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    I want to run an ancient Nordic/Scandinavian model in R

    What populations should I use?
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    What do you want to achieve? What period?
    Only Scandinavian samples will not you take anywhere.

    If you use also neighboring populations around Scandinavia in the model, then you will not get much percentage from ancient Scandinavian populations.
     
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    ^ Thanks for your reply. I basically want to see how much ancient Nordic/Scandinavian I get. I know that using just Nordic/Scandinavian samples will not be good enough. I know there has to be some non Nordic/Scandinavian samples , but I am at a loss as to what to use. I am not sure what would be a good time period to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    ^ Thanks for your reply. I basically want to see how much ancient Nordic/Scandinavian I get. I know that using just Nordic/Scandinavian samples will not be good enough. I know there has to be some non Nordic/Scandinavian samples , but I am at a loss as to what to use. I am not sure what would be a good time period to use.
    If you want to know how much Scandinavian you have than Medieval period would be the best. There were already several Medieval calcs.
    From 2000 BC to 500 CE we don't have in G25 not even one sample from Scandinavia.
    Only what you can test is period from neolithic to 2000 BC.
    From period of 2000 BC to 3000 BC the Beakers will eat all your percentages, except about 5% which you will get from Battle Axe Sweden.
    From neolithic, there were already several calculators (my basic).
    So you will not learn anything new, I think.
     
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    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143 ,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.00207 7,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000 377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_grt035,0.130897,0.13608 1,0.07203,0.047158,0.036622,0.019801,0.00188,0.004 154,0.009613,-0.000547,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.011893,-0.01101,0.022937,0.002387,-0.001695,0.004561,-0.004651,0,0.006364,0.002473,0.001972,0.007109,0.0 02036
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_grt036,0.132035,0.13303 4,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.0119 99,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.11881 7,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.01 2692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015 608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.00879 6,-0.002275
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.09444 4,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.0 15922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006 378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_kls001,0.125205,0.12084 8,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.01 9153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.13811 2,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006 183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_stg020,0.126344,0.11678 6,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.01315 3,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_stg021,0.125205,0.12287 9,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.00 3461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009 461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005 068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_urm035,0.117238,0.12694 1,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.01 5692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.010 17,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0. 002588,0.016026,-0.002515
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_urm160,0.125205,0.12186 4,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.01 6615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.01225 6,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003 113


    which is probably crap ,but I was very unsure what to use.
    Scaled results were:


    Tim_G_scaled

    England_Saxon_NO3423,25.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL84,23.6
    DEU_MA_ALH_10,12.6
    England_Saxon_I0159,10.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL92,8.6
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_nuf002,6.8
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_stg021,3.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL151,3.2
    DEU_MA_ALH_3,2.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL23,0.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL36,0.8
    DEU_MA_ACD_AED_1108,0.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL57,0.4
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_228,0.2
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_328,0.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL121,0.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL63,0.2


    [1] "distance%=1.5117"

    Tim_G_father_scaled

    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL83,24.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL92,24.2
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_nuf002,12.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL84,9.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL151,8.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL145,6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL87,3
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL63,2.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL93,2.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL57,1.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL23,1
    DEU_MA_STR_480,0.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL121,0.6
    DEU_MA_ACD_NW_54,0.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL102,0.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL53,0.4
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_228,0.2
    DEU_MA_o_STR_300,0.2
    DEU_MA_STR_486,0.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL36,0.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL47,0.2

    [1] "distance%=2.4372"

    Tim_Mother_test_Scaled

    England_Saxon_NO3423,46
    DEU_MA_ALH_10,13
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_stg021,12.4
    DEU_MA_ALH_3,8.4
    DEU_MA_ALH_1,7
    England_Saxon_I0159,3
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355,2.8
    DEU_MA_STR_316,2.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL84,2
    DEU_MA_ACD_AED_1108,1.6
    England_Saxon_I0777,0.8
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_328,0.2
    England_Saxon_I0161,0.2
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    If you want to know how much Scandinavian you have than Medieval period would be the best. There were already several Medieval calcs.
    From 2000 BC to 500 CE we don't have in G25 not even one sample from Scandinavia.
    Only what you can test is period from neolithic to 2000 BC.
    From period of 2000 BC to 3000 BC the Beakers will eat all your percentages, except about 5% which you will get from Battle Axe Sweden.
    From neolithic, there were already several calculators (my basic).
    So you will not learn anything new, I think.

    Well, I 've tried your latest Roman-medieval calculator with R.


    [1] "distance%=0.9026"

    Tim_G

    CELTIC,37
    GERMANIC,24.8
    LONGOBARD,19.8
    VIKING-WEST,7.2
    VIKING,6.2

    AQUITANIAN,2.2
    CELTIBERIAN,2
    LUSITANIAN,0.4
    EGYPT,0.2
    IBERIAN,0.2

    [1] "distance%=0.6712"

    Tim_G_father

    CELTIC,36.4
    LONGOBARD,31.8
    VIKING,13.8
    GERMANIC,6.6
    VIKING-WEST,4
    AQUITANIAN,2.4
    CELTIBERIAN,2
    VIKING-EAST,0.8
    PRE-VIKING,0.6

    IBERIAN,0.4
    LEVANTINE,0.4
    TARTESSIAN,0.4
    BALTIC,0.2
    LUSITANIAN,0.2


    I'm not at all sure about the Longobard.


    With Poi's free form runner-


    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G",
    "fit": 0.9049,
    "CELTIC_England_Roman": 33,
    "GERMANIC_England_Anglo-Saxon": 26.2,
    "LONGOBARD__ITA_Collegno_MA": 20.2,
    "VIKING_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 5.2,
    "CELTIC_England_IA": 4.6,
    "VIKING-WEST_Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 3.6,
    "VIKING-WEST_FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o": 2.4,

    "CELTIBERIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES": 2,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_North_IA": 0.8,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL": 0.6,
    "GERMANIC_Germany_Medieval": 0.4,
    "LUSITANIAN_Iberia_East_IA": 0.4,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1": 0.2,
    "IBERIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE": 0.2,
    "SOUTH-AMERICAN_PER_Laramate_900BP": 0.2,
    "ALANIC_RUS_Alan_MA": 0,
    "ANATOLIAN_Anatolia_IA": 0,
    "ANDAMAN_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_RomP": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Levant_LBN_MA_Euro": 0,
    "ARIAN_PAK_Swat_Butkara_IA": 0,
    "BALTIC-INGRIA_RUS_Ingria_IA": 0,
    "BALTIC_Baltic_EST_MA": 0,
    "BALTIC_Baltic_LTU_LateA": 0,
    "CANARIAN_Canary_Islands_Guanche": 0,
    "CELTIC_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1": 0,
    "DRAVIDIAN_Saidu_Sharif_IA_o": 0,
    "EGYPT_Egypt_Hellenistic": 0,
    "GERMANIC_Germany_Medieval_ACD": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_DEU_MA_o": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Italy_Medieval_Collegno": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1": 0,
    "HIMALAYAN_NPL_Samdzong_1500BP": 0,
    "HUNNIC_Hun_Tian_Shan": 0,
    "IBERIAN_Germany_Roman": 0,
    "IBERIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Balkans_IA": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Scythian_Moldova": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN__Germany_Medieval_ACD": 0,
    "INGRIA_RUS_Ingria_IA": 0,
    "JAPANESE_Jomon": 0,
    "KANGJU_KAZ_Kangju": 0,
    "LEVANTINE_Eng_Rom_Near_Eastern_o": 0,
    "LEVANTINE_Levant_LBN_MA_NE": 0,
    "LEVANTINE_Levant_LBN_Roman": 0,
    "LONGOBARD_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 0,
    "MONGOLIAN_KAZ_Nomad_HP": 0,
    "NORTH_AMERICAN_USA_NM_Chaco": 0,
    "NORTH_URALIC_Levanluhta_IA": 0,
    "OTTOMAN_Anatolia_Ottoman": 0,
    "PACIFIC_VUT_1300BP_all": 0,
    "PRE-VIKING_SWE_IA": 0,
    "SLAVIC_Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 0,
    "SLAVIC_CZE_Early_Slav": 0,
    "SLAVIC_Sunghir_Medieval": 0,
    "SOUTHEAST-AFRICAN_KEN_Pastoral_N": 0,
    "SOUTHEAST-ASIAN_Thailand_IA": 0,
    "SOUTH_AFRICAN_ZAF_2000BP": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE": 0,
    "VIKING-EAST_Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 0,
    "VIKING-FINNIC_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 0,
    "VIKING-PRUSSIAN_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 0,
    "VISIGOTH_Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL": 0,


    "sample": "Test1:Tim_G_father",
    "fit": 0.6722,
    "CELTIC_England_Roman": 37,
    "LONGOBARD__ITA_Collegno_MA": 27.2,
    "VIKING_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 13.6,
    "GERMANIC_Germany_Medieval": 4,
    "LONGOBARD_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 3.8,
    "GERMANIC_England_Anglo-Saxon": 2.8,
    "VIKING-WEST_Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 2.8,
    "CELTIBERIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES": 2.6,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_North_IA": 1.6,
    "VIKING-WEST_FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o": 1.4,
    "VIKING-EAST_Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 1
    ,
    "IBERIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE": 0.6,
    "LEVANTINE_Levant_LBN_Roman": 0.4,
    "LUSITANIAN_Iberia_East_IA": 0.4,
    "CANARIAN_Canary_Islands_Guanche": 0.2,
    "CELTIC_England_IA": 0.2,
    "EGYPT_Egypt_Hellenistic": 0.2,
    "LEVANTINE_Levant_LBN_MA_NE": 0.2,
    "ALANIC_RUS_Alan_MA": 0,
    "ANATOLIAN_Anatolia_IA": 0,
    "ANDAMAN_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_RomP": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL": 0,
    "AQUITANIAN_Levant_LBN_MA_Euro": 0,
    "ARIAN_PAK_Swat_Butkara_IA": 0,
    "BALTIC-INGRIA_RUS_Ingria_IA": 0,
    "BALTIC_Baltic_EST_MA": 0,
    "BALTIC_Baltic_LTU_LateA": 0,
    "CELTIC_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1": 0,
    "DRAVIDIAN_Saidu_Sharif_IA_o": 0,
    "GERMANIC_Germany_Medieval_ACD": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_DEU_MA_o": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Italy_Medieval_Collegno": 0,
    "GRECO-ROMAN_Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1": 0,
    "HIMALAYAN_NPL_Samdzong_1500BP": 0,
    "HUNNIC_Hun_Tian_Shan": 0,
    "IBERIAN_Germany_Roman": 0,
    "IBERIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Balkans_IA": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN_Scythian_Moldova": 0,
    "ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN__Germany_Medieval_ACD": 0,
    "INGRIA_RUS_Ingria_IA": 0,
    "JAPANESE_Jomon": 0,
    "KANGJU_KAZ_Kangju": 0,
    "LEVANTINE_Eng_Rom_Near_Eastern_o": 0,
    "MONGOLIAN_KAZ_Nomad_HP": 0,
    "NORTH_AMERICAN_USA_NM_Chaco": 0,
    "NORTH_URALIC_Levanluhta_IA": 0,
    "OTTOMAN_Anatolia_Ottoman": 0,
    "PACIFIC_VUT_1300BP_all": 0,
    "PRE-VIKING_SWE_IA": 0,
    "SLAVIC_Avar_Hungary_Szolad": 0,
    "SLAVIC_CZE_Early_Slav": 0,
    "SLAVIC_Sunghir_Medieval": 0,
    "SOUTH-AMERICAN_PER_Laramate_900BP": 0,
    "SOUTHEAST-AFRICAN_KEN_Pastoral_N": 0,
    "SOUTHEAST-ASIAN_Thailand_IA": 0,
    "SOUTH_AFRICAN_ZAF_2000BP": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE": 0,
    "TARTESSIAN_Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE": 0,
    "VIKING-FINNIC_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 0,
    "VIKING-PRUSSIAN_SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 0,
    "VISIGOTH_Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL": 0,
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    Longobards are some mix of Scandinavians and populations which Longobards encountered going to Pannonia and North Italy. For my calc I used only very northern shifted Longobards.
    But Anglo-Saxons and other Germanics are very similar to Longobards, so you will never know how much of your ancestry is Anglo-Saxon, and how much Norman.
    Vikings had some Finnic and Balto-Slavic admixture and this can give you some clue how much Viking ancestry you have.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    Longobards are some mix of Scandinavians and populations which Longobards encountered going to Pannonia and North Italy. For my calc I used only very northern shifted Longobards.
    But Anglo-Saxons and other Germanics are very similar to Longobards, so you will never know how much of your ancestry is Anglo-Saxon, and how much Norman.
    Vikings had some Finnic and Balto-Slavic admixture and this can give you some clue how much Viking ancestry you have.
    Well as I don't score any Finnic or Balto-Slavic on your calculator I guess that any Viking I've got is a false positive.
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    I tried your calculator even though it is not aimed for native Portugueses, just for fun. Here is what we got:


    [1] "distance%=3.176"

    Father_Lusitano_scaled

    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL94,51.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL23,26.2
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_310,9.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL121,4.4
    DEU_MA_STR_480,3.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL87,2
    DEU_MA_ACD_AED_1108,1.4
    England_Saxon_I0777,1
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.6
    England_Saxon_I0161,0.6

    [1] "distance%=3.3453"

    Lusitano_scaled

    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL23,58.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL94,26.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL57,7.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL121,4.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL92,0.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL87,0.4
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna_vik_grt035,0.4
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355,0.2
    DEU_MA_NW_255,0.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL84,0.2

    [1] "distance%=4.6881"

    Trebaruna_scaled

    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL94,69.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL87,14.4
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL121,6.4
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_310,4.2
    DEU_MA_ACD_STR_355,3.2
    DEU_MA_ACD_AED_1108,1.2
    ITA_Collegno_MA_CL23,1
    DEU_MA_o_STR_300,0.2
    R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866

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    Not sure our calculators are particularly good at this, to be honest, there was and still is a lot of DNA in common in west/north/central Europe that makes these sort of distinctions hard to spot with our tools like G25. Perhaps a model built with the CvG PCA would be better? At least that's what that was in meant for. If I recall correctly ph2ter had one
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    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>E-Y134097>E-Y168273 (probably Scythian-Sarmatian). Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
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    [1] "distance%=1.7726"

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    Celtiberian,77.6
    Roman_Imperial_proxy,13.6
    Guanche,8.8

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