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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endovelicus View Post
    Ruderico, o que aparece em primeiro lugar nos teus resultados (excluindo os Açores)?

    Azores
    Madeira
    Aveiro District
    Setubal
    Coimbra District
    Lisbon
    Porto District
    Braga


    O problema é que supostamente isto é para saberes de onde os teus antepassados de há 250 anos eram. Eu não preciso disso porque estive a estudar a minha genealogia e sei que era 75% do distrito de Viseu e 25% do Porto...mas como podes ver os meus resultados deles estão todos ao lado. Só tenho 2 antepassados conhecidos do distrito e Aveiro por volta de 1700/1750, e mesmo esses são de Castelo de Paiva e do noroeste da Feira, ambos na fronteira com o distrito do Porto.
    Acho que o sistema se baseia no local de origem reportado dos avós de cada um dos teus matches, daí que os Açores aparecam em primeiro - o 23andme tem imensos Americanos, é tudo Luso-descendentes com origens nas ilhas
    Last edited by Ruderico; 06-26-2019 at 02:28 PM.
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>E-Y134097>E-Y168273 (probably Scythian-Sarmatian). Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content
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    [1] "distance%=1.7726"

    Ruderico

    Celtiberian,77.6
    Roman_Imperial_proxy,13.6
    Guanche,8.8

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  3. #12
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    Há uns tempos fiz uma pequena sondagem num grupo do FB sobre isto.

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    A amostra é irrisória mas o resultado está razoavelmente de acordo com isto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxavierflima View Post
    Há uns tempos fiz uma pequena sondagem num grupo do FB sobre isto.

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    A amostra é irrisória mas o resultado está razoavelmente de acordo com isto.
    Está mais ou menos de acordo com a realidade. O haplogrupo J2 e I é mais comum que o E3b no entanto.
    R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusitano View Post
    Está mais ou menos de acordo com a realidade. O haplogrupo J2 e I é mais comum que o E3b no entanto.
    É? Não segundo a eupedia...

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    O meu:

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    O único zé ibérico ali no meio até ao momento.

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    North

    Viana do Castelo, VC (n=59)

    H - 0.695
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 1.7
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) - 3.4
    E3b1a - 0
    E3b1b - 6.8
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 5.1
    I*(xI1b2) - 8.5
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.4
    J2* - 15.3
    K2 - 1.7
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 52.5
    R1b3f - 1.7


    Braga, B(n=50)

    H - 0.705
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 2.0a
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) - 0
    E3b1a - 2.0
    E3b1b - 5.9
    E3b1c* - 2.0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 7.8
    I*(xI1b2) - 15.7
    I1b2 - 2.0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.9
    J2* - 0
    K2 - 3.9
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 3.9
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 51.0
    R1b3f - 0


    Porto, P (n=118)

    H - 0.652
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 4.2
    E3b1b - 6.8
    E3b1c* - 1.7
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 5.9
    I*(xI1b2) - 3.4
    I1b2 - 0.9
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.4
    J2* - 8.5
    K2 - 2.5
    L* - 0.9
    R1a* - 1.7
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 57.6
    R1b3f - 2.5

    Bragança(n=25)

    H - 0.590
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 4.0
    E3b1b - 4.0
    E3b1c* - 4.0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 4.0
    I*(xI1b2) - 12.0
    I1b2 - 4.0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 4.0
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 64.0
    R1b3f - 0


    Vila Real(n=39)

    H - 0.673
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 2.6
    E3b1b - 2.6
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 2.6
    I*(xI1b2) - 7.7
    I1b2 - 5.1
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 7.7
    K2 - 7.7
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 5.1
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 56.4
    R1b3f - 2.6

    Center

    Aveiro, Av (n=66)

    H - 0.626
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 4.6
    E3b1b - 3.0
    E3b1c* - 3.0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 3.0
    I*(xI1b2) - 3.0
    I1b2 - 1.5
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 6.1
    J2* - 4.6
    K2 - 6.1
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 1.5
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 60.7
    R1b3f - 3.0


    Viseu, Vi (n=30)

    H - 0.547
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 0
    E3b1b - 13.3
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 0
    I*(xI1b2) - 3.3
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 6.7
    K2 - 3.3
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 3.3
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 66.7
    R1b3f - 3.3


    Coimbra, Co (n=20)

    H - 0.742
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -5.0
    E3b1a - 0
    E3b1b - 0
    E3b1c* - 5.0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 5.0
    I*(xI1b2) - 5.0
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 15.0
    J2* - 10.0
    K2 - 0
    L* - 5.0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 50.0
    R1b3f - 0


    Guarda, Gu (n=30)

    H - 0.708
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 10.0
    E3b1b - 3.3
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 3.3
    G* - 10.0
    I*(xI1b2) - 0
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.3
    J2* - 6.7
    K2 - 3.3
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 3.3
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 53.3
    R1b3f - 3.3


    Castelo Branco, CB (n=28)

    H - 0.489
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 3.6
    E3b1b - 7.1
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 7.1
    I*(xI1b2) - 7.1
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 0
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 71.4
    R1b3f - 3.6


    Leiria, Le (n=35)

    H - 0.629
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -2.9
    E3b1a - 5.7
    E3b1b - 5.7
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 8.6
    I*(xI1b2) - 11.4
    I1b2 - 2.9
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 0
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 60
    R1b3f - 2.9


    Santarém, Sa (n=8)

    H - 0.821
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 25.0
    E3b1b - 0
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 0
    I*(xI1b2) - 0
    I1b2 - 12.5
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 25.0
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 37.5
    R1b3f - 0


    Portalegre, Po (n=28)

    H - 0.759
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 14.3
    E3b1b - 10.7
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 3.6
    I*(xI1b2) - 7.1
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.6
    J2* - 14.3
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 44.8
    R1b3f - 0

    South

    Lisboa, Li (n=35)

    H - 0.692
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -2.9
    E3b1a - 2.9
    E3b1b - 11.4
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 5.7
    I*(xI1b2) - 2.9
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 8.6
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 5.7
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 54.3
    R1b3f - 5.7


    Setúbal, Se (n=27)

    H - 0.402
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 3.7
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -3.7
    E3b1a - 3.7
    E3b1b - 0
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 3.7
    I*(xI1b2) - 0
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 3.7
    J2* - 3.7
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 77.8
    R1b3f - 0

    Évora, Ev (n=29)

    H - 0.805
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 6.9
    E3b1b - 3.5
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 13.8
    I*(xI1b2) - 10.3
    I1b2 - 3.5
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 10.4
    J2* - 3.5
    K2 - 3.5
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 41.4
    R1b3f - 3.5


    Beja, Be (n=8)

    H - 0.893
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 12.5
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 0
    E3b1b - 12.5
    E3b1c* - 12.5
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 0
    I*(xI1b2) - 0
    I1b2 - 12.5
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 0
    J2* - 12.5
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 37.5
    R1b3f - 0

    Faro, Fa (n=21)

    H - 0.424
    E*(xE3a,b1) - 0
    E3a* - 0
    E3b1*(xE3b1-c) -0
    E3b1a - 0
    E3b1b - 0
    E3b1c* - 0
    F*(xGIJK) - 0
    G* - 4.8
    I*(xI1b2) - 4.8
    I1b2 - 0
    J*(xJ1d,2) - 4.8
    J2* - 9.5
    K2 - 0
    L* - 0
    R1a* - 0
    R1b3*(xR1b3f) - 76.2
    R1b3f - 0

    Fonte: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16626329
    R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866

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  10. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxavierflima View Post
    É? Não segundo a eupedia...
    Tinha ideia que sim mas parece que não. No entanto varia consoante a região.
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    United States of America Germany Italy Azores Slovakia Hawaii
    I'm one of those Americans with Azorean ancestry, my great grandfather was pure blooded. Both his halogroups I can trace back to São Miguel in the 18th Century. His Y chromosome was E-V13 and his MTDNA is N1b1. I have tested strings for the Y chromosome and am saving up for the Big Y but sadly don't own the mtdna which was done through 23andme. Other than general interest though neither lineage seems particularly interesting yet.
    Daughter's ggg grandparents(father to left, mother to right)
    Male: R-BY4242, R-Z344, ?, ?, E-V13, ?, E-L29, ?, R-Z20907, ?, ?, ?, R-L2, R-L20, ?, ?
    Female: ?, ?, H3g, ?, ?, ?, ?, W6a, ?, N1b1, ?, B4a1a1, ?, ?, ?, H3h, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, I3a, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, K1c1g

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  13. #19
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    Suebi Kingdom Portugal 1143 Portugal 1485 Portugal Order of Christ Brazilian Empire Brazil
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
    mtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal

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    Maiores linhagens em termos de idade ou essas são as mais prevalecentes entre as samples Portuguesas do YFull?
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