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Thread: Am I part Celtic? a comparison of 23andme, Myheritage, and GEDmatch data

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    Am I part Celtic? a comparison of 23andme, Myheritage, and GEDmatch data

    long story short, I'm part East-Asian and part European.

    My grandpa died when my parent was very young so we never knew his ancestral background. I've never met him since he died so long ago. We just thought he's French. but it seems like he lived in Rennes which is Brittany.



    But we took a few DNA tests and this is what we got for my fathers's European side

    23andMe


    Paternal Haplogroup R-L2 (is this the same as R1b-L21)?

    French German 19.8%, British Irish 6.9%, Broadly NW European 8.8
    Italian 5.3, Spanish Portuguese 5.2, Broadly S.European 5.2, Broadly European 2.0

    GEDMatch. Eurogenes K13
    North_Atlantic 24.42 Pct
    Baltic 11.06 Pct
    West_Med 5.18 Pct
    East_Med 4.77 Pct
    Red_Sea 3.32 Pct

    Oracle 4
    Using 2 population admixture:
    50% Southeast_English +50% xxx @ 4.859379
    3 population admixture:
    50% XX +25% West_German +25% West_Scottish @ 4.734057
    4 population admixture:
    French + North_Dutch +xx + xx @ 4.415691

    Eurogenes EUTest V2 K15
    2 population
    50% Southwest_English +50% XX @ 5.306011
    3 pop
    50% XX +25% West_German +25% West_Scottish @ 5.065431
    4
    French + North_Dutch + XX + XX @ 4.749558

    MyHeritage
    50% English-Irish

    MDLP 22 (I found most of their calculators way off for both European and Asian sides)
    2 pop - 50% Austrian derived
    3 pop - 50% Austrian derived, 25% XX, 25% xx
    4 pop - Basque derived, Latvian derived, xx, and xx

    Dodecad V3
    50% xx, 50% N.European Xing
    50% xx, 25% Portuguese, 25% Swedish


    I'd like to try those new Eurogenes calculators but no idea how to use them

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    No, R-L2 is a subclade of the Alpine Celtic R-U152; the percentages of Spanish/Portuguese (now called Iberian) and Italian lead me to believe that your grandfather came from further south in France than Rennes, which is in Brittany; a native Breton would probably have more British/Irish (I have 56.4%, being 3/8 English and 3/16 Irish, more or less); your y-haplogroup is Celtic, however. The predominant Celtic component in your DNA would be Gaulish, the Celtic people native to France.

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    Sounds like a Lannister/Stark hybrid, if the first men were Celts and Andals Germanic, lol.
    You got the wrong number, can I take a message?

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    I would bet money that at some point in time, at least some of your ancestors would have been a part of one of the Celtic cultures.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts look at the map of where people who were a part of a Celtic culture lived on this Wiki page

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyP37 View Post
    No, R-L2 is a subclade of the Alpine Celtic R-U152; the percentages of Spanish/Portuguese (now called Iberian) and Italian lead me to believe that your grandfather came from further south in France than Rennes, which is in Brittany; a native Breton would probably have more British/Irish (I have 56.4%, being 3/8 English and 3/16 Irish, more or less); your y-haplogroup is Celtic, however. The predominant Celtic component in your DNA would be Gaulish, the Celtic people native to France.
    Thanks for the feed back.

    Do you think if I tried that new
    K71/K54 calculator, the results would change much?

    All in all, all these tests seem to indicate 10% Southern European (either Iberian or Italian.. usually the latter).. and the remaining 40% being Northwestern European.

    it could be my grandfather was mixed as well. maybe 1/4th Southern European and 3/4th NW European?

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