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    Who are the most West Eurasian shifted Indo-Aryan speakers?

    I see a lot of discussion about NW South Asian endogamous groups and their Steppe, Iran_N etc. etc.

    Just curious which group has highest 'West Eurasian' component - which is probably something like --> Sintashta + Indus + BMAC - all sorts of AASI.

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    I made these a while ago. South Asians stop around 83-84% West Eurasian. Khamboj would be most West Eurasian folks in India. Then they are followed by Punjabi Jatt, Rors/Haryana Jats, Khatris.
    For Pakistan probably some Pashtun groups are in the 90%+ range. Kalash and some Balochi clans are hanging out between 85-90%. Among the user samples here Jatt Sheron, I, and Aaronbee are probably the most West Eurasian. Among the SC Asians Surbakhun is the most West Eurasian.




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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    I made these a while ago. South Asians stop around 83-84% West Eurasian. Khamboj would be most West Eurasian folks in India. Then they are followed by Punjabi Jatt, Rors/Haryana Jats, Khatris.
    For Pakistan probably some Pashtun groups are in the 90%+ range. Kalash and some Balochi clans are hanging out between 85-90%. Among the user samples here Jatt Sheron, I, and Aaronbee are probably the most West Eurasian. Among the SC Asians Surbakhun is the most West Eurasian (among the samples I had).
    Ignoring the Iranian speakers, I guess you're saying Kalash are the most WE shifted? How do they compare to Kohistanis, any idea?

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    Man I should do my G25 coordinates to be included in this. Probably gonna score like agent_lime tbh. How much does this cost?

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    Kho and Kalash are pretty similar. It'll basically depend on the individual samples. Kho might be slightly more WE with the numbers I just ran.

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    Man I should do my G25 coordinates to be included in this. Probably gonna score like agent_lime tbh. How much does this cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    Kho and Kalash are pretty similar. It'll basically depend on the individual samples. Kho might be slightly more WE with the numbers I just ran.
    Yeah they're similar -- I was talking about Kohistanis though (not Kho).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Yeah they're similar -- I was talking about Kohistanis though (not Kho).
    I don't see their samples in G25. Sorry, I only have limited knowledge about Pakistani groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    I made these a while ago. South Asians stop around 83-84% West Eurasian. Khamboj would be most West Eurasian folks in India. Then they are followed by Punjabi Jatt, Rors/Haryana Jats, Khatris.
    For Pakistan probably some Pashtun groups are in the 90%+ range. Kalash and some Balochi clans are hanging out between 85-90%. Among the user samples here Jatt Sheron, I, and Aaronbee are probably the most West Eurasian. Among the SC Asians Surbakhun is the most West Eurasian.



    This looks like Balochi from the first chart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    This looks like Balochi from the first chart
    Excluding Iranian speakers.

    I guess the answer is either Kalash, Kho or Kohistani (all Dardic groups) -- need some Kohistani sample to see how they compare to others. Maybe Khana can help us out.

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    It's not kohistanis they're very similar to Khatris(slightly less steppic versions of them I think)
    "sample": "Test1:Kohistani",
    "fit": 4.1114,
    "Ror": 95.83,
    "Simulated_AASI_NW_by_DMXX": 4.17,

    Between Kalash and Kho, I'm not sure how to tell, the difference in distance from AASI bw them is minute
    Kalash
    "Simulated_AASI_NW_by_DMXX:NW_SiSBA3: 51.866138"
    Kho
    "Simulated_AASI_NW_by_DMXX:NW_SiSBA3: 50.89476"

    This could be due to difference in AASI levels or difference in other components.


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    Ror is the most W eurasian in India at least on G25
    "sample": "Test1:Kamboj",
    "fit": 3.5433,
    "Ror": 92.5,
    "Simulated_AASI_NW_by_DMXX": 7.5,

    "sample": "Test2:Khatri",
    "fit": 3.6962,
    "Ror": 95.83,
    "Simulated_AASI_NW_by_DMXX": 4.17,
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