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Thread: Relative finder distribution of South Asian Caste and Tribal Haplogroups

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    Also, thank you for the chart Soulblighter! So, the largest maternal haplogroup among my matches is by far H, followed, in descending order, by U, T, M, and J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sein View Post
    Also, thank you for the chart Soulblighter! So, the largest maternal haplogroup among my matches is by far H, followed, in descending order, by U, T, M, and J.
    Do you know if most of the mtDNA H comes from European "relatives"?
    Last edited by soulblighter; 12-13-2013 at 08:12 PM.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    How long does Geno 2.0 take to deliver results? Is it really 6-8 weeks or is it sooner? They just got my sample a few days ago.
    Mine were batched on 14/8/13 and results came on 8/9/13. What you mean by "you should post your Who am I results"? That will give you the results of my autosomal dna only which can be changed drastically within one generation. At Geno 2.0, I am J1 P58-Z1853* and Mt H14. Yes, you are right I am a Punjabi Jatt from India. Even when there are around 30 Z1853* in our story, only two other of my matches have written their story. One is a German and the other one a Norwegian.



    Southwest Asian
    50%
    Mediterranean
    19%
    Southeast Asian
    15%
    Northern European
    13%
    Northeast Asian
    2%

    My first reference population is Pamiri Tajikstan and the second one is Western Indian.

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    It seems most of the H does come from European "relatives", but at least three are South Asians. Interestingly, my non-South Asian R1a1a "relatives" tend to belong to H. Not really sure if that means anything significant.

    Thank you paulgill!
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    @Sein, Do you have a white American mother? You seem to have too many matches at 23andMe compared to other South Asians.

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    I don't know how to create a pie chart, but I'll jut list the haplogroups. I'm Nepalese btw. I removed R1b's as they are probably not from South Asia. Here are the rest:
    R1a1a
    R1a1a*
    R1a1a
    R1a1a
    R1a1a
    R1a1a
    C5a
    R1a1a
    R1a1a
    C5a
    R2
    C5a
    H1a*
    R1a1a
    C
    C5a
    D1
    R1a1a
    R1a1a
    N
    R2
    R1a1a
    H1a*

    Maternal:
    Maternal Haplogroup
    R6
    M34
    I5a
    U2
    U2c
    M3
    M35b2
    N1e'I
    U2c
    M35b
    T1a1
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    M5a2a1
    F1a'c
    N1e'I
    U2c
    H2a
    R6
    M4b
    M30d1
    H2a
    M5a2a1
    D4
    G2a1d
    D4
    M33b
    N1e'I
    U2b1
    T1a1
    M34b
    G2a1d
    M35b2
    U2c
    R5a2b
    H6a1a
    D4
    U5a1b
    M5b2a
    D4j1b


    Probably got some Tibetan in there. Not sure.

    @Sein, is your C5* relative from the Indian subcontinent? Just curious.
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    @paulgill - I'm pretty sure I don't, as I've had my mother genotyped at 23andMe . Though, I do seem to have more "relatives" than other people from Pakistan and India. And it seems the largest proportion of my "relatives" are non-South Asians (a lot of White Americans and Eastern Europeans, as well as quite a few Iranians). I think it boils down to me being a very liminal-peripheral South Asian. I'm probably not a South Asian in the "proper" or "robust" sense. A more concise and simple way to put it: I'm simultaneously a South Asian, West Asian, and Central Asian, with some distant connections to Northern-Eastern Europe. My ancestry is closely tied to all of these regions, especially the Asian ones, and I guess that is predictable for a Pashtun.
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    @Sein, is your C5* relative from the Indian subcontinent?
    I think this individual is from South Asia, since his maternal haplogroup is M4b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Very unusual groups for a South Asian. Is your line P58-?
    No, it is J1 P58+ with Z1853* as terminal SNP where my line split off from Z1865*. There are tens of thousands of us in India. Z1853* mutation supposed to be around 8000 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulblighter View Post
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    The Tamil Brahmin community appears very inbred.
    I bet the same is the case with my community, but I have the opposite situation due to that, since my community has limited presence on 23andme, I don't have any real relatives there.

    12 3rd and 4th 'cousins'

    Me U2b2 R1a1a*

    Female Northern Europe H1

    Male India M6 J2b2*

    Male U2e R1a1a*

    Female Michigan H1c

    Female California J1b1a

    Male U4a1 R1b1b2a1a2d

    Male M4-64 L1 (most likely India)

    Male K1c1b R1b1b2a1a1*

    Male T2 R1a1a

    Male H1b R1b1b2a1a

    Female Roane County, Tennessee J1c3b

    Female H5a1

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