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    Quote Originally Posted by miremont View Post
    Though I hate to admit it, I have given up on finding out more about my Jewish ancestors at this point. The only hint I have is that they came to the Netherlands from Berlin. Not much to go on, unfortunately.
    Western Ashkenazim are much easier to trace than Eastern Ashkenazim, especially those from the Russian Empire

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    Here is a Russian language resource - probably the largest free surname resource I know of: https://toldot.ru/life/lnames/a/#alphabet-search

    It has many Jewish surnames from the Russian Empire. However, you'll need a Russian-speaking friend, as google translate won't be sufficient, and you'll need to know how your surname varies across Yiddish dialects. The site merely offers explanations for the surnames, as opposed to locations. Many are taken from Beider's book.

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    Here are some sites I've used for Moroccan genealogy.

    Jewish cemeteries:
    http://www.cimetierejuifcasablanca.com/site/
    http://www.cimetierejuifmarrakech.com/
    http://www.cimetierejuifessaouira.com/
    http://www.cementeriojudiotetuan.org/

    https://www.judaisme-marocain.org/ -> This website has some nice photos, scans and other artefacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillWater View Post
    Here is a Russian language resource - probably the largest free surname resource I know of: https://toldot.ru/life/lnames/a/#alphabet-search

    It has many Jewish surnames from the Russian Empire. However, you'll need a Russian-speaking friend, as google translate won't be sufficient, and you'll need to know how your surname varies across Yiddish dialects. The site merely offers explanations for the surnames, as opposed to locations. Many are taken from Beider's book.
    Could not find my great-grandmother's family name for example.

    There are also photos of Jewish cemeteries. Found photo of my grandfather's grave (I knew before where his grave is, just made a search and it was found). But the graves are mostly recent.
    But this resourse will not give you info that will help to find someone.

    Generally I would say there is the only way to get info on your Russian Empire ancestors - write to archives a mail (not e-mail, old-style mail), or come there by foot and search for info there. Or probably hire someone who will do this for you. Because almost nothing is online, and in Ukraine and Belarus the situation is worse than in Russia itself.

    If you only know city, name, family name and hopefully date of birth - that's good for the start. And also care about second name. Russians alsways have only one given name, but everyone has a patronimic (name of father + special suffix). When we get outside we usually fill in patronimic as a second name (in Russian patronimic is called "otchestvo" отчество). So patronimic will also give you name of one more ancestor. Patronimic is very important, because traditional formal way to call someone higher in hyerarchy, or in some official situation is to call him by both name and patronimic. So in all official documents you will always find patronimic also.

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    Has anyone had any luck finding data online for people born in Latvia and/or Lithuania before 1800?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loxias View Post
    Has anyone had any luck finding data online for people born in Latvia and/or Lithuania before 1800?
    I haven't seen Grand Duchy censuses uploaded online, though I've looked for them too. They have been (partially) translated though. Best bet is to join one of the projects and get someone to email you a relevant document: https://www.litvaksig.org/research/g...lithuania-gdl/

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemv View Post
    Could not find my great-grandmother's family name for example.

    There are also photos of Jewish cemeteries. Found photo of my grandfather's grave (I knew before where his grave is, just made a search and it was found). But the graves are mostly recent.
    But this resourse will not give you info that will help to find someone.

    Generally I would say there is the only way to get info on your Russian Empire ancestors - write to archives a mail (not e-mail, old-style mail), or come there by foot and search for info there. Or probably hire someone who will do this for you. Because almost nothing is online, and in Ukraine and Belarus the situation is worse than in Russia itself.

    If you only know city, name, family name and hopefully date of birth - that's good for the start. And also care about second name. Russians alsways have only one given name, but everyone has a patronimic (name of father + special suffix). When we get outside we usually fill in patronimic as a second name (in Russian patronimic is called "otchestvo" отчество). So patronimic will also give you name of one more ancestor. Patronimic is very important, because traditional formal way to call someone higher in hyerarchy, or in some official situation is to call him by both name and patronimic. So in all official documents you will always find patronimic also.
    It's not perfect, but it has 7 of 8 of my great-grandparents' surnames, only a couple of which can be considered common.

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    Does anyone know if everyone with the 3 Litvak communities gets this map on Ancestry or is this specific to me?



    The one featured here is different, but it's form 2017: http://whitmanic.com/litvak-galitzianer/
    Last edited by StillWater; 07-05-2019 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillWater View Post
    Does anyone know if everyone with the 3 Litvak communities gets this map on Ancestry or is this specific to me?



    The one featured here is different, but it's form 2017: http://whitmanic.com/litvak-galitzianer/
    Do you get all 3 of them? (I haven't done Ancestry, btw, but I'm hella curious about which Litvak and non-Litvak communities I'd get.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hartaisarlag View Post
    Do you get all 3 of them? (I haven't done Ancestry, btw, but I'm hella curious about which Litvak and non-Litvak communities I'd get.)
    All 3.

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