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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
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    These are scaled. My mother's ancestry is all Lebanese, except for an Armenian great-grandfather, so I think the Levant is correct. what's interesting to me is how unlike she appears to the England Roman outlier, whose Coptic or Bedouin doesnt seem to be a part of her mix. My dad has the Levant because of his minor Ashkenazi ancestry.
    The DEU Roman was an Iberian-like Roman soldier found in Bavaria, and I'm just messing around trying to figure out why soneone with mostly German and British ancestry has so much Iberian. it can't all have been from the Ashkenazi line. Thanks!

    edit-I'll try it again without the two outliers next time I'm near a real computer.
    Hello Dewsloth,

    Do you have any information on the Iberia_NE_RomP sample?
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    FT Big Y: I1-Z140 branch I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 930 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 1075 AD) >A13243/YSEQ (circa 1660 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
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    These are scaled. My mother's ancestry is all Lebanese, except for an Armenian great-grandfather, so I think the Levant is correct. what's interesting to me is how unlike she appears to the England Roman outlier, whose Coptic or Bedouin doesnt seem to be a part of her mix. My dad has the Levant because of his minor Ashkenazi ancestry.
    The DEU Roman was an Iberian-like Roman soldier found in Bavaria, and I'm just messing around trying to figure out why soneone with mostly German and British ancestry has so much Iberian. it can't all have been from the Ashkenazi line. Thanks!

    edit-I'll try it again without the two outliers next time I'm near a real computer.
    For scaled ancient data the results are surprisingly good!
    I do not remember heaving read that England Roman outlier is Coptic or Bedouin, but I can cannot read and remember everything.
    I should't take DEU Roman and Iberia Northeast RomP too literal. They may be proxies for too little Southern admixture or corrections for too much Northern admixture, moreover DEU Roman is a singleton.
    What surprises me is DEU Medieval ACD; several of them are very Eastern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Hello Dewsloth,

    Do you have any information on the Iberia_NE_RomP sample?
    I’m walking around with my phone, but IIRC they split the Empuries samples into Greek and Roman period samples but I don’t remember what group(s) they resembled.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    For scaled ancient data the results are surprisingly good!
    I do not remember heaving read that England Roman outlier is Coptic or Bedouin, but I can cannot read and remember everything.
    I should't take DEU Roman and Iberia Northeast RomP too literal. They may be proxies for too little Southern admixture or corrections for too much Northern admixture, moreover DEU Roman is a singleton.
    What surprises me is DEU Medieval ACD; several of them are very Eastern.
    Thank you!
    My dad always seems to score a decent amount of DEU ACD, but str220 is the only one who makes his top 250 in check it. She is a curious case. She looks far more northwestern autosomally than the other ACDs (not really different from the non ACD folks in some PCA), and was buried with an Ostrogothic brooch. So an eastern tribal import with western ancestry?
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Sure, no problem.

    (25% filter)

    Attachment 30472

    Thank IMO a very useful 'model' not because of the fit, here has Huijbregts a point.

    But it still does a good job to 'measure' the amount of HG, ENF and Steppe.

    I can easily see in your case that your Italian roots are 'responsible' for a higher ENF. My mother has a significant high HG (IMO due to TRB that has see the Sorsum sample a high HG amount).

    I'm curios how Huijbregts scores will be....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    I’m walking around with my phone, but IIRC they split the Empuries samples into Greek and Roman period samples but I don’t remember what group(s) they resembled.

    I ran a (scaled) Fit Check on her and got the following.


    01 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 French_South_Averaged Averaged 3.197
    02 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL I12034 Ancient; CE:550 3.206
    03 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Basque_Spanish BAS31 Modern; 3.301
    04 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Basque_Spanish BAS32 Modern; 3.407
    05 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Spanish_Cantabria HG01513 Modern; 3.459
    06 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 French_South SouthFrench4018 Modern; 3.471
    07 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Basque_Spanish BAS22 Modern; 3.57
    08 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Basque_Spanish_Averaged Averaged 3.573
    09 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 Iberia_East_IA_Averaged Averaged 3.607
    10 Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339 French_South SouthFrench3947 Modern; 3.608
    Last edited by JMcB; Yesterday at 05:59 PM.
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    FT Big Y: I1-Z140 branch I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 930 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 1075 AD) >A13243/YSEQ (circa 1660 AD).

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    In the runner I'm still on level 4 I hope soon it will 5, but until then, I replaced WHG by Motala HG. I guess for NW Europe more adjust.

    Pen=0,001
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    In this respect hardly difference between Britons (Roman Time) and Anglo-Saxons....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Thank you!
    My dad always seems to score a decent amount of DEU ACD, but str220 is the only one who makes his top 250 in check it. She is a curious case. She looks far more northwestern autosomally than the other ACDs (not really different from the non ACD folks in some PCA), and was buried with an Ostrogothic brooch. So an eastern tribal import with western ancestry?
    The DEU ACD samples are very heterogeneous. I get suspicious when only one sample matches the model. Chances are that you caught just a statistical effect (overfitting). I hope you didn't use pen=0.

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