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Thread: DNA of the Chieftains of Ireland, Scottish Clan Chieftains and Kings of South Wales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter MacDonald View Post
    I assume that I would have to be an Admin to various project to have access to the data/format required, am I correct in this understanding/belief?
    All of my data comes from public FTDNA YSTR reports. Extracting the data can be done pretty quickly with the add-on PowerQuery which can be downloaded for EXCEL from Microsoft. The real effort are the derived fields:

    1) the chain of YSNP branches is pretty labor intensive to create and changes constantly.
    2) Updates in YSNP branches is constant these days (mainly come from terminal YSNP).
    3) Surnames have to be extracted from EKA and donor surname fields (and check for updates).
    4) You have to catch Y67 to Y111 upgrades.
    5) I use Big Y data comes from YTree (adding negative downstream YSNP branches helps SAPP).
    6) If your add any new fields (like I now keep the source EKA and donor surname fields), it takes
    a lot of time to add 62,000 Y67/Y111 testers from haplogroup R (and update them over time).
    7) Normalizing the extra markers is manual as well.

    Collecting and scrubbing the data is 80 to 90 % of the labor. Determining the L1065 signature formula, the L1065 genetic distance formula and the L1065 prediction model (using AcaStat) takes very little time. SAPP takes
    little time to create but runs for quite some time for 629 testers (the approximate current limit of SAPP). The 625 tester limit forced me to only include testers that were confirmed to be Z16325. The 134 testers
    confirmed to be other L1065 branches, the 67 testers with only L1065 confirmed, the 1,374 testers that are predicted to be L1065 were not included in the chart. Manually charting 2,200 testers would take
    a lot of time as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter MacDonald View Post
    There appears to be a connection to Clan MacFarlane:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups.../about/results
    Lennox and Haldane too, as far as I know. I think they are all lowlanders.
    íViva Cuba Libre!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    Thanks. I do match a lot of McLeans, they are however a different branch to me.
    McLean seems to be the biggest core group clan in L193 so far. McKenzie is L513 but not L193. Further downstream towards my SNP (FGC36506) is a big core group of Clan Drummond. The first of that clan was a Malcolm Beg, said to be a west highlander. So probably there is the link with the McLeans further back. The McLean heartlands were south west highlands (particularly Mull). I was there a couple of years ago visiting the amazing McLean castle. The chief was actually walking round chatting to guests. Very nice guy. I shoulda asked him to test

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    McLean seems to be the biggest core group clan in L193 so far. McKenzie is L513 but not L193. Further downstream towards my SNP (FGC36506) is a big core group of Clan Drummond. The first of that clan was a Malcolm Beg, said to be a west highlander. So probably there is the link with the McLeans further back. The McLean heartlands were south west highlands (particularly Mull). I was there a couple of years ago visiting the amazing McLean castle. The chief was actually walking round chatting to guests. Very nice guy. I shoulda asked him to test
    Yeah, there seems to be a few subgroups but yes McLean is by far the largest group. I have noticed a few other subgroups, for example, Elliott or Drummond.

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