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    Need some help

    Hello. I have results from 23 and Family Tree and have uploaded results to GedMatch. I also have my Global 25 coordinates. I learned after my mom's death 5 years ago, that her father was Jewish. I have the original document showing his name change in 1927. There is a good paper trail back to his grandparents who were Jewish and I have visited the Jewish cemetery where they are buried. But my DNA results do not show any Ashkenazi DNA. Nothing shows up. How can that be? I don't know who to ask and someone suggested Anthrogenica. I would really, really appreciate some assistance. Thanks very much. I would like to find out more about this part of my family and there are no surviving relatives to ask.

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    There are people much better qualified to speak than me, but no one's yet replied so I'll kick things off. I'd be surprised that 23andme didn't assign you any Ashkenazi if you really had a Jewish grandparent. What the reason behind this might be I could only surmise. Any other clues?
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    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbird57 View Post
    Hello. I have results from 23 and Family Tree and have uploaded results to GedMatch. I also have my Global 25 coordinates. I learned after my mom's death 5 years ago, that her father was Jewish. I have the original document showing his name change in 1927. There is a good paper trail back to his grandparents who were Jewish and I have visited the Jewish cemetery where they are buried. But my DNA results do not show any Ashkenazi DNA. Nothing shows up. How can that be? I don't know who to ask and someone suggested Anthrogenica. I would really, really appreciate some assistance. Thanks very much. I would like to find out more about this part of my family and there are no surviving relatives to ask.
    Where was his family from? Were all of his grandparents Jewish?

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    Just thinking: perhaps if you post your G25 coordinates someone might run them for an additional opinion.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Post them in this thread? Thanks for responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbird57 View Post
    Post them in this thread? Thanks for responding.
    Yes, if you don't mind it being public. Otherwise ask here if anyone would be willing to run them and you could then PM them.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    With a Jewish GF you will have thousands of Jewish matches...and 23andme is pretty good at detecting this ancestry.

    Log in to 23andme, then Ancestry-->All Reports--->Your DNA Family . Check out the % of your matches who have Jewish ancestry.

    And then there is a possibility of course that you grandfather was adopted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbird57 View Post
    Post them in this thread? Thanks for responding.
    If you do decide to post them, you can always edit out your name if it’s included.

    For example, here are mine with my name removed and my screen name inserted:

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    JMcB_scaled,0.132035,0.140143,0.065996,0.0400,0.04 0931,0.015339,0.005875,0.005307,0.009817,0.009841, 0.000162,0.00015,-0.016204,-0.012661,0.013436,0.003182,-0.006128,0.002534,0.006536,0.002001,0.009608,0.002 72,0.001109,0.00614,-0.00047
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    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    FT Big Y: I1-Z140 branch I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 830 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 975 AD) >A13243/YSEQ (circa 1550 AD).

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    My gg grandfather immigrated from Prussia in 1860. My research shows that his father witnessed his other son's wedding in Berlin at about that same time. I base the assumption that it was family on the following; before my grandfather changed his name it was Leopold Cohnheim. HIs father was Conrad Cohnheim. His father (whose grave I visited) was Leopold Cohnheim and the man I'm guessing was his father and witnessed the wedding in Berlin was also Conrad Cohnheim.
    My grandfather's mother was not Jewish although both of his grandparents were. Thanks for your interest.

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    I will do that. THANKS

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