Chair of Anthropology. The researchers suppose that in the case of the population living in Kujawy there was a surprisingly strong genetic continuity, dating back to the time of the first farmers from before 7.5 thousand. years.

    "It seems that we are dealing with an interesting genetic continuation of the population living in Kujawy from the early Middle Ages to the nineteenth century." These populations, as if their roots probably reach the Neolithic and even mesolithic "- suggests the scientist.

    http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/aktualnos...na-platforme-e

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    Females from the Kow-OVIA were closely related with Neolithic farmers (most likely they represented the local population related with the Przeworsk culture).



    SMC - Salzmünde group (Funnelbeaker culture)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldemar
    There are already first conclusions from the research of the team from the Biobank Laboratory and the Chair of Anthropology. The researchers suppose that in the case of the population living in Kujawy there was a surprisingly strong genetic continuity, dating back to the time of the first farmers from before 7.5 thousand. years.

    "It seems that we are dealing with an interesting genetic continuation of the population living in Kujawy from the early Middle Ages to the nineteenth century." These populations, as if their roots probably reach the Neolithic and even mesolithic "- suggests the scientist.[/URL]
    Christ almighty, that's unreal, if it checks out. I wonder if they looked like Sardinians.
    Ελευθερία ή θάνατος.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michalis Moriopoulos View Post
    Christ almighty, that's unreal, if it checks out. I wonder if they looked like Sardinians.
    Real interesting. Have they done test of the modern population from that area?
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    1. 63.1% Swedish+36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Real interesting. Have they done test of the modern population from that area?
    Yes...and they look like other modern-day Poles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldemar View Post
    Yes...and they look like other modern-day Poles
    Thank you for the answer. I thought maybe 10 ~ 20 percent neolithic would remain.
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    Fun fact, was reading some archeology papers on West Balts and found a mention that Face Urn culture had some suspicious Etruscan vibe. Forgot about this and then read on farmer like folk in Poland and it became interesting.

    Quick googling brought me to this site, it has some sensational vibe, but if farmer genes check out who knows:
    http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.c...scans.html?m=1

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