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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    On paper vs old vs new.

    They are missing the mark on the French/German by a significant amount.

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    wow, what you are on paper vs. old or new they seemed to have the numbers a bit jacked up. I was considering using 23 and Me for a second DNA test. I wanted to compare it to my 1st cousin's Ancestry results. our only differences is our mothers (mine German/Scottish and hers Irish/Scandinavian). I think I will hold off on the 23 and Me test for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    On paper vs old vs new.

    They are missing the mark on the French/German by a significant amount.

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    Overall very good considering overlapping populations and similarities etc. Has anyone done a better job for you?
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Overall very good considering overlapping populations and similarities etc. Has anyone done a better job for you?
    nope. 23 and Me is the only test to pick out teh Scandinavian. Regionally My Heritage is a bit closer to "on paper" but they dont do very well at the details. They have me at basically 70% NW Euro, 30% SE Euro.
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    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    wow, what you are on paper vs. old or new they seemed to have the numbers a bit jacked up. I was considering using 23 and Me for a second DNA test. I wanted to compare it to my 1st cousin's Ancestry results. our only differences is our mothers (mine German/Scottish and hers Irish/Scandinavian). I think I will hold off on the 23 and Me test for now.
    its actually the closest to reality among all the tests I have done.
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8


    E-V13 => E-PH1246 => E-BY14160
    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    Not to mention genetic ancestry inheritance isn't deterministic like that. https://thegeneticgenealogist.com/20...ed-cm-project/ gives observed 99th percentile for great-grandparents as up to 21% with higher values seen, so the result is entirely possible even without assuming there's an error somewhere. The ancestry analysis also extends further back in time than great grandparents, and while everybody without fault swears by the quality of their paper-trail, having absolute certainty of the ancestry of say 8th previous generations is just not realistically possible yet. Some of them may have been immigrants from different region than assumed, and probably a few undocumented non-paternity events.

    Of course, the more important point is still that the ancestry estimates are changing at all. Of course, if we didn't allow or expect this things could never improve. It can be conceptualized as the time-horizon of the analysis changing, as well as the borders of the imaginary countries the populations are being mapped to (Because the European borders have changed many times over during the time-period of interest; indeed Germany didn't have modern-day like borders until the Weimar Republic in 1918). Naturally it's more complicated than that, but in many senses it's true.

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    So mine barely changed, and is quite consistent. I also have an Ancestry upload.

    New version:

    NW European (total): 96.6
    English/Irish: 42 (highly likely UK, possible Ireland)
    French/German: 22.7 (German)
    Scandinavian: 11.3 (Sweden)
    Finnish: 0.4
    Broadly NW Euro: 20.2
    Broadly Southern Euro: 1.4
    Broadly Euro: 1.4
    Senegambian, etc.: 0.2
    Broadly W Asian/N African: 0.1

    Old:

    NW European (total): 96
    English/Irish: 48.5 (UK, possible Ireland)
    French/German: 18.5 (German)
    Scandinavian: 11 (Sweden)
    Finnish: 0.4
    Broadly NW Euro: 17.7
    Broadly Southern Euro: 2.6
    Broadly Euro: 1.1
    Senegambian, etc.: 0.2
    Broadly W Asian: 0

    Ancestry upload:

    NW European (total): 97.7
    English/Irish: 44.4 (UK, possible Ireland)
    French/German: 27.1 (Germany, possible France)
    Scandinavian: 8 (Sweden)
    Finnish: 0.4
    Broadly NW Euro: 17.9
    Southern Euro: 2
    Broadly Euro: 0.1
    Senegambian, etc.: 0.2
    Broadly W Asian: 0

    On paper (very rough, rounding):

    England/Wales: 55-60%
    Ireland (Northern): used to think 12.5%, now I think more of that is English than I used to, so maybe 10%
    French: 3%
    German/Swiss: 15-20%
    Sweden: 12% (g-grandparent, they pegged the exact location too)
    Finnish: unknown
    Southern Euro: unknown
    Senegambian, etc.: unknown but not impossible
    Broadly W Asian/N African: unknown

    It's not uncommon for me to get W Asian on other tests, like Gedmatch, My Heritage, LivingDNA, and I used to have it on Ancestry. I think it's just a remnant thing. 23andMe is the only one I get SSA on, and it's probably too little to take seriously but it's interesting.

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    ~10% of my SEA moved onto Sudan. Don’t even know why they have this SEA(Southern East African) cluster. They should split it into, say, Eastern Bantu and Eastern HGs

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    I wonder when those of us on the V4 chip will receive the update?? :-)

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