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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul333 View Post
    New Update on YFullmtdna, H1c3, is now referenced under a new subclade on the tree as H-c1m2c23d11e, under the SNP references A257G, and T8473C. No further information regarding dates etc yet,
    Looking on the Yfull M tree today, there is a reference of a new subclade of Mtdna 'H1c32', under these two SNPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul333 View Post
    Looking on the Yfull M tree today, there is a reference of a new subclade of Mtdna 'H1c32', under these two SNPs.
    The reference has now been further updated to show Snp's A257G,* T8473C, now represent MtDNA 'H1c3b'. This is the most recent update on the YFull M Tree.
    Last edited by Paul333; 08-30-2019 at 12:06 PM.

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    Thanks Paul

    I thought 16183c 16189C! 16362C represented H1c3b. A257G and T8473 only represent H1c3.

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    Thats what I thought, as my earlier posts showed I was negative for the earlier Snps that identified H1c3a and H1c3b, but now it is identifying the two Snps for H1c3 as identifying H1c3b ?. They are making changes but what new evidence or information are they using ??.

    I also think a lot of former H subclades have been moved, some to V. I am now checking regular for changes as it might change again as it states under construction.

    Not sure about the other two SNP's but SNP T16362C is now under the HVOa branch of the Y Full M tree, as 'new subclade V2e'. It seems it is moved out of the H1c tree completely, and H1c3 has also been removed. The H1c tree is identified from SNP T477C.

    On gen bank it is also showing 'T16362C' along side T16124C as representing, 'V2e', but also has both T16189C and 'T16362C', representing H1c3b.
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    Looking at the YFull M Tree, Latest update of 28th Sept 2019, Mtdna Haplogroup H1c3 is now again present, and reverted back to its previous listing position for SNPs A257G,* T8473C, and is 'not' representing the lower subclade of H1c3b.

    H1c3b, seems to have also changed back to its original position, and its identifying Snps T16189C!* T16362C, are once again referencing Mtdna Haplogroup H1c3b.

    These changes are confusing, but it is still informing ' under construction '

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