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    Here's the results for myself and my brother, we don't have any known Jewish ancestry.

    Mine

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 68.89
    2 SW_Asia 22.96
    3 NW_Africa 6.97
    4 San 1.15

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Italian @ 6.695810
    2 Tuscan @ 9.502631
    3 Morocco_Jews @ 24.938517
    4 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 32.359764
    5 French_Basque @ 38.053848
    6 Druze @ 41.706371
    7 Jordanians @ 47.036575
    8 Egypt @ 51.950504
    9 Egyptans @ 54.511826
    10 North_African_Dodecad @ 58.173454
    11 Yemenese @ 59.685928
    12 Libya @ 60.632000
    13 Algeria @ 66.336189
    14 Bedouin @ 67.830772
    15 Morocco_N @ 68.802498
    16 Yemen_Jews @ 71.256851
    17 Saudis @ 76.461929
    18 Moroccans @ 77.186523
    19 Morocco_S @ 81.251656
    20 Ethiopian_Jews @ 82.514709

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +50% North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 4.205114


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% North_African_Jews_Dodecad +25% North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 4.205114


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++
    1 Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 2.901605
    2 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian @ 3.408354
    3 Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 3.492802
    4 Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.543582
    5 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 4.160402
    6 French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 4.205114
    7 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + Morocco_Jews @ 4.267607
    8 Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 4.337333
    9 French_Basque + Libya + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 4.590488
    10 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 4.758550
    11 Egyptans + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 4.896814
    12 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + Tuscan @ 4.960135
    13 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian @ 5.191799
    14 French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 5.278958
    15 French_Basque + Libya + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.321507
    16 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 5.359747
    17 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.400935
    18 French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Yemenese @ 5.416588
    19 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.435104
    20 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 5.481458


    My brother

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 67.17
    2 SW_Asia 25.57
    3 NW_Africa 5.79


    Finished reading population data. 54 populations found.
    9 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Italian @ 7.040187
    2 Tuscan @ 7.105986
    3 Morocco_Jews @ 22.172098
    4 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 29.424940
    5 Druze @ 38.470608
    6 French_Basque @ 40.772110
    7 Jordanians @ 43.922104
    8 Egypt @ 49.362217
    9 Egyptans @ 51.899719
    10 Yemenese @ 56.825050
    11 North_African_Dodecad @ 57.582676
    12 Libya @ 58.923191
    13 Bedouin @ 64.774269
    14 Algeria @ 65.872742
    15 Yemen_Jews @ 68.121147
    16 Morocco_N @ 68.717949
    17 Saudis @ 73.311752
    18 Moroccans @ 76.886101
    19 Ethiopian_Jews @ 80.881104
    20 Ethiopians @ 80.955635

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +50% Jordanians @ 4.896518


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% Jordanians +25% North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.706698


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++
    1 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian @ 1.052197
    2 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Morocco_Jews + Tuscan @ 1.752006
    3 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian @ 1.943002
    4 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.778556
    5 Egypt + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.960787
    6 Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.966645
    7 Bedouin + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 3.071384
    8 Morocco_Jews + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.221831
    9 Egyptans + French_Basque + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.232414
    10 Druze + Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 3.335231
    11 Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.342849
    12 French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + Tuscan @ 3.488421
    13 Egyptans + French_Basque + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.681544
    14 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 3.706698
    15 French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_African_Jews_Dodecad + North_Italian @ 3.752454
    16 Egypt + French_Basque + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 3.935239
    17 Druze + Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 4.078115
    18 French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews + Yemen_Jews @ 4.105875
    19 Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 4.160762
    20 Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque + Morocco_Jews @ 4.175485

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    Here's mine:


    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 64.33
    2 SW_Asia 24.16
    3 NW_Africa 9.47


    Finished reading population data. 54 populations found.
    9 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_Italian @ 11.445807
    2 Tuscan @ 11.670965
    3 Morocco_Jews @ 20.577534
    4 North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 28.239393
    5 Druze @ 38.466843
    6 French_Basque @ 42.862663
    7 Jordanians @ 43.202816
    8 Egypt @ 47.142956
    9 Egyptans @ 49.782524
    10 North_African_Dodecad @ 52.970825
    11 Libya @ 55.245914
    12 Yemenese @ 55.341816
    13 Algeria @ 61.189095
    14 Bedouin @ 63.786270
    15 Morocco_N @ 63.936737
    16 Yemen_Jews @ 67.509079
    17 Moroccans @ 72.141144
    18 Saudis @ 72.711273
    19 Morocco_S @ 76.363083
    20 Ethiopian_Jews @ 78.284958

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Egypt +50% French_Basque @ 5.103851


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% Jordanians +25% Libya @ 2.970643


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++
    1 French_Basque + Libya + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.622031
    2 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + Libya @ 1.918882
    3 French_Basque + Libya + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.327328
    4 French_Basque + Libya + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 2.348894
    5 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + Libya @ 2.970643
    6 French_Basque + French_Basque + Libya + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 2.985133
    7 French_Basque + North_African_Dodecad + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 3.525383
    8 French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Dodecad + Yemen_Jews @ 4.684060
    9 French_Basque + French_Basque + Libya + Morocco_Jews @ 4.697447
    10 North_African_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 4.699044
    11 Druze + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Dodecad @ 4.747722
    12 French_Basque + French_Basque + Jordanians + North_African_Dodecad @ 4.780869
    13 Algeria + French_Basque + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.877610
    14 Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 5.063148
    15 French_Basque + North_African_Dodecad + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.094761
    16 Egypt + Egypt + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 5.103851
    17 Egyptans + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Jews_Dodecad @ 5.252933
    18 Bedouin + French_Basque + French_Basque + North_African_Dodecad @ 5.385850
    19 French_Basque + Libya + Morocco_Jews + North_Italian @ 5.425492
    20 North_African_Dodecad + North_Italian + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 5.560444


    I'm a generic white guy from the US... so yeah I wouldn't read too much into this.
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    23andMe (V5 Beta - 90% Confidence): 66.6% Broadly NW European, 11.2% British & Irish, 0.6% French & German, 16.5% Broadly European, 0.2% Senegambian & Guinean, 0.2% Broadly SSA, 4.7% Unassigned

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    I definitely wouldn't judge by GEDmatch calculators alone. However, if you have Iberian ancestry going back several centuries in the Philippines, it's likely that at least a few of your distant ancestors were conversos or anusim (marrano is a common, but pejorative term), since conversos were widely involved in the trade networks linking the Philippines to Mexico (the Manila galleon trade) as well as to the Portuguese-controlled ports of Asia (Nagasaki, Macau, etc.).

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    Yeah maybe at least one person as my ancestors were Jewish. Interesting have to read more about conversos or anusim. I've heard that if a Filipino can trace Sephardic ancestry, they are granted Spanish citizenship. I wouldn't say no it and it's a passing thought, but I'm not like, very determined but if the opportunity presents itself, maybe. I wouldn't know how to begin to research that and i can imagine most of my relative i would ask would be like "hmm?" They'd have no clue. But it's fun to think about. Honestly I have recently started watching some Israeli films and tv shows since I love film and foreign film in general. I've picked up some Hebrew words and thought to myself, wouldn't it be cool to be even just a tad Jewish or have a drop of it in my DNA?" my mom's not Jewish so I could never be Jewish by that criteria. lol Anyways, I pressed Oracle rather than Oracle 4. and I'll share it. Don't know if it really means anything but fun to think about what if maybe? I would think that maybe everyone has some Jewish DNA. i do have some Red Sea numbers the popped up and Western Semitic is elevated but again don't know if that means anything. I do probably have Arabic genes too since i don't know too much but Iran has conquered Philippines before. And think that's related to one of the Islands of Mindanao being a predominantly Muslim Island. Persian DNA has shown in my brother's Ancestry DNA but not mine on 23 and me. i think companies like Ancestry or 23 and me, I would think what would show up is most recent or the most amount of Genetic markers most likely vs. Gedmatch where there is a breakdown.



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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 37.33
    2 SW_Asia 27.66
    3 W_Africa 13.7
    4 E_Africa 7.92
    5 S_Africa 6.03
    6 NW_Africa 5.73
    7 San 1.26
    8 Mbuti 0.38

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Morocco_Jews 23.49
    2 North_African_Jews (Dodecad) 24.94
    3 Egypt 28.47
    4 Egyptans 30.21
    5 Jordanians 31.52
    6 Druze 32.65
    7 Yemenese 34.11
    8 Libya 36.67
    9 Tuscan 38.2
    10 North_African (Dodecad) 40.65
    11 North_Italian 42.05
    12 Algeria 47.59
    13 Bedouin 48.24
    14 Ethiopians 53.35
    15 Ethiopian_Jews 53.45
    16 Morocco_N 54.25
    17 East_African (Dodecad) 54.32
    18 Yemen_Jews 54.41
    19 Moroccans 58.44
    20 Saudis 58.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.4% Morocco_Jews + 27.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 3.07
    2 72.5% Morocco_Jews + 27.5% Luhya @ 3.38
    3 75.5% Morocco_Jews + 24.5% Mada @ 6.32
    4 75.1% Morocco_Jews + 24.9% Bulala @ 6.94
    5 76.2% Morocco_Jews + 23.8% Kaba @ 7.43
    6 71.9% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 28.1% Bantu_N.E. @ 7.45
    7 75.5% Morocco_Jews + 24.5% Kongo @ 7.48
    8 71.9% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 28.1% Luhya @ 7.62
    9 75.1% Morocco_Jews + 24.9% Fang @ 7.84
    10 76% Morocco_Jews + 24% Bamoun @ 8.07
    11 77.1% Morocco_Jews + 22.9% Hausa @ 8.57
    12 77.5% Morocco_Jews + 22.5% Igbo @ 8.98
    13 77.8% Morocco_Jews + 22.2% Yoruba @ 9.03
    14 75% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 25% Mada @ 9.32
    15 78.3% Morocco_Jews + 21.7% Brong @ 9.87
    16 75.6% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 24.4% Kaba @ 10
    17 74.7% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 25.3% Bulala @ 10.01
    18 74.9% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 25.1% Kongo @ 10.07
    19 74.5% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 25.5% Fang @ 10.35
    20 75.5% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 24.5% Bamoun @ 10.48
    Last edited by WhatAmI; 06-11-2019 at 05:41 AM.

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    The Africa9 works best with people of African heritage; I would not use it if you are of European or Asian heritage. I would use others such as Eurogenes K13 or Harappa.

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    Agreed Africa 9 is a really bad choice for Asians. This is one of my mother's matches from China.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Europe 39.68
    2 SW_Asia 35.71
    3 E_Africa 9.51
    4 W_Africa 7.95
    5 S_Africa 3.83
    6 Mbuti 2.31
    7 Biaka 1.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_African_Jews (Dodecad) 17.96
    2 Morocco_Jews 18.78
    3 Jordanians 22.92
    4 Druze 23.05
    5 Egypt 24.95
    6 Egyptans 26.42
    7 Yemenese 29.39
    8 Tuscan 34.7
    9 Libya 39.64
    10 North_Italian 39.99
    11 Bedouin 41.64
    12 Yemen_Jews 47.05
    13 North_African (Dodecad) 47.27
    14 Saudis 51.84
    15 Ethiopian_Jews 54.06
    16 Ethiopians 54.21
    17 East_African (Dodecad) 54.99
    18 Algeria 55.03
    19 Morocco_N 61.69
    20 Maasai 65.35

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.4% Yemenese + 27.6% French_Basque @ 6.86
    2 81.3% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 18.7% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.46
    3 81.4% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 18.6% Luhya @ 8.68
    4 82.6% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 17.4% Bulala @ 8.73
    5 58.3% Yemenese + 41.7% North_Italian @ 9.41
    6 83.6% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 16.4% Mada @ 9.65
    7 81.2% Morocco_Jews + 18.8% Bantu_N.E. @ 9.96
    8 82.4% Morocco_Jews + 17.6% Bulala @ 10.06
    9 81.3% Morocco_Jews + 18.7% Luhya @ 10.14
    10 80.5% Morocco_Jews + 19.5% Maasai @ 10.34
    11 81.5% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 18.5% Maasai @ 10.37
    12 54.6% Yemenese + 45.4% Tuscan @ 10.42
    13 84.6% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 15.4% Kaba @ 10.66
    14 75.5% Egyptans + 24.5% French_Basque @ 10.67
    15 82.9% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 17.1% HADZA @ 10.77
    16 82.7% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 17.3% SANDAWE @ 10.81
    17 77.1% Druze + 22.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 10.9
    18 84.3% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 15.7% Kongo @ 10.93
    19 84% North_African_Jews (Dodecad) + 16% Fang @ 10.96
    20 83.6% Morocco_Jews + 16.4% Mada @ 11.07


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Asian 72.6
    2 Siberian 24.86
    3 Oceanian 1.02
    4 Red_Sea 0.9
    5 West_Med 0.62

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Yizu 4.05
    2 Naxi 4.52
    3 Japanese 9.91
    4 Tujia 11.82
    5 Tu 12.15
    6 Miaozu 14.63
    7 She 16.56
    8 Lahu 18.58
    9 Xibo 23.01
    10 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 23.42
    11 Hezhen 24.52
    12 Vietnamese 25.09
    13 Cambodian 28.43
    14 Malay 29.97
    15 Dai 30.23
    16 Mongolian 49.56
    17 Kirgiz 52.96
    18 Uygur 54.12
    19 Kazakh 55
    20 Hazara 57.81

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.8% Tujia + 13.2% Yakut @ 1.27
    2 87.7% Tujia + 12.3% Evenki @ 1.28
    3 88% Tujia + 12% Evens @ 1.28
    4 67.6% Tujia + 32.4% Hezhen @ 1.32
    5 84.8% Tujia + 15.2% Oroqen @ 1.33
    6 54.5% Japanese + 45.5% Tujia @ 1.38
    7 66.2% Tujia + 33.8% Xibo @ 1.41
    8 59.8% Japanese + 40.2% Miaozu @ 1.41
    9 81.8% Miaozu + 18.2% Oroqen @ 1.42
    10 62.7% Japanese + 37.3% She @ 1.5
    11 62.7% Miaozu + 37.3% Hezhen @ 1.54
    12 83.5% She + 16.5% Evenki @ 1.58
    13 59.8% She + 40.2% Hezhen @ 1.58
    14 83.9% She + 16.1% Evens @ 1.6
    15 82.5% She + 17.5% Yakut @ 1.6
    16 58.2% She + 41.8% Xibo @ 1.67
    17 61.2% Miaozu + 38.8% Xibo @ 1.7
    18 85.5% Miaozu + 14.5% Evens @ 1.71
    19 79.9% She + 20.1% Oroqen @ 1.73
    20 85.2% Miaozu + 14.8% Evenki @ 1.73
    Ethnogene: 51.4% NW European, 21.6% W European, 10.1% Southeastern African, 9.5% Southeast Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2% Scandinavian, 1% East African
    Papertrail: 75% NW European, 25% Mauritian Creole

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