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Thread: How should commercial DNA testing break down Italy, Albania, and Greece references?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Sardinian (Sardegna) IS Italian. its just a specific region, like Abruzzo or Tuscano are specific regions.
    Sardinians are outliners of South Europe and Europe as a whole. They don't overlap with other Europeans.

    Bottleneck effect like in Finnic and Basque people.

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    1. 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93

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    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24
    9. 60.6% Norwegian + 39.4% N_Italian @ 3.32

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Sardinians are outliners of South Europe and Europe as a whole. They don't overlap with other Europeans.

    Bottleneck effect like in Finnic and Basque people.

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    If my known trace Euro ancestry is Spanish..what exactly would the Sardinian found in my Myheritage results below mean do you think?:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Since South Italians and Greece are quite similar I understand that some companies put these together.
    But for Central and North Italians that does not make much sense.
    It doesn't make sense for mainland Greeks, with their Slavic input, to be grouped in with southern Italians at all. It makes sense for them to be grouped with Albanians.

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    'Sardinians' are around a 1/3 Northwestern + 1/3 Southeastern + 1/3 Southwestern DNA on the Dodecad Euro7 calc:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    I noticed that now.
    But still they mess up Italian dna. My father scores 18,4% Sardinian and zero Italian on Myheritage for example.
    This is that of my niece (I'm on the left):

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    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
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    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimanto View Post
    This is that of my niece (I'm on the left):

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    wow, such differences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    what about Tuscan ? Doesnt it behave separately ?
    This is what LivingDNA says about it:

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    I would love to know if anyone agrees/disagrees with this, LivingDNA give me 4.9% Tuscany when I have no Italian ancestry at all.
    Y DNA E-V13>Z5018>S2979>Z16659>S2972* John Saunders unknown birthdate, died 1840 in Kings Bromley, Staffordshire, England.
    MtDNA U5a2c3a Betty Hallissy b.1801 Passage West, Cork, Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackToTheForests View Post
    This is what LivingDNA says about it:

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    I would love to know if anyone agrees/disagrees with this, LivingDNA give me 4.9% Tuscany when I have no Italian ancestry at all.
    could be a great great grandparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    could be a great great grandparent.
    It's extremely unlikely bordering impossible based on my tree (backed up by matches).
    Y DNA E-V13>Z5018>S2979>Z16659>S2972* John Saunders unknown birthdate, died 1840 in Kings Bromley, Staffordshire, England.
    MtDNA U5a2c3a Betty Hallissy b.1801 Passage West, Cork, Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johane Derite View Post
    In the meantime though if they cannot differentiate between Albanians and Greeks autosomally, its unethical to label it "greek". It should be labelled South-East Europe or something.
    Unethical is your antigreek fanaticism

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