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    My FTDNA J1 results

    I did the Y37 test. Like YSEQ, my haplogroup is J-M267 (J1).

    My Y STR results:
    12,22,14,11,14-18,11,15,12,13,11,31,19,8-9,11,12,25,14,20,26,12-14-16-17,11,10,22-22,15,14,20,18,33-35,13,10

    According to nevgen, my haplogroup is J1a2a1a2 P58.

    12 markers only 1 match (J1 YDNA project) - genetic distance 1

    25 markers only 1 match as well - genetic distance 1

    37 markers the match is the same as the 25 but with a genetic distance 2

    FTDNA recommends J1 - M267v3 SNP Pack. Im a bit lost here.
    Last edited by lppt; 05-17-2019 at 01:02 PM.

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    Your 37/2 match tested any other SNP ?
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
    mtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCO View Post
    Your 37/2 match tested any other SNP ?
    The 12 (J-M267) match no. The 25 and 37 that is the same, YSC0000235. What does it mean?

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    YSC0000235/PF4881 here:
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z2317/
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
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    North_Swedish + PT + PT + PT @ 3.96 EUtest 4

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    Thank you RCO! What should i do next? Can i find out who my ancestors were?
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    Looking at the J1 project, out of the other members (I found a kit with 100% identical STR's to the ones you posted, so I'm assuming that's you) on there who've also had a SNP test with FTDNA, there are three matches with a GD of less than 10:

    One J-YSC0000235 kit with a GD of 7, one J-Z27682 kit with a GD of 7, and one J-YSC0000235 kit with a GD of 8.

    On YFull, all Portuguese J-P58 samples come under J-YSC0000234 (a subclade of J-YSC0000235).

    While I can't find any Portuguese J-Z27682 anywhere (I'm not a member of the J1 project, so some private samples there may exist, I have no idea), three South American samples (two on YFull and one on FTDNA) do come under that subclade. Considering South Americas history, it would make sense that these subclades entered that region from the Iberian peninsula.

    Overall, I think it's safe to say you come somewhere under J-YSC0000235, with J-YSC0000234 being the most likely subclade you come under.

    YSC0000235, YSC0000234 and Z27682 are SNP mutations, just like M267.
    YFull: YF72440 (FTDNA - IN41220)

    Ancestral Haplos (Punjabi Jatt):
    * Father: R2-M479 > M124 > V1180 > SK2142 > Y1379 > Y1383 > Y154920* (xZ6135) - M5a1a-G9064A (185G)
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-M343 > M269 > Z2103 > Z2109 > Y14416 > Y35099 > Y84821 - U7a3a-A9852G > G6150A > C15433T
    * MGMs MGF: R1a-M420 > M198 > Z93 > L657 > Y7 - ?

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    Thank you a lot aaronbee2010!

    My subclade is probably J-Z2313 like you said.

    One thing i cant understand. Nevgen says Im J1a2a1a2 P58. When i read genetic studies its always J1a2b P58 and J1a2a P56. How am I J1a2a and P58?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lppt View Post
    Thank you a lot aaronbee2010!

    My subclade is probably J-Z2313 like you said.

    One thing i cant understand. Nevgen says Im J1a2a1a2 P58. When i read genetic studies its always J1a2b P58 and J1a2a P56. How am I J1a2a and P58?!
    Genetic studies have been around for a long time. Y-DNA trees are updated somewhat often, so it makes sense that the trees some of these genetic studies use are now considered outdated.

    Looking at my case, M124 was first considered to come under P1 (it was considered the sister clade of Q-M242 and R-M207) then it was discovered that M124 actually was a descendant of R-M207 (it was assigned as R2). Eventually, the M479 mutation was discovered and found to come between M207 and M124, so M124 got reassigned to R2a, where its been ever since. Sorry that this example may not be completely relevant to you, but I thought it would give you a good idea of how SNP assignments change with time, and it's an example that I'm familiar with.

    The main thing to look at is the SNP itself, as that never changes. If I'm looking for my lineage in a study, it doesn't matter whether M124 is assigned to P1, R2 or R2a, I know that it's my lineage. The M124 SNP will always exist regardless of where it's found on a specific tree.

    In your case, all that matters is that it says you come under P58, regardless of whether it says J1a2b or J1a2a1a2.
    YFull: YF72440 (FTDNA - IN41220)

    Ancestral Haplos (Punjabi Jatt):
    * Father: R2-M479 > M124 > V1180 > SK2142 > Y1379 > Y1383 > Y154920* (xZ6135) - M5a1a-G9064A (185G)
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-M343 > M269 > Z2103 > Z2109 > Y14416 > Y35099 > Y84821 - U7a3a-A9852G > G6150A > C15433T
    * MGMs MGF: R1a-M420 > M198 > Z93 > L657 > Y7 - ?

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    Thank you once again aaronbee2010!

    I was searching through wikipedia and saw this:

    "YCAII=22-22 and DYS388≥15" cluster

    Thats exactly me!

    YCAII=22-22 and DYS388=15

    What does it mean? My ancestor was probably a jew or a phoenician, right?
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