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Thread: Are there updated G25 modern scaled and unscaled spreadsheets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    I would love to see Danish and northern German samples being added to the sheet, as without them western Norwegians come out as Icelandic, Irish and Dutch etc...
    Agree. More Scandinavian samples would be nice. Swedish Saami also.
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    I'd also like to see a larger number of Welsh samples as I think 3 might not be exactly representative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    I'd also like to see a larger number of Welsh samples as I think 3 might not be exactly representative.
    Half a dozen, from close to the four corners with a couple in the centre would make a basic start. For selfish reasons among others, I'd like these to include the old Breconshire region because it's on the border but was largely Welsh speaking until recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    I'd also like to see a larger number of Welsh samples as I think 3 might not be exactly representative.
    Same with the Norwegian samples, I think they are all eastern Norwegians, so basically they are closer to Swedes than to western and northern Norwegians..

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    [1] "distance%=1.3601"

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    Icelandic,18.6
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    Dusun,0.4
    English_Cornwall,0.4
    Igorot,0.4
    Ju_hoan_North,0.2


    Ancient pen=0

    [1] "distance%=1.2899"

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    England_EMBA,31
    Wales_CA_EBA,27.8
    Iberia_North_IA,16.6
    FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o,10.4
    England_Saxon,6.6
    KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1,3.6
    USA_colonial_period,1
    Iberia_Southwest_EN,0.8
    Scotland_LBA,0.8
    VUT_2900BP_all,0.6
    Levant_Natufian,0.4
    SWE_IA,0.4
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    More Italian samples if possible. The K36 Online tool got much more than G25.
    Would be nice with Swiss Italian, Piemonte etc.
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    I'd like to see more Icelandic samples that are not so British and Irish .
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    I'd like to see more Icelandic samples that are not so British and Irish .
    Icelanders are fairly homogeneous, so they are very similar to each other, but the likely reason that they come off as British-Irish is probably because of a lack of G25 samples from other Scandinavian countries. I had this argument with a guy who ran my grandmothers G25 numbers through his database, she always came out as Irish, Icelandic or Dutch, and regardless of how illogical that outcome was he stuck to his guns.. I dont know why David didn't include Danes (Icelanders are far less useful as they are an Island population that has contributed very little to the wider European genepool, while Danes have contributed allot, especially to UK and also likely northern France), but my guess is that it shatters some of the perceived "harmony" of G25..

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    "distance%=1.7303"

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    Levant_LBN_MA_Euro,21.2
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    "distance%=1.4812"

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    HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ38,16.4
    Bell_Beaker_Bavaria_I5529,8
    Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_I0113,5.6
    HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ14,5
    HUN_MA_Szolad_SZ23,4.4
    Iberia_Central_CA_Stp_EHU001,4.4
    Levant_LBN_MA_Euro_SI-47,4
    Bell_Beaker_Bavaria_I6590,3.8
    Bell_Beaker_FRA_C_I3874,3.8
    England_IA_I0160,3.8
    Scotland_LBA_I2859,3.4
    England_Saxon_I0159,2.8
    Scotland_LBA_I3130,2.8
    Bell_Beaker_Bavaria_I6624,2.6
    CZE_EBA_I7196,2.2
    Bell_Beaker_England_I1767,1.6
    England_MBA_I7577,1.6
    Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale_I1549,1.2
    England_IA_M1489,1

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