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    “Holding the peace” Common goals and themes in Anglo-Saxon peacemaking ...

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    “Holding the peace”
    Common goals and themes in Anglo-Saxon peacemaking, 871 CE - 994 CE.

    https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/3u0...23b880eee8.jpg

    The two emperor coinage. Depicting Alfred the Great and Ceolwulf II. Figure 3 of this project.


    My MA dissertation compared the themes and clauses of all four Anglo-Saxon treaties that have survived into the modern period, and that common scholarly consensus agrees are legitimate treaties. These include: The Treaty between Alfred and Guthrum; the Ordinance of Dunsate; the Anglo-Norman Treaty and the Treaty between Æthelred and Olaf. The project focuses on identifying common means by which Anglo-Saxon rulers and communities approached peacemaking, and highlighting some of the goals by which they were pursued.


    https://www.academia.edu/39086245/_H...ard=view-paper
    Last edited by JMcB; 05-13-2019 at 09:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Perhaps of interest to some:


    “Holding the peace”
    Common goals and themes in Anglo-Saxon peacemaking, 871 CE - 994 CE.

    https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/3u0...23b880eee8.jpg

    The two emperor coinage. Depicting Alfred the Great and Ceolwulf II. Figure 3 of this project.


    My MA dissertation compared the themes and clauses of all four Anglo-Saxon treaties that have survived into the modern period, and that common scholarly consensus agrees are legitimate treaties. These include: The Treaty between Alfred and Guthrum; the Ordinance of Dunsate; the Anglo-Norman Treaty and the Treaty between Æthelred and Olaf. The project focuses on identifying common means by which Anglo-Saxon rulers and communities approached peacemaking, and highlighting some of the goals by which they were pursued.


    https://www.academia.edu/39086245/_H...ard=view-paper
    Lucky guy to have Hines as a supervisor. I heard him just the other week on BBC radio. He's done some leading work in particular on Anglo-Saxon artefact styles (one of my chief interests), some of which now bear his name due to his categorisation systems. Off topic, but on the radio show he told Melvyn Bragg in passing that there is evidence for English having influenced Frisian rather than the other way round, which intrigued me... Thanks for the link JMcB.

    Edited to fix spelling of Bragg's first name. Oops...
    Last edited by JonikW; 05-14-2019 at 09:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Lucky guy to have Hines as a supervisor. I heard him just the other week on BBC radio. He's done some leading work in particular on Anglo-Saxon artefact styles (one of my chief interests), some of which now bear his name due to his categorisation systems. Off topic, but on the radio show he told Melvyn Bragg in passing that there is evidence for English having influenced Frisian rather than the other way round, which intrigued me... Thanks for the link JMcB.

    Edited to fix spelling of Bragg's first name. Oops...
    I guess you could say part of the Anglo-Saxons went to Frisia part to Anglia. Westergo the in the fourth century abandoned part of Friesland was their stronghold. So I guess their languages Old English and Old Frisian is an offspring of the same stream....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Perhaps of interest to some:


    “Holding the peace”
    Common goals and themes in Anglo-Saxon peacemaking, 871 CE - 994 CE.

    https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/3u0...23b880eee8.jpg

    The two emperor coinage. Depicting Alfred the Great and Ceolwulf II. Figure 3 of this project.


    My MA dissertation compared the themes and clauses of all four Anglo-Saxon treaties that have survived into the modern period, and that common scholarly consensus agrees are legitimate treaties. These include: The Treaty between Alfred and Guthrum; the Ordinance of Dunsate; the Anglo-Norman Treaty and the Treaty between Æthelred and Olaf. The project focuses on identifying common means by which Anglo-Saxon rulers and communities approached peacemaking, and highlighting some of the goals by which they were pursued.


    https://www.academia.edu/39086245/_H...ard=view-paper
    Thanks and congrats with your dissertation I will read it with interest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Thanks and congrats with your dissertation I will read it with interest!
    Hello Finn,

    Just so there’s no confusion, no one here wrote that dissertation. That’s just how the author - who posted it on academia.edu - begins his work: “My MA dissertation compared … “
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Hello Finn,

    Just so there’s no confusion, no one here wrote that dissertation. That’s just how the author - who posted it on academia.edu - begins his work: “My MA dissertation compared … “
    Excuse I was confused indeed by the words My MA Dissertation....so I thought may be JMcB has done that dissertation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I guess you could say part of the Anglo-Saxons went to Frisia part to Anglia. Westergo the in the fourth century abandoned part of Friesland was their stronghold. So I guess their languages Old English and Old Frisian is an offspring of the same stream....
    Have you seen your ancients result with the updated Global25?
    distance%=0.5782

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    England_Saxon,26.2
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna,21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Have you seen your ancients result with the updated Global25?
    distance%=0.5782

    Finn

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    No not yet thanks for attending me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Have you seen your ancients result with the updated Global25?
    distance%=0.5782

    Finn

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    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna,21
    The Sigtuna admixture is what pulls your DNA to the North on mapping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    The Sigtuna admixture is what pulls your DNA to the North on mapping.
    Or the ‘Vikings’ must have settled in Groningen and Drenthe or the TRB-SGC admixtures in both regions (South Scandics and North Dutch) have created some similarities.....(educated guesses).
    Last edited by Finn; 05-15-2019 at 05:53 PM.

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